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#6156673 - 02/13/18 01:23 PM Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps
charles Offline
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Registered: 08/28/10
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Loc: Asheville, NC
What is your opinion of replacing food stamps with boxed food deliveries? Should be good for farmers as a way to move commodity surpluses. WalMart takes one fith of all food stamps. They will oppose the program.

Bothers me to see SNAP cards used to purchase foods I cant justify for my family.

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#6156675 - 02/13/18 01:27 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles]
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#6156685 - 02/13/18 01:48 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles]
Law Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 14164
Loc: Central, SD
EBT is a very abused program bought and sold for .20 on the dollar cash to buy drugs and alcohol~
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#6156693 - 02/13/18 02:16 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles]
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Registered: 12/22/06
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Loc: Oakland, MS
I remember back in the 60's even they had canned meat, evaporated milk,cheese and many other foods available. I am not sure why that was ended but few now days know how to cook compared to back then.

Government should NEVER be the keeper of the population but we as a whole have allowed this to happen. Charity used to be handled by the churches.
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#6156694 - 02/13/18 02:18 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles]
Fishdog One Offline
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Registered: 08/11/10
Posts: 100
Loc: Southern Wisconsin
Big Sugar lobby is all about candy, soda, bakery product being included on the card. My Dad is 91 and lives on Social Security and gets $15 dollars a month, he should have 5 kids living in his apartment with him, he would get more.
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#6156698 - 02/13/18 02:19 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles]
Mike in A-town Offline
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Registered: 09/29/13
Posts: 6580
Loc: Northeast Oklahoma
Originally Posted By: charles
What is your opinion of replacing food stamps with boxed food deliveries? Should be good for farmers as a way to move commodity surpluses. WalMart takes one fith of all food stamps. They will oppose the program.

Bothers me to see SNAP cards used to purchase foods I cant justify for my family.


This used to be how it was done. I have no issue with giving out beans, rice, flour, etc... Commodities that have very little value other than nutritional. And I have no issue putting conditions on receipt of those commodities.

I do have an issue with the taxpayers money going to fund extravagant meals with no accountability.

In the old testament God made it perfectly acceptable for travelers to wander into your fields and eat their fill. But they couldn't take a single kernel of grain with them when they left. People didn't go hungry, but abuse wasn't possible.

We need to figure out a way to feed hungry people without condoning a shiftless lifestyle.

Mike
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#6156701 - 02/13/18 02:20 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles]
Law Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
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Loc: Central, SD
Those commodities are death in a can/box all salt and starch in most of them but like anything you can "learn" to eat the stuff but it will never be good for you.

I would not feed that stuff to my chickens!


Edited by Law Dog (02/13/18 02:22 PM)
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#6156703 - 02/13/18 02:22 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles]
Marty Offline
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Registered: 01/13/14
Posts: 10355
Loc: North East Kansas
What is the time limit for this type of 'help'?

6-9 months and then it should end unless its an extreme case......really pees me off to see so many very well dressed and obviously well fed folks using this type of payment. I have seen a few that walk outside and get in a brand new vehicle and drive away.

Some of us scrape by on our own......maybe we are the stupid ones?
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#6156707 - 02/13/18 02:25 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Law Dog]
M.Magis Offline
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Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 1042
Loc: S.E. Ohio
Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Those commodities are death in a can/box all salt and starch in most of them but like anything you can "learn" to eat the stuff but it will never be good for you.

I would not feed that stuff to my chickens!

I don't see a link explaining what would be handed out, so what are you referring to?

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#6156709 - 02/13/18 02:26 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles]
Mike in A-town Offline
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Registered: 09/29/13
Posts: 6580
Loc: Northeast Oklahoma
Last I knew, the Cherokees still pass out commodities to members of their tribe.

It's good stuff made with real ingredients. Their Mac n' Cheese blows Kraft's garbage out of the water.

I'm just a poor working white stiff... So I have to budget and make good choices about what I eat.

Hard to screw up a bag of pinto beans.

Mike
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#6156710 - 02/13/18 02:28 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles]
Law Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 14164
Loc: Central, SD
There must be different grades of commodities the stuff they hand out is nasty but the youth academy I worked at was considered "Non-profit" somehow and the stuff they got was a better grade you would be surprised what came off of that truck as a commodity. Meats, salad dressings, cheese and a lot more some was pretty good stuff, they never got the canned meats for some reason.

I had the same Government boxes but seemed like better stuff.
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#6156713 - 02/13/18 02:30 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: M.Magis]
Law Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 14164
Loc: Central, SD
Originally Posted By: M.Magis
Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Those commodities are death in a can/box all salt and starch in most of them but like anything you can "learn" to eat the stuff but it will never be good for you.

I would not feed that stuff to my chickens!

I don't see a link explaining what would be handed out, so what are you referring to?



Find a can of meat products and try to eat some it will answer your question, does everything need a link? LOL

Look up the diabetes and High blood pressure numbers on the Indian reservations that might answer you question too.


Edited by Law Dog (02/13/18 02:35 PM)
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#6156722 - 02/13/18 02:38 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles]
Tweed Offline
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Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 3660
Loc: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
I can see the pros to this that it could reduce the amount of fraud or abuse but it seems like any savings seen from that would be offset by the cost of distributing.

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#6156724 - 02/13/18 02:40 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles]
Hydropillar Offline
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Registered: 03/06/10
Posts: 968
Loc: South Dakota
maybe trump will be like regan and give out some gubermint cheese :}... that was some good stuff had grill cheese n mater soup for long time... dang i miss them days

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#6156742 - 02/13/18 02:57 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles]
Law Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 14164
Loc: Central, SD
If you have ever been in a SD jail at meal time you would see the negative effect commodities have on people that depended on them, it is common practice to cover everything with salt and then blacken it with pepper to get to the level they are accustom to.

Not sure what they get now on the Rez but the kids at the Academy had a lot of commodity jokes and saying it was a big part of their lives that still impacts them today.
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#6156750 - 02/13/18 03:08 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Drifter]
tjm Offline
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Registered: 11/11/11
Posts: 7778
Loc: SWMo.
Originally Posted By: Drifter
I remember back in the 60's even they had canned meat, evaporated milk,cheese and many other foods available. I am not sure why that was ended but few now days know how to cook compared to back then.
Best I recall that program was ended because it cost so much to operate.
Government paid trucks, drivers, warehouse men, warehouses, distribution facilities, local administrators; there was an industry in commodity transportation and handling that made a ponud of pinto beans cost as much as three pounds of Porterhouse.

Euthanization, eugenics and sterilization of all who fail to meet economic standards is the only solution. Forget all this save the children stuff, they are contributing nothing. Face it in honesty, no one outside of our personal circles of family, religion, or political views should be allowed to reproduce or to influence future society by raising children.
As Jackson said, "Nits make lice" so start by sterilizing all welfare applicants and all their children over the age of twelve. Then euthanize all second time applicants or first time applicants over the age of forty. Set a "poverty level of 100,000 and limit anyone under that level to only one child or two children with IQ levels of 140 or greater.
Reevaluate every five years to determine if adjustments are needed.
Exempt all redheaded people from the controls programs, redheads are to be the most desirable future genetic marker.

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#6156753 - 02/13/18 03:09 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles]
Rye Offline
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Registered: 10/31/07
Posts: 4241
Loc: havelock, NC
The concept is sound. But it would have to be intensively managed and there are a lot of questions left to be answered. One thing I'd implement is that the companies providing the "meals" could only be responsible for X amount of meals per day. This allows them to maintain quality in what they are putting together and ensuring that fresh foods are being delivered. It also opens the door for a new expanding market in which multiple companies could get on board and begin working, thus increasing employment and increasing the use of domestically produced seasonal foods. If you are trying to make them eat healthier, you have to use fresher foods and "Shelf stable milk" should NEVER be an option for anyone. I was given that crap in the Marines and it was death in a box.

I do like the idea though, give them healthier food, with options for consideration of allergies, and cut down on the black market EBT cards.


Edited by Rye (02/13/18 03:11 PM)
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#6156754 - 02/13/18 03:10 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Tweed]
tjm Offline
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Registered: 11/11/11
Posts: 7778
Loc: SWMo.
Originally Posted By: Tweed
I can see the pros to this that it could reduce the amount of fraud or abuse but it seems like any savings seen from that would be offset by the cost of distributing.

That was the result back then. But it did create jobs and expand the government bureaucracy.

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#6156755 - 02/13/18 03:13 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: tjm]
Ryan McLeod Offline
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Registered: 02/09/14
Posts: 1447
Loc: NWT
Originally Posted By: tjm
Originally Posted By: Drifter
I remember back in the 60's even they had canned meat, evaporated milk,cheese and many other foods available. I am not sure why that was ended but few now days know how to cook compared to back then.
Best I recall that program was ended because it cost so much to operate.
Government paid trucks, drivers, warehouse men, warehouses, distribution facilities, local administrators; there was an industry in commodity transportation and handling that made a ponud of pinto beans cost as much as three pounds of Porterhouse.

Euthanization, eugenics and sterilization of all who fail to meet economic standards is the only solution. Forget all this save the children stuff, they are contributing nothing. Face it in honesty, no one outside of our personal circles of family, religion, or political views should be allowed to reproduce or to influence future society by raising children.
As Jackson said, "Nits make lice" so start by sterilizing all welfare applicants and all their children over the age of twelve. Then euthanize all second time applicants or first time applicants over the age of forty. Set a "poverty level of 100,000 and limit anyone under that level to only one child or two children with IQ levels of 140 or greater.
Reevaluate every five years to determine if adjustments are needed.
Exempt all redheaded people from the controls programs, redheads are to be the most desirable future genetic marker.


Sounds familiar. Funny that you call it the only solution.


Edited by Ryan McLeod (02/13/18 03:15 PM)
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#6156761 - 02/13/18 03:20 PM Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Ryan McLeod]
DelawareRob Offline
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Registered: 10/22/13
Posts: 2002
Loc: Middle of Delaware
More like a final solution...


I’d like to think TJM was being a little sarcastic.


Edited by DelawareRob (02/13/18 03:21 PM)
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