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Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? #6146635
02/03/18 03:36 PM
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I've some interest in visiting Alaska with the intent of possibily moving there.

I am asking how you get your trapline.
Do you own your own property and trap it.?
Do you "rent/lease" your grounds from the State.?
Do you just pick a place and go.?

How does it work up there as far as getting your trapping grounds.?

I realize you frontiersmen are pretty tight lipped and may be reluctant to inform a potential newbie who's thinking of possibily moving into the area, so please understand that I respect your concerns and would never intrude.

Thank You.


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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6146641
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Mine was through dowry. Had a couple cabins added at the last minute......whistle


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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6146662
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There's a lot of land up here...I still don't have a real line going, just the back yard. No real success but two beaver. My biggest set back is no snow go. Hard to find used equipment up here as everything is 50 bucks off the original price no matter if it's from 85 or 2005..

Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: mad_mike] #6146669
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Originally Posted By: mad_mike
Mine was through dowry. Had a couple cabins added at the last minute......whistle


Mike, would you mind breaking that down for me?
I am unfamiliar with the process. Is it a continuation of the Homestead act.?


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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: ] #6146678
02/03/18 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: Wylee
There's a lot of land up here...I still don't have a real line going, just the back yard. No real success but two beaver. My biggest set back is no snow go. Hard to find used equipment up here as everything is 50 bucks off the original price no matter if it's from 85 or 2005..


Thank you.

I realize the spaciousness of Alaska. But how does one go about selecting his grounds for trapping.? How do I insure that when I select a trapping area that I am not crossing lines with another trapper, and visa-versa.?

And what's the ruling on erecting a structure out in that area.?
Can a guy just "head out" a few hundred miles from civilization, throw up a cabin, and dig in.? How's that work.?


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I'd say keep talking and asking around when you get here. I've heard of some success from joining the ata. You will need a reliable snow machine or an airplane..not too many right off hwy opportunities, although there are some.. I've been most successful just out exploring. I've also seen a line or two up in the Yukon training area..you can find info on trapping military land online. As far as the homestead act, it's over. I do know permits can still be had to put a "recreational cabin" up on a trapline...or at least I'm pretty sure lol.

Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6146694
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I did a lot of poring over maps, letters and calls to adfg,fur buyers and pilots. Finally found a guy who was getting out of it in an area accessible by airplane only. I paid him for the gear that was there-traps, tent, stove and a few other things. Chartered a plane in and started making trails etc. After 3 years trapping out of a tent (only need 2) I applied and got a trapline cabin permit from the state (State land). Ran a couple snogos in from the end of the road (4 days of misery each time) and over the years have accumulated every thing needed. Not cheap to get there so I stay awhile. Heading back on Tuesday for 6-7 weeks.

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It ain't easy up here, I'll say that. Haven't had any luck meeting any friendly folks. Had a lot of people give incorrect info. Most everything valuable I've learned came by trial and error or "the hard way".

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3 fingers pretty much says it all..

Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6146732
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I was given my line in 1983 from the last trapper who held it since the 50's. Pretty much isolated back then. I had many awesome years until I took the wrong person and he claimed that I didn't trap the area that held most of the Marten. He removed my traps and moved in when I had some health issues, real scum bag. In fact we named the area Scum Bag Hill. I am going to apply with the State to have that area named that on any future maps. My plans were to continue trapping until I couldn't any more. He had stolen my love affaire with the land for over 35 years. I He took something out of me!
I have passed the line on to a real go getting, hard working Trapper and I couldn't have chose a more respectful honest MAN. I can go any time I want and he can deal with Scum Bag.

Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: ] #6146736
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I appreciate that.

Life is a journey and hardship is a part of it, I've had enough hardship along the way to not fear it anymore, perspective I suppose...I don't know. Sometimes it's the price of admission into something greater, and sometimes it's just a dead end road. Either way, it's all part of the walk of life.

But finding solid friends and neighbors that have your back is invaluable. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending) we, having an independant spirit, Pioneers, usually have to cut our own road with nobody ahead, and often, nobody beside us. "Rugged Individualism" I think they call it.




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Snap, since I've been here I've heard a few stories just like that. Apparently honor and respect mean nothing anymore...seems to be every man for himself.

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Snap,

Sorry about the scumbag..glad you found an honest man to carry on.


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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6147202
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I just chopped mine out of the wildernesss


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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: white17] #6147248
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Originally Posted By: white17
I just chopped mine out of the wildernesss


That's what I like to hear.



Perhaps I could do the same.


I suppose most Alaskans are a bit reluctant to share with a newbie who comes in asking questions about "their" state and grounds. I think I might be also if I were in an Alaskan Trappers shoes.

But all I can do is ask, so please graciously bear with me.

Thank you.


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The neighboring trapper starting encroaching into my country, so after many verbal disputes. we had a knock down throw all rules out fight. Now i have more trap line. cool


Life is hard. It's even harder if your stupid!
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Originally Posted By: Wylee
It ain't easy up here, I'll say that. Haven't had any luck meeting any friendly folks. Had a lot of people give incorrect info. Most everything valuable I've learned came by trial and error or "the hard way".


For me the experience was just the opposite, people were very into sharing. The thing a person has to do is be extremely humble while meeting seasoned Alaskan's and you MUST remember, you have 2 ears and one mouth.


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Isnarewolves may have gained a little more trapline and I lost mine but just for you all's information, he's a lot tougher than he looked. I may have ended up with a broken nose and a few bumps and bruises but my new trapline is pretty sweet


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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6147877
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Lol!

What's the fur on that hat?

Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6147888
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I've been here a few years and met plenty of friendly folks.

Most of them don't want to point you to their favorite hunting spot, fishing holes or share their trapline, but they are very nice folks.


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Originally Posted By: fishermann222
Originally Posted By: Wylee
It ain't easy up here, I'll say that. Haven't had any luck meeting any friendly folks. Had a lot of people give incorrect info. Most everything valuable I've learned came by trial and error or "the hard way".


For me the experience was just the opposite, people were very into sharing. The thing a person has to do is be extremely humble while meeting seasoned Alaskan's and you MUST remember, you have 2 ears and one mouth.


Isn't that how we are all supposed to be, to walk humbly and love through listening. I appreciate your having shared this gem, it is a good reminder for us all.


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There is your answer,Just go trap,If some other guy tells you its his line beat the snots out of him,and throw him on the baitpile,lol.Actually in the old days there was a lot of burnings and shootouts here between families encroaching on other families traditional trapping territory.
And on the Railroad,the track gang foreman was the guy who could whup all other seven section gang workers.
And you wouldn't want to cross a yard foreman who was in charge of 60 or 80 men in the yard in winter,lol.


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Originally Posted By: gray dog
I've been here a few years and met plenty of friendly folks.

Most of them don't want to point you to their favorite hunting spot, fishing holes or share their trapline, but they are very nice folks.



I would be the same way if I were an Alaskan Trapper, or if I was anywhere else. I know places where trout can be caught on NY rivers that know one else knows about, and I'll take my sectets to the grave. So I totally get it.
I don't want to encroach upon anyone, and I want to be isolated enough that no one is croweding me either.

I just want to know "how" things work there, how to aquire my own piece, far from any other living soul.



I want to know the answers to things like;
Can I just wander 500 hundred miles into the interior and begin trapping and erect a cabin.?

Would anyone be willing to answer that for starters.?


Where I am from the answer is "No." I am Not allowed to pack back into the Adirondacks and build a structure out of which to trap. Thus the basis of my question concerning Alaskan ground.

Thank you guys for bearing with me.


Scott
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Great question i will be following this one closely as I am now planning a trip to Alaska in March for a couple job interviews and some house hunting. So if everything work's out i will be looking into finding a spot of my own.

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Originally Posted By: isnarewolves
The neighboring trapper starting encroaching into my country, so after many verbal disputes. we had a knock down throw all rules out fight. Now i have more trap line. cool


I'd say that after "many verbal disputes" he was lucky to have escaped with his life not have been converted into Wolf bait.

Hopefully he's learned a thing or two about respecting others, cuz if I come up and he tries that kind of thing with me he's apt to get more than a bloody nose. If that's him in the pic, I going to save it and keep an eye out for him. And trust me, there will only be 1 verbal warning. I won't tolerate that level of disrespect.

A lot of people can get "lost" in the woods and never come back out. mad


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Originally Posted By: 358wsm
Originally Posted By: gray dog
I've been here a few years and met plenty of friendly folks.

Most of them don't want to point you to their favorite hunting spot, fishing holes or share their trapline, but they are very nice folks.



I would be the same way if I were an Alaskan Trapper, or if I was anywhere else. I know places where trout can be caught on NY rivers that know one else knows about, and I'll take my sectets to the grave. So I totally get it.
I don't want to encroach upon anyone, and I want to be isolated enough that no one is croweding me either.

I just want to know "how" things work there, how to aquire my own piece, far from any other living soul.



I want to know the answers to things like;
Can I just wander 500 hundred miles into the interior and begin trapping and erect a cabin.?

Would anyone be willing to answer that for starters.?


Where I am from the answer is "No." I am Not allowed to pack back into the Adirondacks and build a structure out of which to trap. Thus the basis of my question concerning Alaskan ground.

Thank you guys for bearing with me.




Yes, you can wander out 500 miles and start trapping. (Good luck with that) No, you can't build a cabin. To get a permit for a trapline cabin, you have to show a history of trapping in that area before you can apply for the permit. It can only be used for trapping purposes. You could possibly find a remote spot of land to purchase from the state, but there might be someone already trapping there. Your best bet is to move to Alaska first then get out and explore.


"Wise men learn more from fools than fools learn from the wise."
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You can not just decide where you want to trap and then build a cabin, unless you buy a chunk of remote land. Trapline cabins can be put up on state land, only after proving you have been trapping the area for a few years.

What is your occupation? That will determine what areas you can live in and easily find work.


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Eureka & Fishermann,

Thank you both. You have answered my question clearly and I understand.

My occupation has been that of an accomplished carpenter (both framing and finish) from foundation (masonry) to roof top and every detail in between, whether building the cabinets or making my own T&G flooring... I do all of it.
I've made my living, humble though it may be, with my own two hands and have been building homes and doing remodels for 34 years now. I do all phases of residential work except that I sub out electric and HVAC to licensed installers.

I am actually on the Island of Maui as we speak working three projects. The homeowner discovered me, hired me to do some work on a mainland project of his. He liked my approach and results so much that he asked me to come, all expense paid, to Maui and tackle these other needs of his. We struck a deal and here I am.

I've had to sacrifice a season of hunting and fishing in order to assist this family. I miss the North country about to tears, and cannot wait to get finished up and outta here. But, I won't be returning to Liberal New York.

Thus my incessant questioning concerning location.

I want to say say Thank You again.






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Originally Posted By: chasing eyes
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Great question i will be following this one closely as I am now planning a trip to Alaska in March for a couple job interviews and some house hunting. So if everything work's out i will be looking into finding a spot of my own.





I wish you well.


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Originally Posted By: AKHowler
Isnarewolves may have gained a little more trapline and I lost mine but just for you all's information, he's a lot tougher than he looked. I may have ended up with a broken nose and a few bumps and bruises but my new trapline is pretty sweet

You’re small but pretty wiry!

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You’ve been given good info. To sum it up, in my opinion: you have to get here first, then start looking. For reasons like Oh Snap’s story, you’re not going to get very much information over the internet, no matter how genuine you are. You’ll get a lot more help in person. But like others said, unless you happen to stumble across someone wanting to sell a line, you’re still going to have to scout and find it yourself. I consider scouting and establishing a line sort of a “rite of passage.” Anyone can set traps, and anyone can follow a trail blazed by someone else. But nothing proves you’ve got the grit like learning the land and doing the hard work that comes before the fur.

If you’re coming here to work and live, then those are going to determine where you’re based. From there you start scanning Google Earth and land ownership maps, most of which are available online but only by borough I believe (I’m not aware of a statewide ownership map.) USFWS has a good interactive ARCGIS map on their website that shows major landholders. Basically you start looking for good looking areas and access, then get out and scout during trapping season to see if anyone else is there. And still, some people take rest years from their lines, and might come back next year and claim it. So it really takes a lot of homework and legwork just to get started. Your mode of access will make the biggest difference in where you can go. Boat? Snowmachine? ATV? Foot? All have limitations, and a learning curve.


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Originally Posted By: KenaiKid
You’ve been given good info. To sum it up, in my opinion: you have to get here first, then start looking. For reasons like Oh Snap’s story, you’re not going to get very much information over the internet, no matter how genuine you are. You’ll get a lot more help in person. But like others said, unless you happen to stumble across someone wanting to sell a line, you’re still going to have to scout and find it yourself. I consider scouting and establishing a line sort of a “rite of passage.” Anyone can set traps, and anyone can follow a trail blazed by someone else. But nothing proves you’ve got the grit like learning the land and doing the hard work that comes before the fur.

If you’re coming here to work and live, then those are going to determine where you’re based. From there you start scanning Google Earth and land ownership maps, most of which are available online but only by borough I believe (I’m not aware of a statewide ownership map.) USFWS has a good interactive ARCGIS map on their website that shows major landholders. Basically you start looking for good looking areas and access, then get out and scout during trapping season to see if anyone else is there. And still, some people take rest years from their lines, and might come back next year and claim it. So it really takes a lot of homework and legwork just to get started. Your mode of access will make the biggest difference in where you can go. Boat? Snowmachine? ATV? Foot? All have limitations, and a learning curve.


I agree, I have been given good advice, and yours is among the best of it.

Thank you for taking the time, and being so constructive and informative.


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I just want to take a minute and say "thank you" to all who have contributed and who have been willing to intrust me with like information, from predator rifles and loads, to coon cubby sets, and to the sensitive topic of Alaskan trapping.


Scott
Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6148982
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As a skilled carpenter, you can probably find easy work in most of the hub communities. Dillingham, Bethel, Nome, Kotz, however there are also lots of trappers who have established lines in these areas. But if your willing to fly out from these areas to trap, the sky is the limit.


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Thanks Scott
Wish you well also.

Definitely getting excited now just booked our airline tickets.

Definitely a lot of good advice here.

Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6149535
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You should have no problem finding work wherever you want !!

The most important element is dependability !!! Be there when you say you will !!


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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: fishermann222] #6149579
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Originally Posted By: fishermann222
Originally Posted By: Wylee
It ain't easy up here, I'll say that. Haven't had any luck meeting any friendly folks. Had a lot of people give incorrect info. Most everything valuable I've learned came by trial and error or "the hard way".


For me the experience was just the opposite, people were very into sharing. The thing a person has to do is be extremely humble while meeting seasoned Alaskan's and you MUST remember, you have 2 ears and one mouth.
For the record most of that experience was handled with my ears. I will admit I can be a motor mouth but I was raised with values. And trust when given advice I listen. Not just a babbling idiot here, I'm many other things too. Man it's hard to convey anything through text.

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Thanks Scott for allowing me to share my experience. Hope I didn't offend anyone else here, not my intention. I should have said I haven't made any real friends yet..and it's difficult because I rarely make it to civilization.

Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6149705
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Wylee: I suspect a lot of folks know who and where you are. Alaska is a small place in that regard.

Some of you may know that my daughter is married to Pete's son. I think I met Pete in 2000 but knew who he was for many years before that....even though we are several hundred miles apart. After all......his picture is in every post office in the country ! Our kids met before we did


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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6149900
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For you new guys to Alaska, you've got to realize new guys to Alaska is a revolving door. Once the local people realize after 5 or 6 years that you are actually going to stay for the long haul, maybe people will invest the time in helping you out. I've tired of investing time in people who dream big and give up in a few weeks to a few years.

You know how many new guys have offered to help me cut trapline trail?

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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6149933
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Not looking to "win" the conversation here but not sure how anyone would know me yet..the beav is the only one who has met up with me from tman.
Nor have I asked for any real help...maybe some advice but I cut my own wood, fix my own stuff and grow my own green.
As far as invested I own this property outright and I ain't goin no where no time soon. I plan to die on this silty chunk of land. Y'all are stuck with me!

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Wylee I never meant to suggest that you don't listen, was just giving advice to others on what has worked for me. That is the way it is in the bush, as far as folks in the interior, i have no idea.


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Well dang it there I go getting all defensive again. It is difficult to hear tone of voice and attitude through this dang message box. I take some comment out of context and pooh all over 358s thread. Maybe the advice I need is yet to be said lol. I just want to help too.

Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6150331
02/06/18 10:07 PM
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I trapped an area accessable to anyone hearty enough to try for a long time. 10 plus years, but certainly couldn't sustain more than one trapper. A narrow valley that had little access to anywhere else.
I knew where I wanted to trap, but also knew it was "occupied", by a local legend with 40 years there, and his son-in-law. His son-in-law was/is a dear friend. It never, ever crossed my mind to "tresspass. I was finally INVITED to trap a section.
Of course I had visions of fur piled high. While that hasn't been the case, it has been the greatest invitation I have ever gotten. I could fill volumes on the adventurs, friendship moments, and deep gratitude I have for those two men. I can never re-pay what they graciously gave me. But I try.


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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6150333
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As to my old line, I returned the favor to a young bull of the woods, who meticulously farms it, as I did.


Made it almost 3 years without censor!

Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6150341
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Ummmmmmmmm sounds just a bit on the gay side there bro !!! OH....... but that's really great !!! laugh


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Originally Posted By: Wylee
Not looking to "win" the conversation here but not sure how anyone would know me yet..the beav is the only one who has met up with me from tman.
Nor have I asked for any real help...maybe some advice but I cut my own wood, fix my own stuff and grow my own green.
As far as invested I own this property outright and I ain't goin no where no time soon. I plan to die on this silty chunk of land. Y'all are stuck with me!



They may not KNOW you but they know ABOUT you !!


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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6150391
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A little appreciation goes a long ways, is the take home. Wouldn't trade it.


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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6150511
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Well gentlemen, this thread has certainly picked up.

A short story, if I may...

About 20 years ago I was in a small Cree Indian village up in Northern Ontario named Waskaganish. I was there by way of invitation to hear the reports of those who lived through the fall out of residential schooling and to assist those families in their process of healing, parenting and reassimilation back into their original way of living.
I had pitched a small tent upon some spruce bowes in a swamp behind the home of the president of their trappers association.
One evening I was asked to join in on a Sturgeon feast, of course I accepted. After some time of eating with them, the platter of fish circled back around, and being that it tasted so good, I took a few more chunks of fish from the plate and promptle ate it all.
That was a BIG mistake, for Sturgeon is Very rich in oil, and not all that easy to digest (at least for me it wasn't). That evening it was warm and the biting flies were ungodly.
At dark, I headed to my tent to try to not only escape the flies, but also I thought the sleep might make my stomach settle. Well, I escaped the flies for a little while, but my stomach was another matter. Soon I realized that I needed to unzip my tent and get outside, because the Sturgen wanted to rise like a trout from within me.
Moments later I was standing , well, squatting really, naked and again exposed to those flies. I took hold of a small sapling and blasted the swamp from both ends of myself while standing ankle deep in swampy water. I thought I was going home to see my ancestors for sure.
The next morning I told the trapper what had happened. He laughed and muttered something in Cree and then only 2 words in English, "blue eye."

By the end of the day it seemed EVERYBODY in that village knew my name, if they didn't then, for their humor, just called me "the blue eye."


Becoming "known" and "getting aquainted" in a new area has it's price sometimes.! grin



God Bless you All for your assistance in my quest to find a new place to call home. You've been Great.

Scott










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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: white17] #6150571
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Originally Posted By: white17
Wylee: I suspect a lot of folks know who and where you are. Alaska is a small place in that regard.

Some of you may know that my daughter is married to Pete's son. I think I met Pete in 2000 but knew who he was for many years before that....even though we are several hundred miles apart. After all......his picture is in every post office in the country ! Our kids met before we did


That P.O. picture thing probably explains why so many people come up to me and say "hi" to me by name. Who knew?

Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6150897
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So for Alaska is there such a thing as a registered trapline? Do I check with DNR? I am in Juneau and have been trapping for 25 years. My father in law was really active in the 1980s and 1990s and even has given me a his box of notecards of his trapline, but it isn't a registered thing to my knowledge. I am now introducing my son (11) to trapping and he is way into it compared to hunting... luckily my girls (6 & 9) are into hunting and all are into fishing.

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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6150917
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No legally registered trap lines in Alaska.


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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6150934
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I retired up here in 05 and it took me a good three years to find a area to trap. I bumped quit a few fellow trappers in that time frame and had a bunch of gear stolen. The last guy I bumped into told me to go look at a certain location that one of his buddies used to trap but had a motorcycle accident and shattered his leg and could no longer go out.
Turns out I knew who he was talking about, I had bought gear from the guy smile
A few suggestions........
Get involved in the local trapping organization, you will meet people and many of them will share knowledge of trapping with you and perhaps one can point you to a area that may be of interest.
Stay away from those easy access points. 9 times out of 10 if there is a easy spot to off load a sled, or access to a large area, there is someone already there or you are going to lose gear to people out joy riding.
Good luck!

Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: Rusty Newhouse] #6152313
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Originally Posted By: Rusty Newhouse
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I've been trapping the same line off and on since 1972.
I started off trapping with my brother, the first cabin we built was on a friends native allotment. From there we cut trails and built several permitted line cabins.


Want to sell it.? grin


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Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6154257
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Most of my trapline was unused federal land near where I settled in interior Alaska. Lived far enough away from the nearest town nobody was trapping there and was poor country anyway. Had more than I could ever use. Wife and I ran over 250 traps at the height of things.

Re: Hey Alaskans, how did you aquire your trapline.? [Re: 358wsm] #6155734
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I hear you can buy a line with everything for as little as 12K up here.


I love to trap!
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