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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157409
02/14/18 09:15 AM
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This is a touchy situation.I can safely assume that everyone that has worked there entire life or most of it ,less truly disabled persons.,will most likey be sick and tired of what now happening say for the last 20 years.Free get it, its Free! With no rhyme and reason why the heck some are on it for as long as they choose It's become a life style, Starting from young girls in school making babys and deciding that really isn't a bad occupation option. Free housing, food, heat, medical, cell phones, internet,gas cards,transportation,car repair,air conditioners in sommer.free tuition and day care.(they take the money and never go w/o reprisals)
Sorry I dont buy that exploitation and never will. call me un-progressive,I dont care stand on your feet ,the lazy ones and stop being a burden to all us.Now we cant stop the machine off welfare.
None of this is based or pointed at the truly needy.I can feel for them and there familys. The others you have my wrath!

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157415
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Something is terribly wrong with the existing system:


Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157463
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One chart I looked at for a family of 4 income 2600.00 a month, food stamps 649 a month. As our congress keeps lowering the bar to get on we now have half the population receiving benefits. This is all social engineering to put and keep the population dependant on the Gov. When I first got married we could have got on every program the state had but I didn't instead I worked 80 hours a week for years. Some people are unlucky but I've found the harder I worked the luckier I got.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157465
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And who was running the show the last 8 years on that chart??

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157470
02/14/18 10:11 AM
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Big difference between someone needing a little help and a 5th generation welfare abuser that NEVER has worked! Half the people are talking about one group and the other half it talking about the other half. Yes a touchy subject as both sides are talking from experience so both are right in the end.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157482
02/14/18 10:25 AM
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Generational Welfare

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Law Dog] #6157500
02/14/18 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Big difference between someone needing a little help and a 5th generation welfare abuser that NEVER has worked! Half the people are talking about one group and the other half it talking about the other half. Yes a touchy subject as both sides are talking from experience so both are right in the end.


This chart is from the same site that corky got his from.

Are you surprised by the low percentage of Natives? I have this perception that the vast majority of Natives receive SNAP benefits although I have little interaction with them here.


Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: bowhunter27295] #6157502
02/14/18 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: bowhunter27295
Originally Posted By: Ronaround
And who was running the show the last 8 years on that chart??


Look at 2008-2016.


Trigger warning....might create some Clinton fans.


Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Tweed] #6157520
02/14/18 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted By: Tweed
Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Big difference between someone needing a little help and a 5th generation welfare abuser that NEVER has worked! Half the people are talking about one group and the other half it talking about the other half. Yes a touchy subject as both sides are talking from experience so both are right in the end.


This chart is from the same site that corky got his from.

Are you surprised by the low percentage of Natives? I have this perception that the vast majority of Natives receive SNAP benefits although I have little interaction with them here.




Population wise that would make sense the cities have millions of people compared to the reservations that often have thousands nothing shocking about those numbers. Just look at the voting patterns here and it will explain the dependency on hand outs.

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Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: bowhunter27295] #6157535
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Originally Posted By: bowhunter27295
Originally Posted By: Tweed

Trigger warning....might create some Clinton fans.




Look at who controlled congress at those times. That includes 2008-2016.

It's neat and fun to point at the president in office. I do it. But who is in control of congress says a lot more.


Oh stop it.... More often than not congress is controlled by the opposing party. Locally here its more comical because our Governor is usually of the opposing party. That way each party can blame the other.

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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: bowhunter27295] #6157543
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Originally Posted By: bowhunter27295
So along with the Clinton fan answer you are saying republicans had a lot to do with economic prosperity.

At that time, you would be correct. But Clinton gets the kudos from those who assign success/failure to who is in the president's office.


Yes....politics is crap.

By both parties being in control of one or the other branches of the Government they can both take credit for success and throw blame at short comings.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: bowhunter27295] #6157571
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Originally Posted By: bowhunter27295
So the dumb ones are those who think politicians care about anything except getting re-elected.
That and that there is any difference in the major parties or the important players. The entire system is a fraud to make the public believe they have some impact on the government and thus avoid general anarchy.
If the majority had basic comprehension skills and an understanding of logic anarchy would rule.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157610
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When did people stop producing their own food and turn to the expectation that someone would hand it to them? I realize that not everyone has enough dirt to grow 100% of their food, but (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman), plant a pot of bean plants, do something.


"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living; the world owes you nothing; it was here first. "
--Mark Twain.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157611
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I could be wrong but the program was ended because of the subsidies on agricultural products in particular dairy products (government Cheese ).The USDA purchased commodities on the open market at an advanced price to keep the mrkt. on certain commodities more stable and to put a bottom on it Helping ALL farmers .These commodities where either stored in strategic warehouses or distributed the to public institutions cafeterias (prisons ,schools )and to the poor . The ending of it devastated the small dairy farmer leaving the industry vulnerable to corporatization . The USDA went from a product based subsidy program where the USDA got something out of it that it could distribute to gov. and nonprofit institutions to just giving cash payouts to CERTAIN farmers (CRP , Crop insurance )and almost exclusively to food stamps .I remember when I was young everything our school served for lunch was USDA commodities The huge plain brown or black and white containers of dried potatoes ,dried milk , honey, butter ,rice ,and beans ,flour ,cheese ,corn meal ,peanut butter, canned meat,and even lard sat in the hall where we walked past them in line to eat . by the time I graduated everything they served was brand name and the school was debating contracting out the school lunch program because of cost. Yes it was a huge ,huge gov program that was "EXPENSIVE "but The commodity program of the seventies and early eighties helped way more people across many different levels of society than this cash based program we have now . It's just another example of the polititions and their associates cashing in on "privatizing a good successful government program that did a great amount of good .
A previous poster mentioned it being a horribly corrupt system ,but how can a commodity based system ever be more corrupt than a cash based system .


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Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157615
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Saw a guy just yesterday at a dollar General he was probably in his mid 20s come to the register with about 30 of the big energy drinks that are over $3 each and pays with a food stamp card, really chapped my arse

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157636
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Social services should be trying to get people off programs but there is no job security in that.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157645
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They don't work in restaurants.

Would you like to see SNAP have similar restriction as WIC?

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Tweed] #6157654
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They don't work in restaurants.

Would you like to see SNAP have similar restriction as WIC?



Yes, they do. I’ve seen it with my own eyes and have taken a picture of it. I don’t want to go through thousands of pictures to find it, but I’ll sure take a picture and post it whenever I am able to get to a restaurant that offers it.


At some sonic drive ins, its one of the payment options on the self service screen.

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: charles] #6157659
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the old commodity program did a lot of good for a lot of people all over the world. there was a time if a church wanted to host a soup kitchen all they did was file some papers with usda and they had more chipped beef dry beans and rice than they new what to do with The USDA worked hand in hand with many churches and community based organizations to distribute commodities. there was a time when foreign aid mint ship loads of USDA commodities instead of billions of dollars .

Re: Food deliveries to replace Food Stamps [Re: Bigfoot] #6157672
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Originally Posted By: Bigfoot
the old commodity program did a lot of good for a lot of people all over the world. there was a time if a church wanted to host a soup kitchen all they did was file some papers with usda and they had more chipped beef dry beans and rice than they new what to do with The USDA worked hand in hand with many churches and community based organizations to distribute commodities. there was a time when foreign aid mint ship loads of USDA commodities instead of billions of dollars .

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