.222 for predators
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02/08/18 09:51 PM
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Buck (Zandra)
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I'm looking to buy a new fur gun this summer and came across the .222,but haven't heard much about it as a fur gun.Not looking for a caliber that kills them deader than dead,looking for something that's fairly fur friendly.Not into sewing up massive exit holes.My shots here are normally 100 yrds. or less,so I'm not looking for a distance caliber.Now I've got a .204,,223,and a military surplus M-1 carbine,and out of the three I'm actually happiest with the carbine.In the habitat I hunt in and the distances I shoot plus its been very fur friendly on coyotes for me,only drawback is I hate to subject it anymore to the winters we have up here considering the value of the gun nowdays.I'm thinking about the carbine reproductions,like the new Inland,but would like to hear some experiences with the .222 as a fur and predator gun.
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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Re: .222 for predators
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02/08/18 09:56 PM
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Had a 222 several years ago until it was ruined in a wreck. I really liked the caliber. Still like it over the 223 but that just my opinion.
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Re: .222 for predators
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02/08/18 10:16 PM
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It will do the trick just fine. If you have guns as close to that caliber as you do, maybe drop down to something fun and inexpensive like the .17 Winchester super magnum. Laser straight to 200 yards and easy on fur.
Osky
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Re: .222 for predators
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02/08/18 10:22 PM
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I’ve got two of them an old savage 340 and a Remington 700.Ive shot a lot of coyotes with them 50grain nosier bt is all I’ve been using since the mid 90’s I try to keep shots at 250 or under.For coyotes most shot are one hole in no exit but like anything hit the shoulder or spine and you’ll be sewing.If I was mostly shooting close in with fox around I would probably play with some 40 grain bullets to see how the worked on smaller game,I know there accurate as I’ve shot a lot of p-dogs with them.
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Re: .222 for predators
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02/08/18 11:10 PM
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if you reload you can load 223 to 222 velocities very easily , brass will last a long time at 222 velocities and you already have a 223 not that I am discouraging you from buying another gun but 223 is just a 222 with a touch more case capacity
the Eugene stoner rifle later named M16 was originally built for 222rem and demonstrated in live fire as such for the army the army wanted a faster 222 that could equal or better the accuracy of the M2 ball round 30-06 and wounding capacity or M1 carbine they came up with the velocity and bullet weight they wanted so Springfield armory lengthened a 222 giving the case some more capacity and called it 222 special , Remington then took that and made it a commercial cartridge 223
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Re: .222 for predators
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02/08/18 11:54 PM
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Very informative guys,this is what I'm looking for.I should have said I don't reload,know nothing about it.All ammunition I use is factory.I realize no one caliber is going to justice on everything,just trying to get as close as possible.Through the years I've found a number of coyotes in the woods shot but not skinned,alot of guys give advice on predator guns but their not even skinning them.Heck,if I just wanted a gun to shoot coyotes I'd use my deer rifle!I saw a Mini-14 chambered in .222 and that's what got me thinking.I didn't realize Remington chambered their 700's in a .222.I got a .17 HMR last year but haven't taken it out yet.
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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02/09/18 12:37 AM
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I’ve got two of them an old savage 340 and a Remington 700.Ive shot a lot of coyotes with them 50grain nosier bt is all I’ve been using since the mid 90’s I try to keep shots at 250 or under.For coyotes most shot are one hole in no exit but like anything hit the shoulder or spine and you’ll be sewing.If I was mostly shooting close in with fox around I would probably play with some 40 grain bullets to see how the worked on smaller game,I know there accurate as I’ve shot a lot of p-dogs with them. I have heard good things about the 40gr NBT on yoted. It doesn't seem to over penetrate yet it is hard enough to make shoulder entries without blowing up. As others have said, you can't beat reloading. A 53gr TTSX will handle 150 yard Deer also.
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02/09/18 12:39 AM
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I to love the .222 Remington I've killed a lot of different animals with mine it's a 788 and just a tack driver. Mine really enjoyed the match 52 gr BTHP from Sierra. With that bullet the largest hole I've had to sew up was about the size of a .50¢ piece. Allan
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02/09/18 01:06 AM
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I'm right with Allen. I have and old Remington 722 in .222 and load the 52 grain Sierra as well as the 40 grain V-Max for it. I use the Sierra for coyotes with very good results and the V-Max for the local ground squirrels.
I also load the 52 grain Sierra BTHP for coyotes in my .223 and 22-250. Best "fur" bullet I've found.
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If you don't reload, ammo availability could be a concern, not impossible to find but not real common. It used to be a very popular cal. It was even used some in benchrest competition. When the .223 was adopted by the U.S. military .222 started a steady decline.
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I'm right with Allen. I have and old Remington 722 in .222 and load the 52 grain Sierra as well as the 40 grain V-Max for it. I use the Sierra for coyotes with very good results and the V-Max for the local ground squirrels.
I also load the 52 grain Sierra BTHP for coyotes in my .223 and 22-250. Best "fur" bullet I've found. That should be a super shooter. That 722 with the 26" barrel puts a bit more snoose behind the round. I have been looking for a 722 in a .243 for a long time, I have a special purpose for it. Hard to find in that caliber that hasn't been cut down. Osky
"A womans heart is the hardest rock the Almighty has put on this earth, and I can find no sign on it" Jabless in Minnesota www.SureDockusa.com
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02/09/18 11:59 AM
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I've got a rem 788 with a 26" barrel in 222 that is a tack driver. I shoot 50 gr hornady sx. NO exit on fox most of the time. Ground hogs will have a little hole entrance wound and no exit. But they feel like a dish rag when you pick them up. LOL
When my son was 11 he killed his first deer with it. That was 18 years ago.
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02/09/18 08:27 PM
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222 magnum is casing the r.204 is made from, 222 would be a good fox gun
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