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Snares * How We See Vs How They See * Pics #6132391
01/20/18 08:42 PM
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Not to high Jack the other thread but I'm not sure anyone has ever done this before but I was taking some pictures and started messing around with filters on my phone. Now from my reading most furbears see in kinda a black and white type deal with some color and this looked about right.

First off both snares are about the same loop height 5/64th 1x19 cable bmi lock and I tried taking them from the same angle same place same distance.
Ok so here how we see a brand new in treated snare.

And here's how we can assume an animal will see it


Now here's the exact same style snare but the cable has been treated and spray painted a base coat of duck boat tan and a few streaks of green. Had to zoom in on these a little because they are hard to see lol

And how we can guess they would see it


I'm far from a snaresmen but figured this would be interesting to some

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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6132398
01/20/18 08:49 PM
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Very interesting. Thanks.

I use the Dakota Line snare dip.

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6132468
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It is interesting. Every time I walk up on a snare that’s to obvious I wish I had some dyed ones. Thanks for the effort.

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6132558
01/20/18 10:48 PM
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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6132561
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Dakota Line sells the Ghost Rider model snares that come pre-dipped.

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6132566
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Nice post Wolfdog

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6132575
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Those pics are great. Makes me rethink my snares. Thanks


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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6132606
01/20/18 11:22 PM
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There Is this guy trapping on the same farm as me. I talked to him and he said he was using A Dakota Line CRs. And I saw his CRs and they are black as the Ace of spades and show up like A neon sign.

He hasn't caught any coyotes and he dosen't know I caught 4 off the farm before he started. LOl

I took some pictures the other day Of a CR hanging In a trail. The next day that CR took a coyote. I'll see If I can talk the boss Into posting some of my pics.

I know the secrete Is to get In set as fast as you can with the least bit of disturbance and get out of Dodge as fast as you can.
The other thing I have found Is DON'T set right at the beginning of the trail. Get that loop hung back In a ways. I believe when that critter comes off a open field and approaches that trail It hesitates and looks around before committing.


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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6132632
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Thanks Beav. Keep the advice coming on cable restraints smile

As for Dakota Lines Ghost Rider product, the ones I've seen (in person) are a dull gray.
I just went to F&T's website, and here's their description for Dakota Line's Ghost Rider model:"The Dakota Line Ghost Rider Versatile Snare is dyed to a dull gray color with Dakota Line Snare Dip to blend into the night."
I then went to Dakota Lines website and I see they sell a black dip. It's possible the guy you saw, Beav, dipped them on his own using the black dip.



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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6132649
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Lots of guys also fail to recognize that a cat, fox, or coyotes normal line of sight is only 18-24” off the ground.

You almost got to get on your hands and knees to see things from their perspective.

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: AJE] #6132671
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I use only Dakotaline products for both water & land snaring & go thru many dozen each year. I've only used the ghost rider grey & find it very satisfactory. I think the guy using the black snares died them himself. Just can't bring myself to hang shiny snares tho some good snare men say it prolly doesn't matter, & just a soda bath doesn't dull them enough to suit me. I think any dull color is OK & the $3.00/doz D'line charges mite be a little bit pricey, but they are very uniform in color. I bought some untreated snares from them last Fall along with their gray dip, but wasn't very happy with my results. Will try again later.

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6132824
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I bought some black restraints to try and they actually blend in pretty good. I don't recall where I got them from. Got a few yotes with them in the last few weeks.


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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6132876
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You have to remember animals are walking around in the dark. The sun is not reflecting off the cable. I have caught alot fur with Solid black cable, untreated cable, and grayed cable. It's not the color of your snare it's your location that matters. Also you can't catch what's not there.


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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: 2 TRAPS] #6132912
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I don't know abt Va., but in my part of the country, predators move a good bit in the daylight hours.

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: etxwoods] #6132994
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Originally Posted By: etxwoods
I don't know abt Va., but in my part of the country, predators move a good bit in the daylight hours.




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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6133022
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One of the most important aspects of setting snares at a jackpot or anywhere in the bush is getting down to the level of the animal to have a look all around.The spots to hang your snares will jump right out at you,that were totally invisible to a human standing.Take note of the background also at the same level after hanging your loops,to see if any need breaking of the outline.


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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Boco] #6133047
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Originally Posted By: Boco
One of the most important aspects of setting snares at a jackpot or anywhere in the bush is getting down to the level of the animal to have a look all around.The spots to hang your snares will jump right out at you,that were totally invisible to a human standing.Take note of the background also at the same level after hanging your loops,to see if any need breaking of the outline.


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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6133069
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Dakotaline also has "Pale Rider" snares which are tan and would blend in well,in dead grass areas.Also agree,Ghost Riders are medium gray,not black.

Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: Wolfdog91] #6133081
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If we could set In the brush I would have 1000s of spots to hang snares but we can't.

So those of use that have to hang CRs have to be playing our A game.


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Re: Camo-ing Snares * How We See Vs How They See * [Re: 2 TRAPS] #6133166
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Originally Posted By: 2 TRAPS
You have to remember animals are walking around in the dark. The sun is not reflecting off the cable. I have caught alot fur with Solid black cable, untreated cable, and grayed cable. It's not the color of your snare it's your location that matters. Also you can't catch what's not there.


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