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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Boone Liane] #6133167
01/21/18 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: Boone Liane
Lots of guys also fail to recognize that a cat, fox, or coyotes normal line of sight is only 18-24” off the ground.

You almost got to get on your hands and knees to see things from their perspective.


And bang on!

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6133225
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I like it..The less they see the better.. Nice job Wolfdog..

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6136712
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So with new info that's been presented apparently k-9's at least do see some color so I went took load more pictures with more snares. Now please work with me here because I'm doing this all on a phone so igotta crop and post the color pictures then reedit to black and white then red edit those to the new filter so we can see everything so just work with me

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6136732
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Ok so here's what we're working with from left to right is a untreated snare,fadded snare,fadded and painted and painted snare and a dipped snare. All 1x19 5/64ths cable some longer than others some have larger loops but I tried to keep everything the same with about a 8" loop


Here's our testing area. Just a trail my dogs use going next to this hog wire fence . The fiberglass pole on the right is where my phone will be ant it furthest point from the snare. Half way from the support and the pole is where the second picture will be taken. I treid taking all pictures at a height of around 12-14' off the walking surface. Again all the his is with a phone so i cant be 100%. Also my lighting wasn't great due to cloud cover so those will be re taken at a later point. From the pole to the support is around 2' the close pictures are around 10-12" from the snare.


First round if pictures will be a far away and up close of how we see the snares.

Shiny/untreated
Far:

Close:

Faded/boiled
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Close:

Faded/ boiled and camo painted
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Close:


Dipped ( not sure in what exactly but the color is black)
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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6136848
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Now in Black in white. These are the exact some photos.

Shiny
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Faded /Boiled


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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6137604
01/25/18 11:17 AM
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Thanks for doing these pictures, it's very informative to newby's like me. When you say snares are boiled, what does that mean? Boiled in some solution?

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6137929
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This really makes you think.
Keef, i think when he said boiled, he means water and baking soda.
How much baking soda do you put in with how much water?

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6138367
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Nice changes my opinion on treating the few I put out

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6138433
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I add about a tablespoon of baking soda into about 1/2 gallon of water and boil 15-20 minutes. Hang'em till they are cool and load them into the truck to set the next day. May be the wrong way but it works for me.


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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6138620
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I believe a guy named Wadell paints his darker on the sides and lighter on top and bottom. The darker sides act as guides


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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6139395
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I boil my snares in baking soda to take the shine off. This is what a coyote's point of view at 10'.


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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6139458
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So far I have caught 27 coyotes In CRs that I have killed. Every Cable I've hung has been hung as they come out of the box. NO cleaning no painting well I did spray 2 of them but so far they haven't caught anything.

A very experienced snare man taught me the fine points. I have hung a bare snare right on a bare rail road track and caught fox.


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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6139782
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Good thread Wolfdog.Where I trap,snares have to be blended well if I want to get a coyote in one.Good photographs and good examples.I'm not so sure that animals with good night vision,can't see a shine on moonlit or partial moonlit nights.Again,they don't see like we do.

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Taximan] #6140569
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Thanks for taking the time to take pictures and post, Wolfdog.

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6342332
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Shiny/untreated
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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6342351
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Dipped:
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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6342364
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good post wolf.

But To be fair you have to have the same lighting and the same back ground for each picture.

High light intensity or low light Intensity changes the view.


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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6342413
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I have the best success with CRs that match the envirenment they are hung at, dull grey for woodlands and dead grass for grasslands.
Great Posts Wolfdog, all good points


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Re: Snares * How We See Vs How They See * Pics [Re: Wolfdog91] #6342421
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I'm a BIG believer in camouflage for snares. Sure you can catch without, BUT its about the ones you miss. I ran alot of cameras a few years ago studying this to see if it makes a difference. Boy does it. 68% higher catch/visit ratio with blended camouflaged snares vs shiny or no treated aged dull cable.
This was done with live market snares. 3/32 1×19 cable.

Majority of the coyotes with blended snares were caught before the camera could even come on.
Nonblended there was alot of stopping and looking before deciding to go through, go around or go back the way they came from.


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Re: Snares * How We See Vs How They See * Pics [Re: Wolfdog91] #6342440
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