Do you mean the same guys who sent the army to here in pa. to collect shine taxes? Led by G. Washington?

Nahh, they wouldn't do that.

Pay your taxes/rent or end up like the Bundys'. Simple as that. Always has been and always will be this way.
Bundys are free-loaders

what? end up like the bundys?.....didn't the bundys walk? what about all the ranchers that paid there fees and lost there livelihood that are now( forced by out the blm) out of business lol..the hammonds sitting in jail. that's is what I have been posting on! the bundys are the only ones in that area that are still in business so I guess not quite that simple!

I don’t know if any of you bickerers are interested, but here’s a link to some very comprehensive data regarding the dismissal. It includes more links to actual documents, like the reports of BLM whistleblowers. Dismissing the charges had nothing to do with the original charges; it was based on the unbelievably corrupt behavior by the BLM, investigators and prosecution. They (the feds) cornered themselves in so many lies under oath, on record that dismissal/mistrial was pretty much the only option.

https://getpublished.pro/blogs/news/dan-love-now-a-whistle-blower

Those grazing fees are supposed to be used to maintain fences, water etc. BLM not only didn't maintain water and fences they tore out water lines. They also cut the number of head he could run. By 90%. Not because the pasture was overgrazed but because they wanted him out of business. They couldn't legally take his grazing rights so they refused to do maintaince and cut the number of head. His neighbors all just took it and left.

It wasn't really government interference even though the Feds refused to do anything, It was corruption by Harry Reid and the BLM manager. Reid expected to profit off running the ranchers out of business by crawling into bed with a Chinese solar company.

those of you anti Bundys what would you guys have done in there shoes?

They were first found guilty 20 years ago of owing this money. Most of you are reading what the gov't did since then to evict him from the land.

hippie there is a reason he stopped paying. the blm wasn't keeping there end of the bargain. so why should he?

Must be a different case your talking about.

If i remember this correctly from the last time this was hashed out here...........

The feds declared some fer turtle needed protected and started buying leases back from ranchers in the area. Bundy wouldn't sell and stopped paying grazing fees, declaring he didn't acknoledge the feds existed. This was in the late 80's early 90's?

At that time, this was his only defense he put forward. All these other accusations came after the trial he lost and owed back grazing fees.

Either way, we are not gonna change each others mind, so happy trails.

All that for a million bucks in grazing fees huh?

Mike

I never understood this defense yes he has said that his family has been ranching in that area since the Spanish was there before it was part of the USA, and it was taken from his family if that defense holds up then you might as well give the land back to the Native American's there were hear long before anyone else was and we took pretty much the whole continent from them. Just my two cents

WE didn't take a thing from the first immigrants to N America . The people who are actively putting livestock producers out of business are still alive though.

all under the pretense of the law. or should I say above the law?