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Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! #6138722
01/26/18 10:53 AM
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Can’t figure out how to post AP article but Judge Winmill ruled on lynx lawsuit. I’m so glad we listened to the NTA and intervened. Gary Leistico, the NTA lawyer was amazing. So amazing we have a qualified lawyer that works for the NTA that actually traps every winter! Thank you to the NTA for footing half of the legal bill. I can’t imagine anyone justifying not supporting the NTA. We also received funding from International Fur Harvesters, Upper Snake River Trappers and THe Foundation for Wildlife Management. Perfect example of different trapping organizations working together for one common goal. It about broke the ITA’s bank account. We still have over 20 grand in legal fees. Anyone interested in helping can go to our website and joining up.


Life member of ITA, NTA, and NRA. President for Idaho Trappers Association.
Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6138731
01/26/18 10:59 AM
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Glad you won.


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Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6138753
01/26/18 11:20 AM
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That is great news! Why don't you post the address where we can make a donation to help out, I would rather do that than join, in case your members get any mailings or stuff like that, it just is another drain on your organization! Congradulations!


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Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6138755
01/26/18 11:20 AM
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Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6138770
01/26/18 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: lee steinmeyer
That is great news! Why don't you post the address where we can make a donation to help out, I would rather do that than join, in case your members get any mailings or stuff like that, it just is another drain on your organization! Congradulations!


Idaho has a non magazine membership price.

Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6138819
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Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6138823
01/26/18 12:11 PM
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Very glad to hear that.
I've been a member for about 3 years now.

Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6138846
01/26/18 12:40 PM
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Great news and didn't the Trapperman fund send some cash too? Maybe I'm thinking of something else.

Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6138848
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I don't know about funding but one TMAN member did testify as an expert witness.


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Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6138881
01/26/18 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: Idahotrapguy
Can’t figure out how to post AP article but Judge Winmill ruled on lynx lawsuit. I’m so glad we listened to the NTA and intervened. Gary Leistico, the NTA lawyer was amazing. So amazing we have a qualified lawyer that works for the NTA that actually traps every winter! Thank you to the NTA for footing half of the legal bill. I can’t imagine anyone justifying not supporting the NTA. We also received funding from International Fur Harvesters, Upper Snake River Trappers and THe Foundation for Wildlife Management. Perfect example of different trapping organizations working together for one common goal. It about broke the ITA’s bank account. We still have over 20 grand in legal fees. Anyone interested in helping can go to our website and joining up.


Great work congratulations Idaho!
Re NTA opposition, it is sad that some get so wrapped-up in typically petty BS they lose sight of the big picture; but I believe that is a small minority.

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you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6138901
01/26/18 01:39 PM
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Did the NTA ever get that Chinese import tax on wild fur removed? Keeping my eye on the big picture.


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Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6138915
01/26/18 01:50 PM
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Not familiar with your gripe Dirt?


you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: drasselt] #6138941
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Originally Posted By: drasselt
Not familiar with your gripe Dirt?


They were working on this.

"But last year(2014) things turned around abruptly, with prices falling nearly in half. China is in the midst of a broad corruption crackdown that has dug deep into an industry long accustomed to operating in grey areas. Russia, meanwhile, continues to face a sliding currency that has damaged its people's ability to buy foreign goods.

And the blows have kept coming. On Jan. 1, China removed a tax exemption that had allowed tariff-free imports of raw farmed mink and fox pelts, so long as those pelts were then exported after being made into garments and scarves. But the rule faced rampant abuse and at the beginning of this year, Beijing began taxing all farmed mink and fox imports, although it cut the rate by five percentage points to compensate.

It did not, however, give a similar break to wild fur pelts, adding new pressure to a Canadian industry whose product was worth $14.8-million (Canadian) in 2009-2010 (Statistics Canada no longer gathers fur industry statistics). Wild fur is still subject to a 20 per cent import duty; the International Fur Federation is lobbying Beijing to change the rules."


Who is John Galt?
Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6138967
01/26/18 02:44 PM
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Found it. The defense fund sent $1000 to the ITA two years ago.

Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Dirt] #6139051
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Originally Posted By: Dirt
Originally Posted By: drasselt
Not familiar with your gripe Dirt?


They were working on this.

"But last year(2014) things turned around abruptly, with prices falling nearly in half. China is in the midst of a broad corruption crackdown that has dug deep into an industry long accustomed to operating in grey areas. Russia, meanwhile, continues to face a sliding currency that has damaged its people's ability to buy foreign goods.

And the blows have kept coming. On Jan. 1, China removed a tax exemption that had allowed tariff-free imports of raw farmed mink and fox pelts, so long as those pelts were then exported after being made into garments and scarves. But the rule faced rampant abuse and at the beginning of this year, Beijing began taxing all farmed mink and fox imports, although it cut the rate by five percentage points to compensate.

It did not, however, give a similar break to wild fur pelts, adding new pressure to a Canadian industry whose product was worth $14.8-million (Canadian) in 2009-2010 (Statistics Canada no longer gathers fur industry statistics). Wild fur is still subject to a 20 per cent import duty; the International Fur Federation is lobbying Beijing to change the rules."


I don't know Dirt you would need to contact them and ask.

But I would speculate that unilateral international trade negotiations with a communist govt bent on hostile appropriation of private profits through criminal accusations and tax shell games is beyond the normal scope of what the NTA can handle on their own, or even teamed with the IFF. If the US govt fully backed the effort there may be some chance for a win, but obviously this is not a very big fish to fry for the feds.

But then again, I don't know.

Last edited by drasselt; 01/26/18 07:45 PM.

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Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6139074
01/26/18 04:47 PM
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An excellent win for those of us that were in the affected areas. I resisted the urge to call up the enviros and rub it in since they're the same ones that sue our timber projects. Nothing to be gained in that and they'll be back....

Still need to keep our eye on this one on the CITES program, but for now ID is safe:

https://www.usnews.com/news/news/article...-us-fur-exports

BIG thanks to the ITA/NTA and others involved. I'm impressed with the responsiveness and tenacity of our State Dpty Attorney general that represented the State as well.

Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6139079
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Well said, Jumperzee. Kathleen Trevor from the AGs office and IDFG was on this case quite a while ago, and fought it hard all the way. I give her a lot of credit. Big thanks to all who got involved.

Jack


Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6139712
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The Trapperman Sportsman Defense Fund did send them $1000.00 last January. As you read this the committee is discussing the issue further.

Maddog47

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Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6139732
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Congrats on your win over the antis.


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Re: Idaho Trappers Association wins lynx lawsuit! [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6139993
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Join the NTA. Your state could be next.

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