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illegal immigrants #6131782
01/20/18 09:58 AM
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Can someone tell me why people fight for something that is illegal. This country is so backwards you can break laws like this and a small insufficient law gets broke the person has to pay the price and that is the way it should be. It is a law and illegal immigrants are breaking the law so the high powers don't care the law is being broken and fight for something illegal.

Doesn't make sense to me why these people can get away with this and really nothing done about it. I'm not saying they shouldn't be here but they need to go through all the protocol then to be an US citizen. The laws need to be changed so it is legal for them to be here. So what is the problem with this problem it is our gobermint.


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Re: illegal immigrants [Re: snowy] #6131821
01/20/18 10:43 AM
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Because whoever gets them legal status also gets their votes. We're talking about potentially tens of millions of votes that would be nearly GUARANTEED for the Dems and that can swing an election and MANY elections to come in the future.
Hence why the Republicans can't let it happen.

Get rid of illegals, Republicans will crush the Dems, and the opposite is also true. If you give every illegal a legal status, then the Dems will dominate for a long time

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Re: illegal immigrants [Re: snowy] #6131828
01/20/18 10:49 AM
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I have no problem making it easier for the guy who wants to work and feed his kids to come here legally. I have a big problem with the people who chose to ignore existing law getting a free ride. I say D's ought to have changed the law when they had the majority. They chose not to. So quit whining and enforce the law as it stands.


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Re: illegal immigrants [Re: snowy] #6131843
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Well said Danny, they had their shot.

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Re: illegal immigrants [Re: snowy] #6131844
01/20/18 11:20 AM
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Re: illegal immigrants [Re: snowy] #6131847
01/20/18 11:26 AM
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Cheap labor is the reason it is ignored

Re: illegal immigrants [Re: snowy] #6131851
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Well said and very true statements if you like it or not IMO. It is political BS from both sides they both want a resolution but not really when it comes down to it. It comes to I'm the good group you are the bad group and the lying starts.


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Re: illegal immigrants [Re: snowy] #6131871
01/20/18 11:51 AM
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Our government is failing the American people. They have created the mess we are in by their tactics and purposely working against each other.

The news channels and big newspapers are democratic controlled that no matter what will twist the story to bad mouth replubicans to mislead the people.

I am all for the government shutdown and even a collapse of our dysfunctional government. The direction we were headed was destroying our country.

Re: illegal immigrants [Re: snowy] #6131919
01/20/18 12:40 PM
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The corrupt pay for play media is what has driven most of the division in our country. Their bias reporting has infected much of the country that doesn't think much for themselves and believe what is preached to them by the media that they choose to listen to.

If the immigration can be controlled and the drug flow minimized we would have a much better country for all. But since those that get the kick backs don't find it in their interests we all have to live with this mess.

If we can get term limits and we can stay strong long enough we can turn things around. As long as we allow career politicians things wont change much.

Career politicians have learned the merits of staying in office and it isn't for the benefit of the people.

Re: illegal immigrants [Re: snowy] #6131926
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Shumer proves why implementing term limits might be a good thing. Dang he annoys me.

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Re: illegal immigrants [Re: danvee] #6131955
01/20/18 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: danvee
Cheap labor is the reason it is ignored


But, what should be looked at, and not turned a blind eye is the illegal community collecting welfare money, Medicare benefits etc......

An illegal couple that have a child on US soil can claim welfare benefits for their now legal citizen child.
I'm sorry but an illegal + an illegal does not = a legal


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When little dickey durbin testified in congress with 2 illegals that were attending universities to become doctors at his side I wondered how much their education cost the American tax payer (you and me). He put the illegals before our own people. I am sure that there are more inner city young Americans that would like a break like the illegals get.

Re: illegal immigrants [Re: snowy] #6131969
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Re: illegal immigrants [Re: snowy] #6131976
01/20/18 01:37 PM
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The left needs new voters...thats it in a nutshell. They could care less about the wellbeing of anyone or they would take care of their own citizens first.....you would have to have an IQ 2 points below plant life to not see it.....


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Re: illegal immigrants [Re: snowy] #6132013
01/20/18 02:03 PM
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Pasadena, they are getting food aid whether their kids are born here or not. You can't find an English speaking person in the Texas offices where they apply for WIC and Lome Star Card all funded through USDA money. Their kids don't speak english and have become so voluminous that school districts are building new schools which are Spanish speaking as the primary language and english the second language. Several years back, English speaking, college educated certified teachers were let go by tons of school districts down here to hire non college educated Spanish speaking and predominantly illegals to teach in these Spanish first language schools.

Re: illegal immigrants [Re: snowy] #6132023
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Then add to this, they are mooching healthcare via medicaid and Medicare, free school lunches and not to mention the new schools which come from our property taxes. Now let's compound it another step further, they are also getting HUD assistance. Those Dems and Republicans who have continued to allow this for decades should be hanged by their feet and we should get to beat them to death. Publicly so that the rest can see that we the people have had enough. It is time for all of the BS sticking our heads in the sand to be over with. Nothing short of us taking back the power which belongs to us and not those elected. There is nothing at this point, short of a revolution or straight up civil war that is going to change the tide and then we go back to the Constitution in it's original intent as was the purpose of our founding fathers.

The black man that is now a state legislator in Mo. Made a profound comment the other day while being interviewed on Fox. Je won't recite the pledge because there is no justice for all. Those at the top who are career crooks in politician clothes can wantonly violate law after law after law and they get away with it and have for decades. Yet those of us who vote are held to a different standard because we have become lesser than those chosen to represent us. I don't agree with all of this mans ideologies but he hit the nail on the head as to why he raises a fist and doesn't recite the pledge.

Re: illegal immigrants [Re: snowy] #6132052
01/20/18 02:48 PM
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When I grew up I had Mexican friends. They spoke english, did pledge of elegance to flag and served our country in the military! It didn't make a difference to me about their legal status because they simulated.

I was in the doctors office the other hay and there was a Mexican girl probably in her 20's. There was a no cell phone sign no more than 6' away. She was talking on her cell phone the whole time I was waiting and was speaking loudly in Spanish frown

IMO if you want to come here legally, speak english and shut your cell phone off smile I will welcome you!

Re: illegal immigrants [Re: ] #6132063
01/20/18 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: Oh Snap
When I grew up I had Mexican friends. They spoke english, did pledge of elegance to flag and served our country in the military! It didn't make a difference to me about their legal status because they simulated.

I was in the doctors office the other hay and there was a Mexican girl probably in her 20's. There was a no cell phone sign no more than 6' away. She was talking on her cell phone the whole time I was waiting and was speaking loudly in Spanish frown

IMO if you want to come here legally, speak english and shut your cell phone off smile I will welcome you!


Same problem here but it's Slavs.

I'd take 100 Hispanics over 100 Slavs any day. Even street signs are in Polish.

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Its a good thing Obama is not in office any more or the Slavs would be living in your home! That would have come next.

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