You are second post after this one quoted. Randy and Vicki are not the only ones that can see what's coming.

Walleyed , you need to re-read the book.....The US Marshalls were the first on scene ( there were 6 of them, not 4) One of the marshals killed the boy. Then the HRT was called in.

Also according to his own book, he didnt go to court because the court clerk told him he could lose title to his property. This of course wasn't true, but Randy said he didnt know that at the time.Had nothing to do with his wife. I find it hard to believe he would buy that story....he was an engineer in the military so he wasn't totally stupid. The court clerk denied saying that if I remember right.

Again Im not sticking up for the Feds, but Randy Weaver was a coward. No way he should have kept his family there. I would probably find some respect for him if he would have protected his family first, then fought them to the death if thats how he felt. But in the end he didnt even fight. He sat cowering in the corner and made his daughter crawl through her mothers blood to get him water.....thats in HIS book.

Truth be told the real story is much simpler. He got caught in a sting, didnt want to risk his neck co-operating with the police, but didnt like the idea of prison either. So maybe he thought he could get enough people would rise up that it would all go away. Thats my take on it anyway. My brother-in-law has met him a few times. I wouldnt walk across the street to see the guy. Feel sorry for the girl.

The death of his family is what makes the situation still talked about today. Had he tried to fight on his own he would have been snuffed out, been little more than a blurb in the local newspaper and another notch on Horiuchi''s rifle.

Hey Yukon,

Do You Know Curt Thompson, An Hunting Outfitter From Up Your Way ?

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Horiuchi was involved in Waco as well. That's an interesting story on it's own.

Now...you're scaring me! Small world. Yep I've known Curt for years. We buy our hay from him. Consider him a good friend, he's a hard working guy. Sadly his wife passed away last year so Curt's had a rough go this last while.

I Know Curt From The Eastern Sportsman's Show At Harrisburg, Pa Where I Exhibited My Fishing Business For 20 Years. Hung Out With Him And My Whitetail Outfitters Dale McKinnon & Doug Percival From Alberta At The Progress Grille After The Show Every Night For Dinner. Crazy Guy And Great Outfitter.

Haven't Seen Him In Years As I Stopped Doing The Show In 2005.

Small World Indeed.

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Walleyed,
In his testimony, Weaver stated he fired his 9mm in the air three times after the initial gunfire, to "hail Sammy and Kevin to the house/yard.
Also Degan ran across the line of fire of the two other agents of his team, while confronting Harris, and in the testimony it was stated he had bullet holes in his backpack from one of his own team members.

Didn't Know That.

Did That Evidence Of Degan Nearly Being Ventilated By His Own Fire Team In a Friendly Fire Fiasco Come Out at Trial Or Was It Supressed By The Government, and Then Later Disclosed (Extracted) During The Congressional Oversight Committee Inquiry Of The Incident.

Didn't Remember Randy Weaver Firing Any Shots But It Was Certainly Not At Any Of The Federal Perps.

Those Errant Shots By Those Federal Agents Tells Me They Went Right To Rock & Roll/Spray & Pray At

The Drop Of A Hat, and As Far As I'm Concerned, Completely Justifies Harris's Firing Back

In Self Defense.


The Fact The Weaver Group Of Kevin Harris, Sammy Weaver, And Striker the Lab Took

66.3% Casualties KIA Proves Beyond A Shadow Of A Doubt Who Shot First And Who Then Did Most Most

Of The Rest Of The Shooting.


Cold Blooded Murder, It Was.

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TTT

Have you considered writing a letter to the President?

It's my understanding there is no statue of limitations for murder.

Heck No,

I Don't Want To Land On The Treasury Department's/Secret Service's AAA List Of Right Wing Fanatical Wackos That Qualify To Be Investigated As A Threat To The President.

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Coward.....

You Go First, Tweed !!!

Or Perhaps You Can Convince FlyinFinn Or Danny Clifton To Fire Off A Strongly Worded Memo To President Trump On This Troubling Issue.

I. Myself, Would Prefer To Fly A Bit Lower Under The Radar.

I'll Probably Make The List Anyhow Due To the

NSA's Super Secret Data-Mining Algorithm Program To Identify Conservative,Fanatical, Right Wing,Patriot,

John Birch Society Aficionados Who Post On Government Watchdog Threads Such As This.



"Extremism In The Defense Of Liberty Is No Vice".

"Moderation In The Pursuit Of Justice Is No Virtue". -- Barry Goldwater

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Walleyed,
Watch the link posted above of the congressional inquiry. It gives a pretty good chronological explanation of the events.Including the finding of the 9mm brass,where Weaver stated he fired the three shots after the initial gunfire, while he was in the yard.