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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157267
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Whatever. My whole deal is please don't pick on poor people. I have been there and I did not like it. Still poor but doing better.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157268
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If you are jealous of the poor and hungry I feel sorry for you.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Rats!] #6157269
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Originally Posted By: Rats!
I think TJM was serious ==> Quote from his reply: ....
Yes and no.
The arguments both for and against all social welfare programs are circular and defeat themselves; as long as you have less fortunate people the problem will exist.
Any of those social engineering routes will end up at the same place, yours and theirs are the same.

Twas somewhat tongue in cheek though.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157270
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When the more fortunate supply the less fortunate through charity everyone has a net gain. When a government becomes involved in this exchange everyone will suffer a net loss and thieves will be created.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157272
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I don't think anyone here wants to see people who truly can't help themselves starve. What most of us want is for people who are perfectly capable of working to work for their own living rather than sponging off the rest of society.

Most people on welfare and foodstamps are capable of providing for themselves, to at least some extent, they just don't have enough moral character to provide for themselves, when they don't have to.

As to eugenics, people can be genetically improved, by selective breeding. It's a true fact that makes almost all of us uncomfortable. The wrong people have most of the children in our society. People on public assistance have a much higher reproduction rate than productive people. Adults on public assistance should not be allowed to procreate, while receiving public assistance. They are much more likely to pass on both poor nature and nature. Birth control implants should be a condition of receiving public assistance as an adult. This will likely never happen here in the US.

A strong effort should be made to mentor and educate children on public assistance to help them become capable of providing for themselves.

One of the greatest things you can do for another human being is to motivate them to reach their full potential to do well.

Keith

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Rats!] #6157273
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Originally Posted By: Rats!
If you are jealous of the poor and hungry I feel sorry for you.


Not jealous at all, but completely tired of buying food for those that can buy it for themselves, Like the girl I worked with that would bring in $100 worth of cookies and cakes for her coworkers everytime her food stamps came in, then be begging for $10 from everyone in the store the last week of the month@!


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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157274
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From KeithC:

"As to eugenics, people can be genetically improved, by selective breeding. It's a true fact that makes almost all of us uncomfortable. The wrong people have most of the children in our society. People on public assistance have a much higher reproduction rate than productive people. Adults on public assistance should not be allowed to procreate, while receiving public assistance. They are much more likely to pass on both poor nature and nature. Birth control implants should be a condition of receiving public assistance as an adult.
This will likely never happen here in the US."

No kidding Keith ==> "it will likely never happen". You may not know it but you have the Nazi thing going on.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157275
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And it could argued that those on public assistance are more genetically advanced than those who provide the assistance. Exerting less effort to achieve the same gain illustrates higher intelligence.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157276
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Rats you seem to be a genuinely compassionate person. Very admirable. You need to channel that compassion and empathy into helping others PERSONALLY. Not through federal government and harangin those that want the federal government to act within its mean and capabilities.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Rats!] #6157279
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Originally Posted By: Rats!
No kidding Keith ==> "it will likely never happen". You may not know it but you have the Nazi thing going on.


I most definitely do not have any sympathy for the Nazis or for liberals, who attack others with emotion laced words like Nazi, because they have difficulty forming a valid, intelligent argument.

Keith

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Nazi is acronym for socialists in Germany, liberal is pc for socialist in USA; can some one explain the difference between one socialist and another socialist?

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157288
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Go Rats! You tell them.

Before federal government assistance, private charity was not doing the job. If private charity had been taking care of the poor everywhere in the US, government never would have had to get involved.

Private charities don't have the resources or human power required. Ask any private charity--they're all looking, and some are begging, for more volunteers.

Like it or not, government must be involved. I agree with Rats that a decent, compassionate people take care of their poor, weak, and disabled.

Jim


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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157292
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In the words of Jesus Christ.."Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debt as we have forgiven our debtors."


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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Rats!] #6157325
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Originally Posted By: Rats!
I hijacked this thread and I am NOT sorry about that. We talked about the Constitution and Jesus. We are all in this together. My beef is that being mean to people who need help is not productive. Give help where you can. Why would you be envious of someone who has nothing? I am asking you to be kind in your actions and thoughts.

When I was a child , The poor were skinny, nuff said.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: James] #6157330
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Originally Posted By: James
Go Rats! You tell them.

Before federal government assistance, private charity was not doing the job. If private charity had been taking care of the poor everywhere in the US, government never would have had to get involved.

Private charities don't have the resources or human power required. Ask any private charity--they're all looking, and some are begging, for more volunteers.

Like it or not, government must be involved. I agree with Rats that a decent, compassionate people take care of their poor, weak, and disabled.

Jim

Describe "poor", What level of "poorness" do we compassionate people reward? At what level of income do we get "uncompassionate". I have been around the country and I have seen a lot of "unfortunate " people but very few actually "poor".

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: James] #6157343
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Originally Posted By: James
Go Rats! You tell them.

Before federal government assistance, private charity was not doing the job. If private charity had been taking care of the poor everywhere in the US, government never would have had to get involved.

Private charities don't have the resources or human power required. Ask any private charity--they're all looking, and some are begging, for more volunteers.

Like it or not, government must be involved. I agree with Rats that a decent, compassionate people take care of their poor, weak, and disabled.

Jim
I think it may have been more like government wanted people to believe they were God. Seems to be working.
If it were put forward that the church would handle the donations and government would handle the distribution,or vice versa,wouldn't be long before someone was yelling separation of church and state.
True charity comes from within. Forced charity as taxation for welfare is nothing more than theft.

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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157345
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What an interesting thread. It's saddening that there are so many uninformed opinions.

I am a benefits fraud investigator. I love my job. Nothing makes me happier than substantiating an allegation.

You no what slows me down..... jealous people who are mad at poor people making baseless allegations.


A culture is judged by how they treat those (and view those) in need, the less fortunate whether their fault or not.

I see horrible cases everyday that would make your head explode and yet....it still hasn't dampened my compassion.

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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Rats!] #6157346
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Originally Posted By: Rats!
Whatever. My whole deal is please don't pick on poor people. I have been there and I did not like it. Still poor but doing better.

I've been as broke as anyone , But never poor.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157354
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I also found it funny a few months ago when something was said there were more than a few guys that got bent out of shape when those on disability got called out. If you're able bodied enough to trap, or able enough to work.

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I remember i had to sav.e up to be poor.


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