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Re: 38 States of America [Re: Tweed] #6149116
02/05/18 05:48 PM
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Don't talk about nuking Canada-even in jest. Just plain poor.


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Re: 38 States of America [Re: Tweed] #6149160
02/05/18 06:28 PM
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BC can join California and Washington state,Alberta rednecks cant wait to become part of the gun toting USA,Quebeckers would give you a run for your money,they don't even want to be Canadian,let alone Yankees.And the North,well we all know you couldn't survive up here anyway,so not worried.Toronto and the south of Ont can join lefty NY.
Northern Ontario will still adopt Northern Minnesota and the UP.

Last edited by Boco; 02/05/18 06:28 PM.

Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: 38 States of America [Re: Tweed] #6149162
02/05/18 06:30 PM
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I've read some stupid things on here.
And walleyed that is by for the worst
EVER. Did you hit your head or is that just who you are.

Re: 38 States of America [Re: Boco] #6149164
02/05/18 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: Boco
BC can join California and Washington state,Alberta rednecks cant wait to become part of the gun toting USA,Quebeckers would give you a run for your money,they don't even want to be Canadian,let alone Yankees.And the North,well we all know you couldn't survive up here anyway,so not worried.Toronto and the south of Ont can join lefty NY.
Northern Ontario will still adopt Northern Minnesota and the UP.


What About The Newfies ? laugh

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Re: 38 States of America [Re: Tweed] #6149167
02/05/18 06:34 PM
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I like the newfies,they are a real independent sort.They didn't even join Canada until 1949.

Last edited by Boco; 02/05/18 06:36 PM.

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Re: 38 States of America [Re: Boco] #6149170
02/05/18 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: Boco
I like the newfies,they are a real independent sort.


We'd Let The Newfies Join The 38 States Of America, And If They Did, We'd Restart The Harp Seal

Cub Ball-Game Out On The Ice On The Gulf OF Saint Lawrence !! laugh

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Re: 38 States of America [Re: Tweed] #6149174
02/05/18 06:44 PM
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Leave Canada alone. No way I could bear living in the same country as my in-laws.

Re: 38 States of America [Re: Tweed] #6149179
02/05/18 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: Tweed


That's actually the same argument I made with someone else.

Most (not all...) cities provide more revenue to the state than they receive back in aid.


Originally Posted By: gray dog
Everybody knows if you want to make big money you move to the country were the wealth is concentrated.


I’m not disagreeing at all. Of course cities make more money, and therefor generate more taxes. But this isn’t about quantity; it’s about proportion. If it’s as you say Tweed, then why would the writers of this proposal even make their statement?
“states with too many big cities and/or large population centers mean too much strain on a state’s tax dollars.”

I was basing my argument on their statement, just on the hypothetical assumption that it was valid . Of course, state and federal distribution is vastly different as well, and federal spending hugely affects state. Perhaps the reason that cities are a “burden” on states is because the feds fund so much of the unincorporated infrastructure.


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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Boco couldn't catch a cold.

But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
Re: 38 States of America [Re: Tweed] #6149186
02/05/18 07:02 PM
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Re: 38 States of America [Re: Tweed] #6149266
02/05/18 08:17 PM
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looks like both maps put a lot of gun control and animal rights advocates into states where those things are not a big threat


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: 38 States of America [Re: KenaiKid] #6149280
02/05/18 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: KenaiKid
Originally Posted By: Tweed


That's actually the same argument I made with someone else.

Most (not all...) cities provide more revenue to the state than they receive back in aid.


I’m not disagreeing at all. Of course cities make more money, and therefor generate more taxes. But this isn’t about quantity; it’s about proportion. If it’s as you say Tweed, then why would the writers of this proposal even make their statement?
“states with too many big cities and/or large population centers mean too much strain on a state’s tax dollars.”


I wasn't sure why they said that and I didn't find a reference for that statement either. One reason cities per capita contribute more is because economy of scales. High density is just more efficient. This isn't an argument against or for a certain type of lifestyle though I'm sure some one will try to make that argument.

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Re: 38 States of America [Re: Tweed] #6149361
02/05/18 09:21 PM
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The State of Superior looks good to me, but it needs a little curve to exclude the Twin Cities.

Re: 38 States of America [Re: Tweed] #6149373
02/05/18 09:29 PM
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Less representatives in the Senate for less populated states when each state gets two and you combine two or three. More for states that become two states.

Re: 38 States of America [Re: Boco] #6149419
02/05/18 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: Boco
I like the newfies,they are a real independent sort.They didn't even join Canada until 1949.


Aren't they one of the few sovereign states ever that willfully gave up their sovereignty?

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