No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
OT: Stabill fuel treatment #6121131
01/11/18 01:07 AM
01/11/18 01:07 AM
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 3,928
NY
Canvasback2 Offline OP
trapper
Canvasback2  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 3,928
NY
Found out there is 2 different kinds, at least, that is what I have seen in the stores. Bought the Stabil 360 the other day, and put it in the lawn tractor this Afternoon. Ran the tractor for about 10 minutes. One bottle was supposed to treat 20 gallons of gas. 2 gallon tank on the tractor . 4 Gallons in the gas can. I put half the bottle in the gas tank on the tractor and the other half went in the gas can. Ran the tractor for 10 minutes , then put it back in the shed till Spring.

Is the 360 as good as the regular Stabil ? I was able to buy enthanol free Gas . Hard to find around here.

Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: Canvasback2] #6121138
01/11/18 01:23 AM
01/11/18 01:23 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,201
Alaska and Washington State
W
waggler Offline
trapper
waggler  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,201
Alaska and Washington State
I think the 360 is advertised as keeping the gas fresh for 12 months. I don't know how long the regular Stabil is supposed to keep gas fresh, but I have great success using the regular Stabil for 10 months of storage.


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: Canvasback2] #6121175
01/11/18 02:50 AM
01/11/18 02:50 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,421
Yukon
Y
yukon254 Offline
trapper
yukon254  Offline
trapper
Y

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,421
Yukon
I've used both and prefer the 360 when I can find it. Every engine at the fishing lodge gets it before being put away for the season, and the jet drives get it in every tank.


do unto others as you would have them do unto you

www.grizzlycreeklodge.com
Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: Canvasback2] #6121178
01/11/18 02:55 AM
01/11/18 02:55 AM
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,174
IL - Shawnee Ntl Forest
ShawneeMan Offline
trapper
ShawneeMan  Offline
trapper

Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,174
IL - Shawnee Ntl Forest
Use the regular on my tiller, lawn mower, tractor and motorcycle...
Never have an issue in the spring when we put out the garden - good stuff.


Shawnee National Forest - We live out here because we're not all there.
http://www.ripcordassociation.com
101 Pathfinder Det / Vietnam 1969 - 1971
Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: Canvasback2] #6121239
01/11/18 08:10 AM
01/11/18 08:10 AM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 9,313
Northern MN
O
Osky Offline
trapper
Osky  Offline
trapper
O

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 9,313
Northern MN
I use either up here.
I think it's more important to use non oxygenated fuel which you have. You will be fine.

Osky


"A womans heart is the hardest rock the Almighty has put on this earth, and I can find no sign on it"

Jabless in Minnesota

www.SureDockusa.com
Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: Canvasback2] #6121259
01/11/18 08:50 AM
01/11/18 08:50 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 9,664
se SD
rags57078 Offline
Humorist
rags57078  Offline
Humorist

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 9,664
se SD
The marine and atv shops in this area use seafoam so that's what I use


Off in my own world

Fish on !!!!!!!



47 years in this game of trapping
Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: Canvasback2] #6121288
01/11/18 09:26 AM
01/11/18 09:26 AM
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 16,150
Tennessee
Scuba1 Offline
"color blind Kraut"
Scuba1  Offline
"color blind Kraut"

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 16,150
Tennessee
If you got ethanol free gas, you do not need to put Stabil of any sort in it. Its the ethanol that causes the problem that Stabil is made to cure.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: Canvasback2] #6121379
01/11/18 10:59 AM
01/11/18 10:59 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,550
coastal ny
G
gcs Offline
trapper
gcs  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,550
coastal ny
The 360 is for ethanol treated gas,

Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: Canvasback2] #6121385
01/11/18 11:06 AM
01/11/18 11:06 AM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 9,313
Northern MN
O
Osky Offline
trapper
Osky  Offline
trapper
O

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 9,313
Northern MN
I have used sea foam in the atv's at my place and have not liked the results. My carbs get a gummy build up. Not sure why, so I use
Stabil in all small engines, atv's, snowgos, mowers, chainsaws, boats, generators, and all else.

Osky


"A womans heart is the hardest rock the Almighty has put on this earth, and I can find no sign on it"

Jabless in Minnesota

www.SureDockusa.com
Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: Scuba1] #6121651
01/11/18 03:55 PM
01/11/18 03:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,201
Alaska and Washington State
W
waggler Offline
trapper
waggler  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,201
Alaska and Washington State
Originally Posted By: Scuba1
If you got ethanol free gas, you do not need to put Stabil of any sort in it. Its the ethanol that causes the problem that Stabil is made to cure.


I'll disagree with you a bit. While I'm a great advocate for ethanol free gas (I use it in all my small engines), pure gas will still produce varnishing problems when stored for long periods of time. I believe that Stabil has been around a lot longer than ethanol gas.


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: Canvasback2] #6121659
01/11/18 04:07 PM
01/11/18 04:07 PM
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 786
Illinois Livingston county
wwc Offline
trapper
wwc  Offline
trapper

Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 786
Illinois Livingston county
Omc makes a product called 2+4 for boat engines or any other, works better then all the rest I have tried.


Your money is not worth my sanity
Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: waggler] #6121662
01/11/18 04:12 PM
01/11/18 04:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,697
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
T
Trapper7 Offline
trapper
Trapper7  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,697
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
Originally Posted By: waggler
Originally Posted By: Scuba1
If you got ethanol free gas, you do not need to put Stabil of any sort in it. Its the ethanol that causes the problem that Stabil is made to cure.


I'll disagree with you a bit. While I'm a great advocate for ethanol free gas (I use it in all my small engines), pure gas will still produce varnishing problems when stored for long periods of time. I believe that Stabil has been around a lot longer than ethanol gas.


I agree with you about that. I never use anything but ethanol-free gas in my ATV, snow blower, snowmobile, etc. I didn't put any additives in my snow blower last spring. It wouldn't start this winter. The carb was all gummed up. I will be either running the carb dry this spring or putting it away with Stabil.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: Canvasback2] #6121773
01/11/18 06:34 PM
01/11/18 06:34 PM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 5,510
West Central MN
20scout Offline
trapper
20scout  Offline
trapper

Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 5,510
West Central MN
Been helping out on and off for a local guy who does marine and small engine works. He has been using a product called Startron for a few years and have to admit that after using it myself won't go back to anything else. If I recall correctly, one large bottle 10-12 oz does something like 300 gallons. Good for both ethanol or non-ethanol gas.


Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.
Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: 20scout] #6123451
01/13/18 11:14 AM
01/13/18 11:14 AM
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,785
Northern lower Michigan
Feedinggrounds Offline
trapper
Feedinggrounds  Offline
trapper

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,785
Northern lower Michigan
Originally Posted By: 20scout
Been helping out on and off for a local guy who does marine and small engine works. He has been using a product called Startron for a few years and have to admit that after using it myself won't go back to anything else. If I recall correctly, one large bottle 10-12 oz does something like 300 gallons. Good for both ethanol or non-ethanol gas.
If I use anything it is STARTRON it is a enzyme and works very well for a long time.


you're only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: Canvasback2] #6123480
01/13/18 11:40 AM
01/13/18 11:40 AM
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,599
NH
T
trapNH Offline
trapper
trapNH  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,599
NH
I use hi test gas in all my small engines, and treat it with startron. Use to use stabil and had a problem, went to startron and no more problems.

Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: Canvasback2] #6123527
01/13/18 12:29 PM
01/13/18 12:29 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 187
MN
G
gary j Offline
trapper
gary j  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 187
MN
I use non-oxygenated gas in all my small engines, ATV , outboard, snowblower, chain saw etc. Non ethonol gas is different. The non-oxygenated is sold in Mn only for use in non highway engines. I don't add anything to the gas tank from season to season and have NEVER had any carb or fuel injector issues. My boat gas has sat for 18 months once and fired right up and ran great. My snowblower is about 10 years old and runs great with whatever gas is in it from previous season. I am very particular about not storing gas outside in the rain.

Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: trapNH] #6123545
01/13/18 12:48 PM
01/13/18 12:48 PM
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,785
Northern lower Michigan
Feedinggrounds Offline
trapper
Feedinggrounds  Offline
trapper

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,785
Northern lower Michigan
I think higher octane burns slower by design to prevent spark knock. I get better starting using 89 octane than the premium. But the 89 octane is rec gas with no alcohol at all, and I still use startron as I never know how long something will sit.


you're only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: Canvasback2] #6123556
01/13/18 01:15 PM
01/13/18 01:15 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 187
MN
G
gary j Offline
trapper
gary j  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 187
MN
non-oxygenated gas is 91 octane

Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: gary j] #6123798
01/13/18 06:20 PM
01/13/18 06:20 PM
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,785
Northern lower Michigan
Feedinggrounds Offline
trapper
Feedinggrounds  Offline
trapper

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,785
Northern lower Michigan
Originally Posted By: gary j
non-oxygenated gas is 91 octane
The rec gas I buy is certified as 89 octane, straight gas no ethenol.


you're only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
Re: OT: Stabill fuel treatment [Re: Feedinggrounds] #6123825
01/13/18 06:49 PM
01/13/18 06:49 PM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,548
Cleveland IL
muddyriverdogz Offline
trapper
muddyriverdogz  Offline
trapper

Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,548
Cleveland IL
Originally Posted By: Feedinggrounds
I think higher octane burns slower by design to prevent spark knock. I get better starting using 89 octane than the premium. But the 89 octane is rec gas with no alcohol at all, and I still use startron as I never know how long something will sit.


The short answer is that octane is the measure of how much compression a fuel can withstand before igniting. Meaning in what position the piston will be when the fuel ignites.If it's to far forward or backward top dead center you will get a knock.

This is why you always use the recommended octane rating from your vehicles manufacturer. Anything else will not be good for your engine or get you better gas mileage as some believe.

Another reason to stay away from high performance engines that require high octane fuel that cost more because less is produced. It's not that the fuel is any better just that it fires at a different compression.

PS never use an octane booster if you put in the right octane in the first place.

Last edited by muddyriverdogz; 01/13/18 07:14 PM.

You only live once, so get over it!

Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread