It's the main headline all over the place now, not that 17 kids are dead, but that an AR-15 did it?!
Where do you see this going, if anywhere?

Come and.......

It may very well be a mental health issue. That said, something needs to be done about how easy it is for sick people to get these weapons.

Trumpy might trade away ar's for his wall funding.

The NRA is working on a compromise right now I am sure. Get ready to turn em in boys.

Flyin -

Turn em in (wrong). More $ to NRA does not seem to be the cure all either.

CC

The NRA is a joke.

I think the president will move towards Chuck and Nancy on this.

Good luck on getting me to "turn em in". Don't know about you, but I am an American, and it is my RIGHT to have them. And, it is my DUTY to protect my rights even if/when the government tries to take them away. I'd never turn them in, they'd have to come TRY to take them, and I would FIGHT to keep my rights.

Was there no mental illness when we were kids? Everyone had guns. I shot sparrows out of the bus barn at the school with a .22 with bird shot and rode the mower with dad there and shot ground squirrels with a .410 off it! Every one had guns in the truck in the parking lot and there were no school shootings!!!

What I’d like to know is when is America going to have an honest conversation about getting rid of gun free zones. They can talk about restricting gun purchases, mental health, and bullying until they’re blue in the face, but until they stop making it a crime to take safety into our own hands, this will continue. As it is, we trust teachers and staff with our children’s lives. Problem is, they’re only allowed canned green beans and ink pens to defend against murderers. Not everyone would carry, but at least those comfortable could. They’d at least stand a better chance with an LCP than an ink pen. What’s stopping them now, other than the risk of having their careers and lives ruined by prosecution? Nothing. The only ones hurt by gun free zones are those that have to stay in them. Guns aren’t going anywhere. Mental illness isn’t going anywhere. Random acts of violence aren’t going anywhere. Let our kids have a chance by allowing teachers and admins to carry if they so choose!



Gun free zones are a sick joke.

I know this might be viewed as being insensitive but it couldn't be further from the truth. But reports are coming out and quotes from students interviewed that it was joked about that it would be this kid that would come back and "shoot the place up". He made many disturbing reports on social media. Students and staff were well aware of the potential threat and no one did anything to report. We keep to ourselves so well that we as a community ignore the obvious signs around us. This is the reason why we see this happen so often these days. Get involved and be aware and for God sake if you see something say something.

They were interviewing a couple of the kids and they said who the shooter was to them and
they all said that they figured that's who the shooter was. One kid said that was my first guess. Guess they didn't want to make any waves for the kid.

I have said for years these video games are one major difference than when we were kids. Kids just hit reset and have no sense of death.

BUT as for the number of people killed the AR style gun DID contribute to that IN MY OPIONION ... Combat and confrontation is what it was designed for. That can't be denied.
Now before I start getting slammed I hunt , have my whole life. Own 30 some odd guns, pistols and long guns of every size and shape. BUT none are any type of ASSAULT rifle. Never felt the need or want for one. Never had the need to put multiple shots quickly down range. But now will come the phrase "I got mine to defend my home." Well good, someone comes in my home it's my 12 gauge pump or the many 9 mm I have placed thru out the house that I go for.
Of course the reason gun owners must stand not to let the ASSAULT style rifles be taken is we have no ideal where the gubment will stop confiscating !!!!!!!!!!!!
Just me..............

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I agree we need to stand togeather jbyrd63, becase think of it this way.......
Those that own AR's who don't hunt could say, why have single shots, ban them. Ban semi's of all kinds, shotguns too if your going to ban my gun.

Personally, i don't need a car, ban all them and only allow pick-ups on the road. Dumb argument if you really think about it.

If a 1 1/2 Duke can hold a coyote,
why do people need a MB 550?
Then they dye them black,very scary!
We need to have a serious discussion about these.

Same here. No one called the cops when I came out of the woods lugging a single shot shotgun, it was a normal thing to see a young kid doing.

This is a societal breakdown. This is where the cries for more gun control will lead us.

“What good does it do me, after all, if an ever-watchful authority keeps an eye out to ensure that my pleasures will be tranquil and races ahead of me to ward off all danger, sparing me the need even to think about such things, if that authority, even as it removes the smallest thorns from my path, is also absolute master of my liberty and my life; if it monopolizes vitality and existence to such a degree that when it languishes, everything around it must also languish; when it sleeps, everything must also sleep; and when it dies, everything must also perish?"

de Tocqueville

actually there was a lot less mental illness in public , I have a co-worker who was a jailer and county deputy in the late 70s early 80s.

you had local drunks , they were apologetic when they sobered up.

then Castro emptied his prisons

then there was Deinstitutionalization this was the push to release people living in mental health hospitalization between 1955 and 1994 just shy of a million people were released leaving just what were considered the most severely dangerous to society still institutionalized.

we know have a much more transient population , we have hundreds of times the drugs there were even in the 70s and we have multi generational gangs.

just as suicide has gone up , the lack of seeing the worth of their life or any other life has also.

the saddest thing is a person with no plan.

you could ask anyone on this forum what their plan is for next week , next month , 6 months or a year from now and I bet almost everyone has something they are looking forward to.

Not so in a huge sector of society , they live day to day , no vision of tomorrow or beyond and no reason to live. their life means nothing to them and neither does yours.