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#6155419 - 02/12/18 07:39 AM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
Macthediver Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
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Loc: La Crosse, WI
If your going to take the time to pull the plaster might as well pull the lathes too. My guess is if that is plaster lathe you got little or nothing for insulation in the walls. Unless there was some blown in from outside at some point?? Them Old homes can be a money pit once you start pulling things apart. I know if I was going remove plaster down to the lath the big mess is made so lath is nothing at that time.
Are you really thinking just dry wall? or room by room remodel? something to think about.


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#6155439 - 02/12/18 07:55 AM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
btomlin Offline
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Registered: 12/01/16
Posts: 144
Loc: Iowa
I did the drywall when I finished our basement. I wasn’t on a time schedule and had gotten a “short course” from a friend that has done a lot of remodel projects. It turned out good but I do have a couple ceiling butt joint f-ups, but so far I’m the only one that has noticed them....other than my teacher.

In the end, I would agree with the others. Hire it done. Mine turned out ok, but it was a 3 week ordeal between working at paying job and working on nonpaying drywall job. My wife found me standing in the corner of our bedroom one night "sleep mudding". Sleep mudding is when you are so sick of mudding drywall you act out your worst nightmare in your sleep. My hats off to drywallers.


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#6155473 - 02/12/18 08:25 AM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: wetdog]
proratman Offline
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Registered: 09/04/12
Posts: 1315
Loc: New York
Originally Posted By: wetdog
I charge more if Joe homeowner hangs it
Because its never done right

That's for sure. It is much easier to tape your own drywall than from someone who hung it and then ran with the money.

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#6155483 - 02/12/18 08:37 AM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
proratman Offline
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Registered: 09/04/12
Posts: 1315
Loc: New York
One thing on taping, make sure there is 100% coverage of spackle under your paper tape or it will blister up.

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#6155485 - 02/12/18 08:40 AM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
wetdog Offline
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Registered: 10/07/17
Posts: 963
Loc: perry co.Pa
Eric save those laths.
They are great for 110s. Fit inside the spring very nicely. And sorry if I was a little short with you. When tearing out the plaster. Fans blowing out windows,and a mask at all times. You never know what might be in that plaster. Good luck

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#6155509 - 02/12/18 09:10 AM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
charles Offline
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Registered: 08/28/10
Posts: 4260
Loc: Asheville, NC
Order a dumpster.

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#6155516 - 02/12/18 09:18 AM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
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Registered: 12/21/15
Posts: 253
Loc: Northern MN
My opinion is get someone in there who really knows what they’re doing that’s willing to help you with one room, like a friend or relative. The hardest part is taping and knowing how to fan out the mud at each joint. Once you know how it’s suppose to be done, the only way you get better is by doing it. The better taper you are, the less sanding you have to do....... I hate sanding.

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#6155548 - 02/12/18 09:45 AM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
rats4me Offline
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Registered: 01/02/11
Posts: 317
Loc: central mn
You may be ready to hire out the drywall and taping after doing the tear out it's a slow messy job. Good luck with your project sometimes it's not bad sometimes it can be a Pandora's box after you open things up. You will a better idea once you get the plaster and lath tore off how deep you want to go ( or may need to) wiring, insulation etc. it may be ok as is but now is the time to do it right if it's not.
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#6155596 - 02/12/18 10:42 AM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
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Registered: 01/27/12
Posts: 770
Loc: Interior Alaska
If your short on money and have lots of time repair the plaster, unless it in too bad of shape! Good place to hone your skills.
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#6155600 - 02/12/18 10:44 AM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
trapper les Offline
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Registered: 03/06/11
Posts: 16642
Loc: williams,mn
I am in a project where I tore out the plaster and lathe in a "turn of the last century" house. As it turns out, the wall studs aren't very uniform and a lot of shimming occurred under the lathe here and there, leaving an uneven wall to sheetrock. My plan is to fir out the wall horisontally with 16' x 1" x 4"s to get it flat, shimming them as necessary , and then hang my sheetrock vertically, standing it up. That way the not standard stud layout wont matter. I'll do the same thing with the ceiling. As I do this, I am bat proofing the whole works.

A little gal from CO bought this cheap old house, for a fixerupper dream home/nightmare. She has "some" buyer's remorse, lol. I tore out the lathe, burned it in the yard and through the plaster under the new deck.
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#6155658 - 02/12/18 11:59 AM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
beltrami trapper Offline
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Registered: 11/25/12
Posts: 1510
Loc: northern minnesota
Have done a few like that myself les, a new nightmare around every corner lol Last one I did had some walls with wood shavings as insulation, other walls had shredded newspaper and some had none at all still. The upstairs ceilings were lathe/plaster and wood shavings packed tight in between rafters and roof deck made up of random width 1" pine,popple,tamarack and maple boards. Roof had been leaking so all the upstairs got redone, as well as a new roof deck and fixing about half of the rafters! Turned out pretty nice though, guy bought it under $40,000 2 years ago and sold it this fall at $119,000.

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#6155664 - 02/12/18 12:13 PM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
trapper les Offline
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Registered: 03/06/11
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Loc: williams,mn
This gal bought it from the bank for $15,000. It had the insulation/stud bays filled with cellulose, and then sided with that old 12" Masonite. I can see the blow in holes in the exterior sheating boards. I ditched all the cellulose and will replace with fiberglass.
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#6155678 - 02/12/18 12:35 PM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: trapper les]
rats4me Offline
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Registered: 01/02/11
Posts: 317
Loc: central mn
Originally Posted By: trapper les
This gal bought it from the bank for $15,000. It had the insulation/stud bays filled with cellulose, and then sided with that old 12" Masonite. I can see the blow in holes in the exterior sheating boards. I ditched all the cellulose and will replace with fiberglass.


Ugh!! You did get into a mess you must have a little dust cloud around you when you go home at night lol
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#6155682 - 02/12/18 12:38 PM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
trapper les Offline
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Registered: 03/06/11
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Loc: williams,mn
Messy for sure. I wore a mask and did it in stages. The lathe and plaster came off easily enough leaving the "settled" cellulose standing in the bays, for the most part. First thing I did was get most of the plaster off, then the lathe, and finally the cellulose got shoveled and swept up and bagged.
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#6155689 - 02/12/18 12:42 PM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1773
Loc: Pa
The ones like that here, if two story or story and a half, are balloon framed and need fire breaks. I just did one. I advertised for a "free weight loss program" (to help me).
No takers there.

Plaster went to drainage ditch fill and lathe went through the stove.

I'd hang the board horizontal even if 10 foot high walls but that's me, you do whatever you want cause you are going to anyways lol.
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#6155695 - 02/12/18 12:51 PM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
trapper les Offline
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Registered: 03/06/11
Posts: 16642
Loc: williams,mn
I would go horizontal if the dimensional lumber had been uniform....lol. But it's not, and pieces missing, jogged and filled in here and there, and not on layout. The last thing I want to do is hang sheetrock vertically. It is a balloon framed, story and a half affair, And it's getting fire blocks throughout. It's a nightmare in progress .
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#6155703 - 02/12/18 12:57 PM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
The Beav Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 14006
Loc: Wisconsin
Hang It vertically then nail a batten board over the joints and forget the mudding and taping.
Take some 1X3s cut 45 degree angles on the edges then nail them In the Inside corners.

Or do a half azzed job of taping and then hire some one to come In and spray on a orange peel finish. That will cover up just about all your mistakes.
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#6155706 - 02/12/18 01:01 PM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
trapper les Offline
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Registered: 03/06/11
Posts: 16642
Loc: williams,mn
I can sell a knock down textured finish cheaper than a smooth wall, or at least it's easier to do. She wants smooth, flat, and perfect.

She's my little Sugar Momma from Colorado, lol.
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#6155794 - 02/12/18 02:54 PM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
garman Offline
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Registered: 11/09/07
Posts: 1134
Loc: minnesota
I have hung it myself with no real guidance. The basement came out good, and the garage ok (but I was not as picky about the garage. I would hire the ceiling done personally. I did not do a good job taping and mudding the ceiling in the garage. If I would have had it orange peeled it would have looked very professional. LOL
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#6155798 - 02/12/18 02:59 PM Re: DIY Drywall [Re: Eric B]
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Registered: 12/23/06
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Loc: Wisconsin
Yep those spray on textured finishes make the do It yourselfer look good.
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