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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: gryhkl] #6132941
01/21/18 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted By: gryhkl
Tell the kid your sorry and GET OVER IT, I'm sure the kid has.
I believe more children have been ruined because of a lack of discipline than because of parental abuse. Abuse and discipline are very, very different.

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I don't agree with what you post most of the time but you hit a home run with this pearl of wisdom. No child needs abuse and all children need discipline at some point. Go to any place that's open to the public and you will see many examples people that don't believe in it. A swat on the butt never hurt anyone, I'm living proof of that.

Pro tip to any young ones reading, don't laugh when the yardstick your Mom is using breaks.




Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: harleydparts] #6132956
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I spanked one of my boys in a grocery store shortly after arriving here 2 years ago. You'd think I tortured a child by the looks I got.

I believe in a good swat when it's warranted.


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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: harleydparts] #6132957
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Harley your granddaughter is a fortunate child to have adults in her life that want to guide her.


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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: harleydparts] #6132971
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Lol. This thread makes me think back to a childhood vacation in lake placid, NY. We were at a place called Santas Workshop in north pole, NY, a kind of Santa land christmas themed amusement park, and I clearly remember an entire area in a gift shop with wooden paddles of different sizes being sold for child diciplinary use. They even had cartoon characters of crying children on the paddle end with red bare bottoms. My mom bought one as a souvenier, but I do remember feeling it's sting a time or two. She was a slightly built woman with six large children who would routinely laugh when she had to resort to a spsnking ( which wasn't very often). I think the paddle evened the score! God Bless, Mom. Lol

Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: harleydparts] #6132975
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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: harleydparts] #6132993
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I think all kids need discipline at some point in time. Too many kids now lack that, which is obvious in their actions and behavior in public that we all see.

When an obvious error has been made in a correction situation an apology is very much in order so the child can make some sense of the situation. That is always a good plan.

I certainly have had my share of spanking with the hand, ping pong paddles, home made paddles, leather razor strap, pinched, slapped and many good tongue lashings. I had it all coming believe me. I was an active and very curious young man in my early years.

Some teachers in my grade school would crack our knuckles with a ruler and pluck our heads with their long hard finger nails. Such good ole memories. I deserved those too. smile Then when I got home and the teacher called I got a trip to the work bench once again. All was good after that for a week or two. Then it all started over again. LOL

I believe I inspired much creativity in my dad for trying to find the best tool for the job over those early years. I know I certainly spent my share of time in the coal cellar leaning over and grabbing dads work bench many times.

Yes, I tried putting the small cardboard bound story books in the seat of my pants but that only made matters worse. Once he hit the book a time or two he hit lower on the back of the legs where there isn't much padding. LOL Didn't work out well for me.

Not as smart as I thought I was.

Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: harleydparts] #6132997
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My old man burnt my finger with his lighter......when my mother caught me lighting matches in the house over and over....when I was 6 years old....needless to say " iam a quick learner " ...that cured me real fast.


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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: harleydparts] #6133000
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harleydparts,
Don't beat yourself up I've reacted the same way.
It happens.
You did right by apologizing. I have learned to wait a little bit before the spanking and to explain them why I'm doing it.

Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: Nessmuck] #6133034
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Originally Posted By: Nessmuck

My old man burnt my finger with his lighter......when my mother caught me lighting matches in the house over and over....when I was 6 years old....needless to say " iam a quick learner " ...that cured me real fast.

Did yer Pappy no my Pappy ! I got the same lesson 40 years ago.
Spare the Rod, spoil the child - Proverbs 13:24.


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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: harleydparts] #6133037
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Every kid needs to be reminded who is in charge once in awhile. How you do that is your business...but not getting that point across is doing far more harm than good. WE all know brats running around that run their house. It's never a good thing.

And a spanking doesn't even have to hurt. Just has to show them you are the boss. Kind of like holding a new puppy down by the scruff and making him submit. No pain but gets the point across.

Of course all of this flies in the face of every uber sensitive person in todays world.
And we wonder why our kids are disrespectful little brats nowadays. 40 years ago Mom and Dad were at the top of the household food chain. Today...not so much. hmmmmm

Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: harleydparts] #6133065
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Originally Posted By: harleydparts
I will never ever spank a child again. Not ever for any reason.
Five days ago my wife Susan, my granddaughter Maggie and I were in a Krogers, Maggie was riding in the buggy with Nana pushing it, I ran down an aisle to grab something and when I got back to the buggy Maggie said "I want out of this buggy". I picked her up and my wife told me "I told her she couldn't get out". Now playing a parent or grandparent one against another has always been a huge sin in our world. I said "Maggie, you asked Nana then played me?" I smacked her on the butt. She started crying, it doesn't take much of a swat on the butt from papaw to break Maggie's heart. "No Papaw, I didn't ask you to, I just wanted out of the buggy". "what?" "Papaw I didn't ask you after Nana told me no I thought you'd ask Nana" oh good Jesus, what have I done. I stopped right there and told her how I'd screwed up and asked her to forgive me. "I forgive you Papaw, I love you", with tears running down her cheeks.
So what did I teach my beloved granddaughter that day? That cause I was bigger and stronger than her I could beat her up? That a person she should have been able to trust betrayed that trust? There was no need for it, all of my grandchildren have always known my disapproval just by my looks and have always wanted to please me. Maggie is probably over it but nightmares have kept me awake these last five nights. I will never spank a child again.




Don't be fooled, your little granddaughter was playing you, that is why she said what she did when she seen you in the first place. Your granddaughter is very smart, and will probably grow up, and become a politician. Kids are far smarter than many give them credit for, and that is a mistake many parents, and even grandparents make.


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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: harleydparts] #6133070
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Don't be ridiculous.

you only failed to ask to begin with if she played you!

you jumped the gun, it happens

learn from this and don't make a knee jerk reaction like "I'll never"........

Kids (and adults) run better with a "tune-up" once in a while.


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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: Jurassic Park] #6133110
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I don't even feel right scolding someone else's dog. But I'm sure the kid will forget all about it soon enough.
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Originally Posted By: harleydparts
I will never ever spank a child again. Not ever for any reason.
Five days ago my wife Susan, my granddaughter Maggie and I were in a Krogers, Maggie was riding in the buggy with Nana pushing it, I ran down an aisle to grab something and when I got back to the buggy Maggie said "I want out of this buggy". I picked her up and my wife told me "I told her she couldn't get out". Now playing a parent or grandparent one against another has always been a huge sin in our world. I said "Maggie, you asked Nana then played me?" I smacked her on the butt. She started crying, it doesn't take much of a swat on the butt from papaw to break Maggie's heart. "No Papaw, I didn't ask you to, I just wanted out of the buggy". "what?" "Papaw I didn't ask you after Nana told me no I thought you'd ask Nana" oh good Jesus, what have I done. I stopped right there and told her how I'd screwed up and asked her to forgive me. "I forgive you Papaw, I love you", with tears running down her cheeks.
So what did I teach my beloved granddaughter that day? That cause I was bigger and stronger than her I could beat her up? That a person she should have been able to trust betrayed that trust? There was no need for it, all of my grandchildren have always known my disapproval just by my looks and have always wanted to please me. Maggie is probably over it but nightmares have kept me awake these last five nights. I will never spank a child again.


GOOD! No need for you to be spanking other people’s kids in the first place.

Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: harleydparts] #6133113
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My dad knocked the tar out if me And i needed it...
Later that day or maybe two he talked with me about it ....when we both calmed down. l.p..
I deserved everyone I got...
As he got older every once in a while he would knock me for a good one...
I would look at him and ask what was that for.....

His answer was ..... I am sure I missed something you did....

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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: harleydparts] #6133143
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Just ought to start walking around spanking kids when you feel they don't do right LOL

I'd never spank my grand kids, although I would make sure they knew I was upset with their decision.

Spanking is for the parents to do, no one else in my world, don't matter what the little carpet climbers do, if they did so bad I felt they needed it I would address this with the parents, not ever directly do the deed.

Did I ever spank my own, oh yea and right now thats why I don't worry about spanking my grand kids !


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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: Birch Tree] #6133214
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Originally Posted By: Birch Tree
That situation gives you nightmares? Just wow, seriously? I am a father of 2, my son is almost 3 and a half years old and while I make mistakes I own up to them by sitting down with him and hugging him and explaining to him that daddy made a mistake and that I am sorry and I will do better next time (there is always a next time with small children). I only spank when it is truly needed, since I was abused as a child I am very careful about when and how I punish my children. I will never have a hard time sleeping over a mistake as small as that because it is better to use every mistake as a teaching moment for both you and the child!


I say spank early and spank often. That is the problem with young folk today. They never got a whoopin when they needed it!

Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: harleydparts] #6133276
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I've spanked mine when they needed it. My kids also know if me and grandma have the grandbabies and they warrant one we'll give them a pop. It's a way to teach. I got them growing up as did my wife. And it is what's wrong with kids now days. They don't fear the punishment. You've got to think back to when you were young. When you did something that deserved a punishment. Did you fear being put in the corner or did you fear being popped on the backside? I'll tell ya at 39 I fear my mother but I still fear the razor strap that still hangs next to the front door.


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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: harleydparts] #6133321
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Doing something just because your parents did it or because its in Proverbs, doesn't make sense to me. I had the heck beaten out of me with belts, spoons, the old back of the hand when I back talked. It didn't make me perfect and other methods would have likely worked.

I have four kids and have not needed to spank them. They are good, polite and successful kids, but certainly not perfect. Having their respect and reasoning with them goes a long way when they screw up. Spanked kids are not perfect either, so what does it solve and teach?

By the way, burning a kid with a lighter is child abuse.

Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again [Re: harleydparts] #6133328
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Nothing wrong with a spanking. I'm a firm believer in corporal punishment when needed. I think it's a major problem that more parents don't.


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Wonder if the two boys who killed all those bees ever had spankings or just talked to in a stern manner?

Only had to spank my two kids a few times. Then all I had to do is give them a look as they got older. They remembered what the butt spanking felt like and thought twice before doing something.

There has to be consequences to actions.


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