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#6156662 - 02/13/18 01:02 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Taximan]
TNcat Offline
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Registered: 01/01/13
Posts: 949
Loc: Middle Tennessee
Originally Posted By: Taximan
Originally Posted By: trappergbus
Not enough trash clearance and the steel used is low grade, springs aren't music wire. I now a trapper that has lost 15 yotes in the last 2 seasons in Duke 3s full modified 4 coils. Saw the traps with my own eyes, short leg hair in the jaws.. Maybe we have super strain coyotes LOL..

He's lost 0 in MB 550os and KOs.


Not sure what happened there,trappergbus.I haven't come close to losing a coyote in a 2 coiled,Duke 3,or anything else for that matter.Mine are only about 3 years old and I understand they beefed them up so maybe we are comparing new to old.I'm not pushing them but they have worked for me.I'm a fan of the 550 too.


I canít understand anyone having pull outs with any traps made this day and age ( coyote traps) . I have never lost a coyote out of any of my traps. Bunch of coyotes in #3 Dukes. I understand toe caught ..might pull out.
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#6156664 - 02/13/18 01:08 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel]
TNcat Offline
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Loc: Middle Tennessee
I have #3 Dukes, Victor round and square jaws , Sleepy Creek #4 Vic/ Montgomery, KB 5.5 , Jakes.
I have used MB 550, 650 and #3 Bridger in the past with no problems.
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#6156746 - 02/13/18 03:03 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel]
danny clifton Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 10131
Loc: williamsburg ks
Why don't you offer Derek 80 a doz plus shipping for his square jaw 2 dukes? I bet he takes it.
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#6156759 - 02/13/18 03:19 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: danny clifton]
TNcat Offline
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Loc: Middle Tennessee
Originally Posted By: danny clifton
Why don't you offer Derek 80 a doz plus shipping for his square jaw 2 dukes? I bet he takes it.


I despise the hexagon shaped jaws of any brand ...

Only had 3- #3 Bridger I got in a trade ..


Edited by TNcat (02/13/18 03:21 PM)
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#6156765 - 02/13/18 03:24 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel]
derek masenthin Offline
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Registered: 02/14/14
Posts: 51
Loc: eastern ks

Not sure what happened there,trappergbus.I haven't come close to losing a coyote in a 2 coiled,Duke 3,or anything else for that matter.Mine are only about 3 years old and I understand they beefed them up so maybe we are comparing new to old.I'm not pushing them but they have worked for me.I'm a fan of the 550 too. [/quote]

I canít understand anyone having pull outs with any traps made this day and age ( coyote traps) . I have never lost a coyote out of any of my traps. Bunch of coyotes in #3 Dukes. I understand toe caught ..might pull out. [/quote]

How many coyotes have you trapped? Roughly?

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#6156771 - 02/13/18 03:33 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel]
TNcat Offline
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Registered: 01/01/13
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Loc: Middle Tennessee
100ís Derek

I did lose a cat out of a #3 Duke rubber jaw trap 4 or 5 years ago..more my fault then the traps.
Caught that cat two years later...


Edited by TNcat (02/13/18 03:41 PM)
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#6156775 - 02/13/18 03:45 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel]
derek masenthin Offline
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Registered: 02/14/14
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Loc: eastern ks
Please tell me how you know it was the same cat? If you've caught 100s of coyotes and haven't had a pull you are the best coyote trapper ever or your a lier just sayin

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#6156807 - 02/13/18 04:18 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: derek masenthin]
TNcat Offline
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Loc: Middle Tennessee
Originally Posted By: derek masenthin
Please tell me how you know it was the same cat? If you've caught 100s of coyotes and haven't had a pull you are the best coyote trapper ever or your a lier just sayin


Ií M NO LIAR ...most coyote trappers donít have pullouts. Not many anyway. Iím sure I have missed some..but thatís not a pull out. If coyotes here are worth anything I wouldíve caught more. By far not the best coyote trapper .

Reason I know it was the same cat ... by his toes on the right foot.
Surely you can figure that out ..

I have never seen traps like you showed in pictures of #3 Montanaís .. that bad of shape.

I hope you get traps that work for you !!!
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#6156815 - 02/13/18 04:32 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel]
derek masenthin Offline
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Registered: 02/14/14
Posts: 51
Loc: eastern ks
How do know the cat wasn't caught the first time by his left foot?

Your saying since most coyote trappers don't have many pullouts then your putting your self higher then most coyote trappers since you've had no pullouts ?

How much do you charge for trapping instruction?

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#6156829 - 02/13/18 04:45 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel]
TNcat Offline
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Registered: 01/01/13
Posts: 949
Loc: Middle Tennessee
I answered all your questions in my last post.

But the cost of instructions...I would never give instructions. Lol
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#6156833 - 02/13/18 04:49 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel]
TNcat Offline
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Registered: 01/01/13
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Loc: Middle Tennessee
Derek donít get all bent shape because youíre having troubles with some traps ..
Thinking you have figured out now.. have a good night.
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#6156834 - 02/13/18 04:50 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Taximan]
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Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 2570
Loc: Southern Michigan
Originally Posted By: Taximan
Originally Posted By: trappergbus
Not enough trash clearance and the steel used is low grade, springs aren't music wire. I now a trapper that has lost 15 yotes in the last 2 seasons in Duke 3s full modified 4 coils. Saw the traps with my own eyes, short leg hair in the jaws.. Maybe we have super strain coyotes LOL..

He's lost 0 in MB 550os and KOs.


Not sure what happened there,trappergbus.I haven't come close to losing a coyote in a 2 coiled,Duke 3,or anything else for that matter.Mine are only about 3 years old and I understand they beefed them up so maybe we are comparing new to old.I'm not pushing them but they have worked for me.I'm a fan of the 550 too.


I didn't believe it until I saw it with my own eyes, the fellow thought he was orienting the trap wrong, I said huh, no way to dictate that. Like I said we must have super strain coyotes. they are full mod 4 coils. His are the square jawed #4s


Edited by trappergbus (02/13/18 04:57 PM)
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#6156854 - 02/13/18 05:07 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel]
derek masenthin Offline
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Registered: 02/14/14
Posts: 51
Loc: eastern ks
I'd put my money on the traps that made in China not performing well not super strain coyotes

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#6156867 - 02/13/18 05:23 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel]
trappergbus Offline
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Registered: 04/04/12
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Loc: Southern Michigan
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#6156870 - 02/13/18 05:26 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel]
Wright Brothers Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1588
Loc: Pa
"His are the square jawed #4s"
"3s full modified 4 coils."

Bus, 3s or 4s? I do not have much confidence in the large SQs I have, they are American made but do have some age and newer springs.
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#6156885 - 02/13/18 05:51 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: derek masenthin]
The Beav Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 12501
Loc: Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: derek masenthin
I'd put my money on the traps that made in China not performing well not super strain coyotes


Do you have any Montana's or Bridgers?

The Montana's are made In China. And Unless something has changed since MB has bought out Bridger they were made In china.

Both traps are of good quality.
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#6156907 - 02/13/18 06:26 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel]
derek masenthin Offline
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Registered: 02/14/14
Posts: 51
Loc: eastern ks
No montanas ridded myself of them. They were made of poor metal just the duke sq jaw #2 I have the jaws bent after coyote catches. I have 10 #3 bridgers that have not had any issues but there also 10 yrs old and haven't been used in 5 yrs

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#6156941 - 02/13/18 06:57 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel]
danny clifton Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 10131
Loc: williamsburg ks
My old 3 bridgers been used every year since I bought them in MN at a NTA convention. Not the last one in MN the one before that. Whatever year that was. I replaced the springs with music wire after a while. I 4 coiled base plated and laminated them. Been good traps. Heres a picture from about a month ago still doing what they are supposed to do.

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#6156971 - 02/13/18 07:19 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Wright Brothers]
trappergbus Offline
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Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 2570
Loc: Southern Michigan
Originally Posted By: Wright Brothers
"His are the square jawed #4s"
"3s full modified 4 coils."

Bus, 3s or 4s? I do not have much confidence in the large SQs I have, they are American made but do have some age and newer springs.


They are the #4 square jaws offsets, lamed with 3/16th round lams, base plated, 4 coiled 8 inches of chain with a mid chain crunch proof to the anchor point. There wasn't much of a catch circle on the one I witnessed. My theory is the trap didn't lock up fast enough or not enough trash clearence. May be wrong, real head scratcher. The ones he held were buried in it.


Edited by trappergbus (02/13/18 07:22 PM)
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#6156998 - 02/13/18 07:44 PM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel]
Wright Brothers Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1588
Loc: Pa
Deer give traps a bad wrap, not saying that's what happened there.

Couple weeks ago I set some smoking hot sign, waited, waited, finally walked down to sprung sets. I Was about to bark. I back tracked to the high bank at road crossing, sure enough, deer tracks. I'll get on those buggers next time.
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