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Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem #6156156
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Hello. One of my property lines(on a farm) has no marking at all other than the 2 corners. There is no line of site between the two. A string can't be used as it is heavily wooded with little pole size trees/can't see more than 20 yards in spots. I do not have a GPS nor know of someone that does. I also do not have a smart phone but my kids do. QUESTION: Is there some kind of app. that will allow me to mark the location of the first corner, go to the end corner and mark it, then it takes you on a straight line back to the first? This way I could cut a path through the woods to have an approximate property line. Thank you for your time.

Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: TurkeyTime] #6156869
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Anyone. Anyone. Bueller. Bueller.

Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: TurkeyTime] #6156882
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Topo map and compass, take a bearing and go....check bearing often and mark the trail. Be sure to allow for magnetic declination.


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Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: TurkeyTime] #6156904
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County Surveyor.

Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: TurkeyTime] #6156909
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OnXhunt is an app that will give a free 7 day trial. It will show you property lines, state, public and private property. I use it and pay a subscription. I can go virtually anywhere I want and open the app to see who's land I am on. Of course I use anywhere loosely because you do have to have data available to get all the app to function. I highly recommend this app to anyone who spends time in the woods.


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Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: TurkeyTime] #6156912
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Probably. The Onyx hunt app shows property lines as per the tax maps. Actually pretty accurate and costs $30 per year per state. I do this sort of thing a lot with other technology, so I have not tried the app for that. But I bet that sort of app is available and works a lot better than a compass.

Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: Marty] #6156920
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Originally Posted By: Marty
Topo map and compass, take a bearing and go....check bearing often and mark the trail. Be sure to allow for magnetic declination.


This...


http://www.delawaretrappersinc.com/

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Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: TurkeyTime] #6156923
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Ordinary stuff is not accurate enough to build fence or go to court with is it? Last time I asked the surveyor said gps took several hours to establish any degree of accuracy. =/- 10 yards?

Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: Marty] #6156930
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Originally Posted By: Marty
Topo map and compass, take a bearing and go....check bearing often and mark the trail. Be sure to allow for magnetic declination.
And year that land was surveyed because it changes with time.

Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: TurkeyTime] #6156932
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I worked for guy that was always saying "There's an app for that" Whenever a problem came up. Of course he never meant an app on a phone, he always figured some wacky scheme that somehow managed to get the job done.

Point of story, a topo map and compass should work just fine. You can get a compass for as cheap as 10 dollars, and if you print a topo map all it usually costs you is a little ink and paper.


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Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: TurkeyTime] #6156943
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If you already have two corners established, as stated above a compass is your best avenue short of having a licensed surveyor mark the line. You can run a bearing from one corner, flagging with ribbon and when you come out at the other corner you will miss it some. How far you miss it depends on how good your bearing was. Again as stated adjust for declination. They are never exactly 90, 180, 270, or 360 degrees. You can then adjust your bearing a little and run the line back to the starting point. You can get your line pretty close using this method. As far as a phone app Avenza pdf maps is free and allows you to download topomaps and you can go to each corner, drop a pin, draw a line between the two pins and save the line. As far as I can tell the gps capabilities on iPhones and the ordinary hand held GPS receivers are abuot the same as far as accuracy. Neither is anywhere close to being accurate enough to survey with, they just get you close.

Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: tjm] #6156947
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Originally Posted By: tjm
Originally Posted By: Marty
Topo map and compass, take a bearing and go....check bearing often and mark the trail. Be sure to allow for magnetic declination.
And year that land was surveyed because it changes with time.

It doesnít matter what year it was surveyed as long as they used the correct declination at the time. You donít want to use the declination it was surveyed with, you want to use the current declination.

Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: TurkeyTime] #6156950
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Yes ON X map APP is the way to go.

Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: TurkeyTime] #6157371
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ON X hunt maps are great, but property lines it depicts are based on tax map info. That will get you in the ball park but not a substitute for an actual survey.

Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: TurkeyTime] #6157577
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I have a GPS that is accurate to less than a meter in about 1 minute. It is issued and costs about 3500.00 IF you could buy it. Quite a bit of other military stuff is just as accurate- I think open market is limited in accuracy for security reasons.

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Good luck Turkey Time. You can join the ranks of those who have done a little surveying in the past. I've met quite a few of those people and have done a little surveying myself.

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Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: TurkeyTime] #6157697
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A lensatic compass seems like the perfect tool for this job. In fact, I think it would be much better than a gps for this purpose.

I do geocaching with an older model Garmin gps and it will accurately provide a location within a few feet instantaneously. At least it is accurate to the same point as the person who left the geocache and marked the co-ordinates on their GPS.

But if I were wanting to approximately mark a straight line between two known corner markers, I still think a compass would be more effective


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Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: TurkeyTime] #6157987
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Originally Posted By: TurkeyTime
Hello. One of my property lines(on a farm) has no marking at all other than the 2 corners. There is no line of site between the two. A string can't be used as it is heavily wooded with little pole size trees/can't see more than 20 yards in spots. I do not have a GPS nor know of someone that does. I also do not have a smart phone but my kids do. QUESTION: Is there some kind of app. that will allow me to mark the location of the first corner, go to the end corner and mark it, then it takes you on a straight line back to the first? This way I could cut a path through the woods to have an approximate property line. Thank you for your time.


Some of the answers are funny. If it was easy states would not require a license to do it. With more information I'll give some tips. How far apart are the existing corners? How's the terrain? BTW: I draw a paycheck for making GPS Accurate to 1 cm (< 0.5").

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Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: TurkeyTime] #6158123
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Can't be very difficult if all you need is a smart phone with an On X Hunt app.


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Re: Cell phone/GPS/woods navigation ?/problem [Re: TurkeyTime] #6158162
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Simple just tell neighbor to put their fence up. Walla property line established.

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