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DIY Drywall #6155048
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How many of you have done it? Hanging it is piece of cake, but taping and mudding? Bought a small fixer upper, with plaster cracking on several walls. Was thinking of just throwing drywall over top of the plaster. Want to put asmuch work into it as I can to save labor costs. Talked to a drywall guy I know and he said if I want it to look good, don't be cheap and hire it done. That true? I'm sure there's tricks and artistry that come with time, but is it really THAT hard?

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You could spend 2-3 weeks trying to do what a skilled guy can do in 3 days


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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155059
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Many things to consider. Are you removing trim. Does the ceiling sag. Are the outlets in the baseboard or the walls. Are the corners blumb
Should I go on?

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Many things to consider. Are you removing trim. Does the ceiling sag. Are the outlets in the baseboard or the walls. Are the corners blumb
Should I go on?

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Hang it yourself but hire someone to mud and tape.

Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155062
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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: keets] #6155066
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Originally Posted By: keets
You could spend 2-3 weeks trying to do what a skilled guy can do in 3 days

x2++++++


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I charge more if Joe homeowner hangs it
Because its never done right

Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155070
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Removing trim, yes, ceiling sag, no, outlets in both baseboard and wall. Time is no object, if I can make it look okay. How much would it cost to hire someone to tape and mud? Say, 1 floor, 800 square feet, 10 foot ceilings? How about to do it all?

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Originally Posted By: wetdog
I charge more if Joe homeowner hangs it
Because its never done right


X 2


Eh...wot?
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It takes a lil practice. More So to be fast and efficient, but to just have a decent looking job you can pull it off. Also it takes tools, knives,pans, tape, sanding blocks. In the end you may want to hire it but it can be done yourself.

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If you remove trim then you have to make 1/2" extension jambs for all windows and doors.
45$ a board
And that's because your a tman member

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And I want to clarify, I mean no disrespect to drywallers. I just have more time than money, and have grown up fixing anything that needed to be fixed, minor electrical, minor plumbing, building sheds, building fence, so it's only natural for me to want to try to do it myself.

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Does any of your friends do drywall?
Ask for help,feed them. And beer will help to have them hang around.

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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: wetdog] #6155093
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Originally Posted By: wetdog
I charge more if Joe homeowner hangs it
Because its never done right


BINGO.!!!

"IF" you are going to do it, use full sheets on the ceiling first (eliminating butt joints), and keep the bevel TIGHT. Then "if" possible, stand the walls up, and same, same, keep.the bevels.tight. if you for some reason cannot run them vertical..., well in small rooms, run them horizontal and push your first sheets upntight against the ceillings. Run the bottom course bevel to bevel up ahainst the top sheet. But only do it that way "IF" the rooms are small enough too do one wall with one length, 14' or whatever.

Then, for you, buy the self stick mesh tape. And tape the bevels and wall to ceiling joint. Keep the wall to ceiling tape tucked into the 90 ceiling to wall joint.

Next, skim, and I mean "SKIM" your first coat of mud ovet the taped joint. Do NOT go heavy with that coat (or any other).
Then once dry, knock the buggars off with sand paper, or sand sponge.
Apply next coat. Again,Do NOT go heavy with the mud. And sand again.
Repeat.

By the end, you should be able to run a wide 10" knife over the final coats (you are looking at 4-5 thin coats.)
Take your knife, once final coat is done, and place the edge at 90 to the wall, spanning the joint. Look to see that you don't have a bump, tetter totter, or a valley.

Prime, and paint.




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Thanks for all the tips guys! Hopefully I can figure it out if I go for it!

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I would have a professional look at it to see if it would be easier to stabilize what you have and repair it. Then you can decide if you can tackle it yourself. I would not even think of going over it with sheet rock if it cannot be stabilized. If it cannot, you are looking at tearing out the old and start from scratch with sheet rock.

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Originally Posted By: Eric B
How many of you have done it? Hanging it is piece of cake, but taping and mudding? Bought a small fixer upper, with plaster cracking on several walls. Was thinking of just throwing drywall over top of the plaster. Want to put asmuch work into it as I can to save labor costs. Talked to a drywall guy I know and he said if I want it to look good, don't be cheap and hire it done. That true? I'm sure there's tricks and artistry that come with time, but is it really THAT hard?

Depends on what you're idea of looking good means to you. I am a builder and I have done a lot of drywall. It is that hard. If it wasn't there would be no need for it to be a professional occupation. Sure you can slap up some board, put mesh tape on (which in my opinion is worthless) then slather some mud over it and sand your happy behind off. You might end up with a mediocre job and be happy with it. Are you looking in there or selling? If selling hire it out


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Get a pro in there if you want it done right.

Originally Posted By: keets
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