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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155151
02/12/18 02:26 AM
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You can do it yourself if you just research the steps involved it's not Rocket science, I spent 18 years in the construction trade doing remodel and new construction if we hired out drywalling it was to hang not finish most finishers around us where hacks and got tired of calling them back to fix joints. when I got done with a room you could not find a flaw in the room .I will tell you one thing to do is remove all plaster from walls and ceiling if you try to hang drywall over plaster it usually crumbels between the two and causes blow outs or a lumpy wall,you can leave the lathe on the walls just scrape the lathe after removing the plaster then hang over the lathe.


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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155155
02/12/18 02:30 AM
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Remember you will need to move all your electrical out by the thickness of your GWB.

One tip..........if you do it yourself, paint it with FLAT paint. Otherwise it will look like heck no matter how good you thought it was.


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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155165
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Drywall and mudding is so cheap. Hire a crew that does both. They will be done in less than a week. If youíve never done it before, youíre gonna have a ton of lines showing once itís painted.
If you donít care about tape lines and missed dents in the drywall then do it yourself.


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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155167
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One trick for a beginner shadow the joint with a work light it will show all flaws before you paint the wall.


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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155175
02/12/18 02:41 AM
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How soon are you thinking of getting started? I hung/finished rock for a few years and have most of the tools you would need, but some are still back in NE. My shoulders are shot now, but I'm sure I could explain how to do it well enough. PM me if I can help you out.


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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: keets] #6155179
02/12/18 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted By: keets
You could spend 2-3 weeks trying to do what a skilled guy can do in 3 days


Ditto


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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155181
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Done it, hate it! But could never afford to pay someone to do what I could do myself.


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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: wwc] #6155186
02/12/18 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted By: wwc
One trick for a beginner shadow the joint with a work light it will show all flaws before you paint the wall.


^^^^^^^^^^this ^^^^^^^


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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155187
02/12/18 02:49 AM
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If you are very picky, let a pro do it.

If you have lots of time- Take your time. Be sure the screws or nails are the right depth. Hang it as neatly as you can and don't take shortcuts, hoping to fill it with mud.
Go light on the first coats. I think first timers use too much mud most of the time. It will take you more sanding and filling than guys who have done lots of it.
And, as said above, use lots of light to show imperfections that need filled or high spots that need sanded.
Done be surprised at how long it takes you.

I think your better of stripping the old plaster rather than trying to go over it.

BTW, I'm no pro but I've done lots of dry wall and I still hate finishing it.

Re: DIY Drywall [Re: lebowski] #6155237
02/12/18 03:35 AM
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I have had over 30 years in the trade, but my advice may be worthless. Standing sheetrock vertically is not a good idea. The studs would have to be laid out on 16 inch centers and be plumb or you will wind up with strips without a factory edge.
Mesh tape may be OK for flat taping smalll areas but if there are a lot of seams paper tape is much better. If you try mesh tape on ANY corner you are going to wind up with wrinkles. Additionally, you will cut mesh tape with your taping knife when wiping it down.
Plaster walls & ceiling? I have repaired a lot of that by taping the cracks and skim coating the whole shebang, then texturing it.
And no, don't try hanging sheetrock over the plaster.You would be letting yourself in for a lot of unexpected problems.
One last piece of advice. As others have said, "hire a professional."

Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155238
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If you want the best job pull off the old stuff even a pro will have a hard time hanging over it and making it look good. You can do it your self get on youtube for some tips or buy a book to help you get it done right. Take your time making sure things are square and hang it right get a screw gun to make it go faster and set the torque so the screws are sunk and not ripping the paper or you will have to do it over and it is better to get it done the first time. As far as the finishing you can do that also the biggest secret I can tell you is to take your time speed comes with practice. Have good light and don't try to get it done with two coats, with practice, time good light you can get a good job without much sanding. More thin coats and wider will get you a good job and without tons of dust. Don't mess with the mud going over and over trying to get it super smooth it will make a mess its all about the angle of your trowel and texture of the mud a lot like fleshing a coon, muscle memory when you get that it goes a lot better. Like cement there is a period of time when you can work it and when you need to let it set. If you have good air circulation it will set up faster as the more your doing the higher the humidity. In short you can do it have some confidence and take some time I think you will be happy with the job. No way would I lay it over old drywall or plaster board it will not work well.

Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155241
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Here's a product that I like for inside/outside and obtuse/acute corners.

https://www.all-wall.com/Categories/Drywall-Corner-Tape/No-Coat-Ultraflex-325.html


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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155244
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It sounds like you want to give it a try and that is not a big job. Take this for what it is worth no one that has responded thinks you should try to go over the mess you have now. That is good advice, also you might want to redo wiring or plumbing or insulate when you have it off. If your wanting to save money who doesn't strip it and higher some one to hang and tape it. The removal is the hardest part of it and it just take a couple tools and strong back but no way try to hang over what you have. How picky are you as far as the job is it where your living, are you flipping the house or renting it. If you want a top notch job hire it 800 square feet is a really small job , if you do it your self hang it right and if the finish job does not come out great you can texture it to cover some of the flaws. If you what a smooth finish really nice and have good lighting best have someone hang it and finish it.

Re: DIY Drywall [Re: wetdog] #6155270
02/12/18 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: wetdog
I charge more if Joe homeowner hangs it
Because its never done right
Same here, usually they say things like "hanging it is a piece of cake ".


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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155273
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If the home owner hangs it, I have to fix it by the hour. If I hang it, or line up a hanger I'm willing to follow with mud, then, we all work by the square foot . It just that simple.


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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155279
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Did drywall for years and hanging it makes a big difference in how hard or easy it finishes. Putting drywall over plaster doesnít sound like a good idea to me. If u have the time you say do it right tear everything off, hang it tight, 3 or 4 light coats of feathered out and sanded well between each coat. Thereís definitely an art to getting it done fast and efficient BUT if time and care is taken you can come away with a beautiful finished product. Goodluck to you


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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155306
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As far as finishing look at doing knockdown on the walls. Wish I had of had it done when I hired out my drywall. Cost the same as a regular finish job. Looks great too.


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Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155313
02/12/18 10:41 AM
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Thanks for all the tips guys! I'll be living there for a few years, then looking to sell. I'll plan on pulling out the old plaster, as some of you have suggested. May get a quote on it at that point and see just how expensive it would be to have it done, and go from there. Thanks!

Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B] #6155320
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sounds like you have read what everyone has said an have a good plan take off blaster an go from there

Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Rimrock1] #6155327
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Originally Posted By: Rimrock1
I have had over 30 years in the trade, but my advice may be worthless. Standing sheetrock vertically is not a good idea.


This. I've always hung sheetrock on walls horizontally, never vertically. That way you have one horizontal seam at waist level as opposed to multiple floor to ceiling vertical seams to finish.


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