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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: wetdog]
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02/05/18 10:26 AM
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Tweed
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It would be one state
Confusion lol
Tweed how do you find this stuff? Lol I'm more inquisitive then a hungry possum. I'm always looking to learn weird useless facts or odd scenarios.
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: Tweed]
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02/05/18 10:48 AM
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Jmack
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Looks like more trapping ground since I am currently near three state borders but with the new lay out I could hit it all.
The first requisite of a good citizen in this republic of ours is that he shall be able and willing to pull his own weight.
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: Tweed]
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02/05/18 02:23 PM
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Minnesota looks similar in shape. It just expanded 20 miles west of the red River to include all the mouth breathing liberals stacked up like cord wood from Fargo and Grand Forks ND. Mesabi would implode after the first distribution of welfare checks.
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: Tweed]
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02/05/18 02:39 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
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Just make North Michigan,and North Minnesota and Maine part of Canada.They are already sort of honorary Canadians.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: Tweed]
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02/05/18 02:48 PM
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KenaiKid
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Ayiyi. Liberal logic. "states with too many big cities and/or large population centers mean too much strain on a state’s tax dollars.". I wonder if these nuts have ever considered that it's not the population that causes a strain on tax dollars, it's the balance of consumers vs producers. A huge city full of employed people who pay more taxes than they consume in services, would have a public surplus. Even the smallest country town will have a deficit if they spend more than their constituents contribute. Unfortunately cities tend to attract those who would rather benefit from the work of others. Rural areas require less infrastructure and typically hold a higher ratio of producers vs consumers.
Boco couldn't catch a cold. But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: FlyinFinn]
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02/05/18 03:23 PM
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Tweed
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Minnesota looks similar in shape. It just expanded 20 miles west of the red River to include all the mouth breathing liberals stacked up like cord wood from Fargo and Grand Forks ND. Mesabi would implode after the first distribution of welfare checks. . ROFL! Dang Flynn! Don't hold back now...tell us how you really feel.
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: KenaiKid]
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02/05/18 03:24 PM
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Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed
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Ayiyi. Liberal logic. "states with too many big cities and/or large population centers mean too much strain on a state’s tax dollars.". I wonder if these nuts have ever considered that it's not the population that causes a strain on tax dollars, it's the balance of consumers vs producers. A huge city full of employed people who pay more taxes than they consume in services, would have a public surplus. Even the smallest country town will have a deficit if they spend more than their constituents contribute. Unfortunately cities tend to attract those who would rather benefit from the work of others. Rural areas require less infrastructure and typically hold a higher ratio of producers vs consumers. That's actually the same argument I made with someone else. Most (not all...) cities provide more revenue to the state than they receive back in aid.
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: Tweed]
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02/05/18 05:01 PM
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Larry Bowden
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I'm good with being in the state of "Big Horn" instead of Dakota!
Western SD Fur Harvesters, SDTA, NTA, FTA and life member of NRA. Cancer survivor (7 years) and still fighting it.
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: Tweed]
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02/05/18 05:20 PM
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Look at most historical maps of Florida, and the Panhandle goes clear to Louisiana. Was called West Florida at times. I think it still should. Most Panhandlers do not like to be referred to as L.A.. They prefer not to be called Alabamaniacs. 
Psalm 34:6
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: Tweed]
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02/05/18 05:32 PM
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FairbanksLS
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Everybody knows if you want to make big money you move to the country were the wealth is concentrated.
formerly posting as white dog
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: Tweed]
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02/05/18 05:48 PM
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coonlove
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Don't talk about nuking Canada-even in jest. Just plain poor.
"I'm the paterfamilias"
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: Tweed]
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02/05/18 06:28 PM
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Boco
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BC can join California and Washington state,Alberta rednecks cant wait to become part of the gun toting USA,Quebeckers would give you a run for your money,they don't even want to be Canadian,let alone Yankees.And the North,well we all know you couldn't survive up here anyway,so not worried.Toronto and the south of Ont can join lefty NY.
Northern Ontario will still adopt Northern Minnesota and the UP.
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Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: Boco]
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02/05/18 06:30 PM
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BC can join California and Washington state,Alberta rednecks cant wait to become part of the gun toting USA,Quebeckers would give you a run for your money,they don't even want to be Canadian,let alone Yankees.And the North,well we all know you couldn't survive up here anyway,so not worried.Toronto and the south of Ont can join lefty NY.
Northern Ontario will still adopt Northern Minnesota and the UP. What About The Newfies ? w
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: Tweed]
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02/05/18 06:34 PM
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Boco
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I like the newfies,they are a real independent sort.They didn't even join Canada until 1949.
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Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: Boco]
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02/05/18 06:39 PM
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I like the newfies,they are a real independent sort. We'd Let The Newfies Join The 38 States Of America, And If They Did, We'd Restart The Harp Seal Cub Ball-Game Out On The Ice On The Gulf OF Saint Lawrence !! w
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: Tweed]
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02/05/18 06:50 PM
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KenaiKid
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That's actually the same argument I made with someone else.
Most (not all...) cities provide more revenue to the state than they receive back in aid.
Everybody knows if you want to make big money you move to the country were the wealth is concentrated. I’m not disagreeing at all. Of course cities make more money, and therefor generate more taxes. But this isn’t about quantity; it’s about proportion. If it’s as you say Tweed, then why would the writers of this proposal even make their statement? “states with too many big cities and/or large population centers mean too much strain on a state’s tax dollars.” I was basing my argument on their statement, just on the hypothetical assumption that it was valid . Of course, state and federal distribution is vastly different as well, and federal spending hugely affects state. Perhaps the reason that cities are a “burden” on states is because the feds fund so much of the unincorporated infrastructure.
Boco couldn't catch a cold. But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: Tweed]
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02/05/18 08:17 PM
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danny clifton
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looks like both maps put a lot of gun control and animal rights advocates into states where those things are not a big threat
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: KenaiKid]
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02/05/18 08:24 PM
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Tweed
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That's actually the same argument I made with someone else.
Most (not all...) cities provide more revenue to the state than they receive back in aid.
I’m not disagreeing at all. Of course cities make more money, and therefor generate more taxes. But this isn’t about quantity; it’s about proportion. If it’s as you say Tweed, then why would the writers of this proposal even make their statement? “states with too many big cities and/or large population centers mean too much strain on a state’s tax dollars.” I wasn't sure why they said that and I didn't find a reference for that statement either. One reason cities per capita contribute more is because economy of scales. High density is just more efficient. This isn't an argument against or for a certain type of lifestyle though I'm sure some one will try to make that argument.
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Re: 38 States of America
[Re: Boco]
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02/05/18 10:04 PM
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Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed
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I like the newfies,they are a real independent sort.They didn't even join Canada until 1949. Aren't they one of the few sovereign states ever that willfully gave up their sovereignty?
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