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muzzle loading #6125856
01/15/18 09:24 AM
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I am getting into some older muzzle loading and am hoping to start doing some target shooting this spring and summer. I have a line on a couple of older small caliber guns that I will hopefully get bought soon. I am looking for groups near central Indiana that may host shoots and have a range. And also looking for any T-Man members in my area that may be involved. I have shot some side lock cap and ball and hunt with in line guns but am looking to really do a lot more primitive shooting.

Thanks for any replies

Re: muzzle loading [Re: RHuff] #6125865
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the National Muzzle loading Rifle Association is based out of Friendship Indiana and they host a lot of shoots.

otherwise it is primarily Rondy and club level shoots that I have seen


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Re: muzzle loading [Re: RHuff] #6125877
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Your thinking right. I started shooting flint years ago and haven't looked back. I use the Log Cabin Shop up in Lodi Ohio for supplies and even a lil knowledge (don't know anyone other flinters). Yes there are many groups in Indiana to get a leg up. After a lot of trial and error the key is to consistently load and prime the same way as exact as possible. Gettin started I simply called Log Cabin shop on the phone and asked for help, they are delightful. Good luck and for gosh sakes keep your powder dry.

Re: muzzle loading [Re: RHuff] #6125950
01/15/18 10:52 AM
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Smoke and Fire News is a good resource for event listings.

Re: muzzle loading [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6126032
01/15/18 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE
the National Muzzle loading Rifle Association is based out of Friendship Indiana and they host a lot of shoots.


This^^^

And concerning flintlocks, if you choose to go in that direction...

There are a lot of production flintlock firearms. Most are serviceable. But generally the more you pay for a flintlock, the better the quality.

Of course there is a point when you are paying more for form than function... Fancy carving, silver wire inlays, and highly figured maple stocks don't make for a better shooting gun. But a quality well-tuned lock fitted in conjunction with a quality barrel will set you back a little bit of coin.

Mike


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Re: muzzle loading [Re: RHuff] #6126171
01/15/18 03:02 PM
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Rhuff, I am in Linton IN about 2 hours southwest of Tipton. We have a traditional muzzleloading club here called Buck Creek Muzzleloaders. Many of the guys even build guns including flintlocks. My dad started the club in 1976 and it has been going since. Buck Creek is a charter club of the National Muzzleloading Rifle Association and has a monthly shoot here in Linton. The guys there have a passion for the sport and could help you with anything related to it. They would also be very glad to do it. Because I rarely post I am not in the habit of checking my PMís so if you are interested in phone numbers, shoot dates,directions etc. PM me but you may have to post here again to remind me to check them. I think one of the club members wives setup a Facebook page for the club but not sure because I donít Facebook. Hope to chat with you sometime.


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Re: muzzle loading [Re: RHuff] #6126259
01/15/18 04:28 PM
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Pay more attention to the twist of the barrel than how pretty it is or you'll be throwing knuckle-balls.

Round balls need a slow twist and faster for conical bullets,
Figure out the bullet you want to shoot and get a barrel to match.

Have fun, best shooting there is IMO.

Re: muzzle loading [Re: RHuff] #6126265
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Find a used T/C Hawken or Renegade with a 1:48" twist and you can throw patched round balls or minie-balls down range all day. loads of fun and as addicting as trapping!


Thank you!

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Re: muzzle loading [Re: RHuff] #6126398
01/15/18 06:28 PM
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If your shooting true black powder, stay away from petroleum oils, solvents, etc. The fowling turns into a tar like nightmare. Clean with hot water and soap like felsnaptha and treat it like a cast iron pan. the more you shoot it and keep it clean the more the barrel will become seasoned. more shots between cleanings, and easer reloading after shots. I use only t/c borebutter for patches and seasoning the barrel. I can shoot about 45 rounds before I have to use a spit patch for range cleaning. I'm shooting a CVA St. Luois Hawken in 50 cal. 1:48 twist. Also have a 54 cal barrel for it. Was a build it yourself kit I bought and built in the early 90's. 1 inch 3 shot groups at 75 yards with open sights.

Re: muzzle loading [Re: RHuff] #6126408
01/15/18 06:34 PM
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If you really want to get into it attend the Dixon Muzzleloader Gunmakers Fair in Kempton Pa. itís in July and a huge event with thousands attending and some of the finest gunmakers in the country attending and demos.
For the most part if using patched round balls for 50 Cal get a 1-60 or 1-66 twist. Conical usually work well in 1-48. Some barrels will still shoot round balls pretty well in them but you may have to experiment with patch thickness and powder charge.
They are fun to shoot, but be prepared for the cleaning!


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Re: muzzle loading [Re: RHuff] #6126432
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Some rock lock porn for yah......Being that your in Indiana.....you should be able to find some primitive shoots for sure


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You want a true primitive gun...get yah a Smoothbore flinter ...this one is 62 cal....you can load it as a shot gun....or a patched round ball.....real fun to shoot


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These guns are built by David Price...he is about 45 minutes north of me ....I've been to his shop....He is always at gun maker hall at the Friendship Indiana shoot.....would love to own one of his swivel breech flinters....but way out of my league


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Re: muzzle loading [Re: RHuff] #6126490
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Really appreciate advice and love the pics. Starting out with caplocks this year and if I really enjoy it as much as I think I will then a flinter next year. Really wanting to start out hunting some small game so looking at a 32 and a 36 right now. Been shooting an old 45 CVA Kentucky rifle this fall that I gave around 50 dollars for at a garage sale. It had a little rust in the barrel and needs a couple parts replaced but at 50 yards I can shoot about an inch and a half group consistently and now I am spending most of my time shooting it and less time with my other guns.

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36 is a sweet cal.....cheap to make round balls.....and 40 grains of FFF to make it bark....


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Re: muzzle loading [Re: RHuff] #6126522
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Connor longrifles antique arms show in Noblesville should be your next step. A lot of high end stuff but worth it to see what's out there.
Seem to recall that Tipton has a gun show also. A place called Deer Creek Products bought all the old CVA parts and they are also in Indiana.
Spring and fall shoot at Friendship, as was mentioned, is the holy grail of muzzleloading. You are in the right place, so get at it ! wink

Re: muzzle loading [Re: RHuff] #6126534
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I usually make my own balls, but usually buy 000 buckshot, it's ~0.35. I use a 0.010 Teflon patch. It has been a good combo.

Re: muzzle loading [Re: RHuff] #6127477
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Going to look into the shoots at friendship are there vendors or tailgaters there. Wont be competing this year just want to go and see how everything works. Thanks coonlove for the advise on Deer Creek that will help with my old CVA.

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It's been years since I was at Friendship, but yes, there are many vendors there and you don't have to compete. Basically anybody even remotely connected with traditional shooting and living history will be there to show their wares. Registered shooters used to be able to buy Goex out of their underground powder magazine, for 2 bucks a pound................Wow ! I am that old !

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36 cal is a squirrel rifle, not legal in most states for deer. The smallest you are likely to find is a .32. Fun to shoot but a bugger to clean. Only good for squirrel and then only if you make a head shot. If you have to make a head shot then caliber doesn't matter so much, so get something you can hunt something other than squirrel with. Check your regs and get something that you can hunt deer with. Most will be .40 or .45. I am a fan of the .50 but also have a .62 rifle and shoot both regularly.

Most club or rendezvous shoots will be reactive targets. That means you have to move a steel target to confirm a hit and a .32 or .36 won't do it consistently. Man up and get a real gun, you don't have to put a lot of powder in it and punish yourself to be effective.

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