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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157127
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How many are poor because of life choices?

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157136
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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Rats!] #6157138
02/13/18 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rats!
I am out of here, goodnight.
The point I am trying to make is that poor people have it rough, and I have EMPATHY.
I know that many of you are Christians and if you don't have any feelings for the less fortunate then you are not at all like Jesus.

Classic. Absolutely classic.
I appreciate the "I" statements you made. "I have empathy"...that's great, I applauded you. However, forcing other people to feed someone else at the end of a gun or prison cell isn't empathy. Government is incapable of true empathy, that is only possible in the realm of individuals.
There is a certain amount of waste and fraud that needs to acceptable in any government program. I don't know how to make it the least amount possible. I'm willing to try new things in regards to food stamps. I doubt any tweak will end with people starving to death in the street. If that were to occur, many people would experience true empathy, by feed those hungry people themselves.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157140
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I'm back. My point is, for all you fiscal conservatives out there: Anti-poverty measures are but a small part of the budget. Where is the BIG money going? To people who already have plenty. We cannot all be rich, it is impossible.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: M.Magis] #6157142
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Originally Posted By: M.Magis
Originally Posted By: Law Dog



Find a can of meat products and try to eat some it will answer your question, does everything need a link? LOL

Look up the diabetes and High blood pressure numbers on the Indian reservations that might answer you question too.

So you’re making it up. Thats what I thought. You have no idea wha they have planned.


Been living here the last 40 years working with the people that live here you might have a app for that but I have been living it!

Last edited by Law Dog; 02/13/18 11:42 PM.

Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157143
02/13/18 11:44 PM
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Wow I showed up late for the party. Lol
We could fix a lot if we just sent all the illegal imagrout and groners out of the USA. A LOT OF IT.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157148
02/13/18 11:51 PM
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There will always be those without money to buy food. It could be for a lot of reasons from just bad luck to irresponsibility to who knows what. It not only affects them but it affects their dependents, and even ME. Yes, me.

People need to eat. They will find food even if comes to stealing it, or stealing whatever to trade for it.

We need a program to keep people fed. It doesn't need to include French wine and Russian caviar. Limit the benefit to necessities. Delivering food boxes involves a lot of extra costs related to logistics. I don't believe it would be cost effective.

Soup kitchens don't make a lot more sense.

I think what we have is along the right track. But, we could do more. Teach the man to fish, so to speak. Offer, or even require training in nutrition, cooking and food economics. That won't save us from the malicious, but, would be sure to help the truly needy.

Keep the needy fed and they have that much less reason to harass me on the street.


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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157165
02/14/18 12:09 AM
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We have a local food bank that gives out food during the week many food banks all over SD but like anything else you see abuse there too.

Overall the US gives away billions here and overseas from just people and organization no strings attached.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157184
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Yes Law Dog, that is what compassionate people do.

I see people here who despise the hungry. Why is that?

What would Jesus think of that?

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157187
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Can anyone make a real Dinner for $1.50 to $1.73 ? Those old folks that have their Mortgage paid off, and still living in their own home, don't have it easy. Taxes, Utilities , Homeowners Insurance, Food and Miscellaneous expenses ; eat up most of their retirement check each Month. Then , the Government actually expects people to buy food that is healthy and tastes good. Those stores, they know when the food stamps come in. They jack their prices up that week, suckering the customers into spending more than what they normally would. But, when the Refrigerator is empty, people got to eat.

If people are so against the poor getting Food Stamps, would they be against the Government eliminating Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, SSI , SSDI, and Veterans benefits ??

Well, why not?? They are all expenditures that could be eliminated.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Rats!] #6157194
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Originally Posted By: Rats!
Yes Law Dog, that is what compassionate people do.

I see people here who despise the hungry. Why is that?

What would Jesus think of that?



You are confused . It's not the governments responsibilty . It's family and the church who should not only help those in need but teach them to care for themselves.


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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157196
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Thanks for the backup Canvasback2.

A little inspiration for the rest of you:

"...the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; those who are in the shadows of life; the sick, the needy and the handicapped. " Huber H. Humphrey

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157197
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Like I said, people make poor choices. Stay out of trouble, finish HS, don't get pregnant or get someone pregnant, don't do drugs. Live within your means and work hard, save your money. If most everyone did this we could take care of the ones that can't take care of themselves.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: tjm] #6157198
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Originally Posted By: tjm
Originally Posted By: Drifter
I remember back in the 60's even they had canned meat, evaporated milk,cheese and many other foods available. I am not sure why that was ended but few now days know how to cook compared to back then.
Best I recall that program was ended because it cost so much to operate.
Government paid trucks, drivers, warehouse men, warehouses, distribution facilities, local administrators; there was an industry in commodity transportation and handling that made a ponud of pinto beans cost as much as three pounds of Porterhouse.

Euthanization, eugenics and sterilization of all who.........
As Jackson said, "Nits make lice"


Actually it wasn't Jackson, but a guy named John Milton Chivington. Google the "Sand creek Massacre" to see what a fine specimen he was.


Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Rats!] #6157200
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Originally Posted By: Rats!
Yes Law Dog, that is what compassionate people do.

I see people here who despise the hungry. Why is that?

What would Jesus think of that?


Cut taxes for those at the top and leave the lazy poor to step up or starve.


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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: AntiGov] #6157203
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Originally Posted By: AntiGov
Originally Posted By: Rats!
Yes Law Dog, that is what compassionate people do.

I see people here who despise the hungry. Why is that?

What would Jesus think of that?



You are confused . It's not the governments responsibilty . It's family and the church who should not only help those in need but teach them to care for themselves.


REALLY?????????

And what are people in need , to do when they have NO FAMILY?? And the Churches in the Town are NOT in the Food Pantry business?? None of the Churches in my Town are giving out food!

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157204
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Rat , since you're worried what would Jesus think , remember 2 Thessalonians 3:10


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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Canvasback2] #6157207
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Originally Posted By: Canvasback2

REALLY?????????

And what are people in need , to do when they have NO FAMILY?? And the Churches in the Town are NOT in the Food Pantry business?? None of the Churches in my Town are giving out food!



Get a job man and help yourself .......don't expect your neighbor to feed you


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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: tjm] #6157208
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Originally Posted By: tjm
[quote=Drifter]

Euthanization, eugenics and sterilization of all who fail to meet economic standards is the only solution. Forget all this save the children stuff, they are contributing nothing. Face it in honesty, no one outside of our personal circles of family, religion, or political views should be allowed to reproduce or to influence future society by raising children.


Thank you Margaret Sanger........you got first........


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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157219
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Per the constitution: "a government exists for the benefit of the people". We are not an "every man for himself society". We are all in this together. It is mean-spirited to look down on someone who needs food.

Let's see a vote of who wants food denied to the hungry.

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