Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again
[Re: harleydparts]
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Harley your granddaughter is a fortunate child to have adults in her life that want to guide her.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again
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I think all kids need discipline at some point in time. Too many kids now lack that, which is obvious in their actions and behavior in public that we all see. When an obvious error has been made in a correction situation an apology is very much in order so the child can make some sense of the situation. That is always a good plan. I certainly have had my share of spanking with the hand, ping pong paddles, home made paddles, leather razor strap, pinched, slapped and many good tongue lashings. I had it all coming believe me. I was an active and very curious young man in my early years. Some teachers in my grade school would crack our knuckles with a ruler and pluck our heads with their long hard finger nails. Such good ole memories. I deserved those too. Then when I got home and the teacher called I got a trip to the work bench once again. All was good after that for a week or two. Then it all started over again. LOL I believe I inspired much creativity in my dad for trying to find the best tool for the job over those early years. I know I certainly spent my share of time in the coal cellar leaning over and grabbing dads work bench many times. Yes, I tried putting the small cardboard bound story books in the seat of my pants but that only made matters worse. Once he hit the book a time or two he hit lower on the back of the legs where there isn't much padding. LOL Didn't work out well for me. Not as smart as I thought I was.
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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again
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My old man burnt my finger with his lighter......when my mother caught me lighting matches in the house over and over....when I was 6 years old....needless to say " iam a quick learner " ...that cured me real fast. Did yer Pappy no my Pappy ! I got the same lesson 40 years ago. Spare the Rod, spoil the child - Proverbs 13:24.
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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again
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I will never ever spank a child again. Not ever for any reason. Five days ago my wife Susan, my granddaughter Maggie and I were in a Krogers, Maggie was riding in the buggy with Nana pushing it, I ran down an aisle to grab something and when I got back to the buggy Maggie said "I want out of this buggy". I picked her up and my wife told me "I told her she couldn't get out". Now playing a parent or grandparent one against another has always been a huge sin in our world. I said "Maggie, you asked Nana then played me?" I smacked her on the butt. She started crying, it doesn't take much of a swat on the butt from papaw to break Maggie's heart. "No Papaw, I didn't ask you to, I just wanted out of the buggy". "what?" "Papaw I didn't ask you after Nana told me no I thought you'd ask Nana" oh good Jesus, what have I done. I stopped right there and told her how I'd screwed up and asked her to forgive me. "I forgive you Papaw, I love you", with tears running down her cheeks. So what did I teach my beloved granddaughter that day? That cause I was bigger and stronger than her I could beat her up? That a person she should have been able to trust betrayed that trust? There was no need for it, all of my grandchildren have always known my disapproval just by my looks and have always wanted to please me. Maggie is probably over it but nightmares have kept me awake these last five nights. I will never spank a child again. Don't be fooled, your little granddaughter was playing you, that is why she said what she did when she seen you in the first place. Your granddaughter is very smart, and will probably grow up, and become a politician. Kids are far smarter than many give them credit for, and that is a mistake many parents, and even grandparents make. RTT
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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again
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I don't even feel right scolding someone else's dog. But I'm sure the kid will forget all about it soon enough. I will never ever spank a child again. Not ever for any reason. Five days ago my wife Susan, my granddaughter Maggie and I were in a Krogers, Maggie was riding in the buggy with Nana pushing it, I ran down an aisle to grab something and when I got back to the buggy Maggie said "I want out of this buggy". I picked her up and my wife told me "I told her she couldn't get out". Now playing a parent or grandparent one against another has always been a huge sin in our world. I said "Maggie, you asked Nana then played me?" I smacked her on the butt. She started crying, it doesn't take much of a swat on the butt from papaw to break Maggie's heart. "No Papaw, I didn't ask you to, I just wanted out of the buggy". "what?" "Papaw I didn't ask you after Nana told me no I thought you'd ask Nana" oh good Jesus, what have I done. I stopped right there and told her how I'd screwed up and asked her to forgive me. "I forgive you Papaw, I love you", with tears running down her cheeks. So what did I teach my beloved granddaughter that day? That cause I was bigger and stronger than her I could beat her up? That a person she should have been able to trust betrayed that trust? There was no need for it, all of my grandchildren have always known my disapproval just by my looks and have always wanted to please me. Maggie is probably over it but nightmares have kept me awake these last five nights. I will never spank a child again. GOOD! No need for you to be spanking other people’s kids in the first place.
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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again
[Re: harleydparts]
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My dad knocked the tar out if me And i needed it... Later that day or maybe two he talked with me about it ....when we both calmed down. l.p.. I deserved everyone I got... As he got older every once in a while he would knock me for a good one... I would look at him and ask what was that for.....
His answer was ..... I am sure I missed something you did....
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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again
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Just ought to start walking around spanking kids when you feel they don't do right LOL
I'd never spank my grand kids, although I would make sure they knew I was upset with their decision.
Spanking is for the parents to do, no one else in my world, don't matter what the little carpet climbers do, if they did so bad I felt they needed it I would address this with the parents, not ever directly do the deed.
Did I ever spank my own, oh yea and right now thats why I don't worry about spanking my grand kids !
Sorry if my opinions or replies offend you, they are not meant to !
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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again
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That situation gives you nightmares? Just wow, seriously? I am a father of 2, my son is almost 3 and a half years old and while I make mistakes I own up to them by sitting down with him and hugging him and explaining to him that daddy made a mistake and that I am sorry and I will do better next time (there is always a next time with small children). I only spank when it is truly needed, since I was abused as a child I am very careful about when and how I punish my children. I will never have a hard time sleeping over a mistake as small as that because it is better to use every mistake as a teaching moment for both you and the child! I say spank early and spank often. That is the problem with young folk today. They never got a whoopin when they needed it!
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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again
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I've spanked mine when they needed it. My kids also know if me and grandma have the grandbabies and they warrant one we'll give them a pop. It's a way to teach. I got them growing up as did my wife. And it is what's wrong with kids now days. They don't fear the punishment. You've got to think back to when you were young. When you did something that deserved a punishment. Did you fear being put in the corner or did you fear being popped on the backside? I'll tell ya at 39 I fear my mother but I still fear the razor strap that still hangs next to the front door.
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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again
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Doing something just because your parents did it or because its in Proverbs, doesn't make sense to me. I had the heck beaten out of me with belts, spoons, the old back of the hand when I back talked. It didn't make me perfect and other methods would have likely worked.
I have four kids and have not needed to spank them. They are good, polite and successful kids, but certainly not perfect. Having their respect and reasoning with them goes a long way when they screw up. Spanked kids are not perfect either, so what does it solve and teach?
By the way, burning a kid with a lighter is child abuse.
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Re: Spanking children, I'll never to it again
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Nothing wrong with a spanking. I'm a firm believer in corporal punishment when needed. I think it's a major problem that more parents don't.
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