It's the main headline all over the place now, not that 17 kids are dead, but that an AR-15 did it?!
Where do you see this going, if anywhere?

Come and.......

It may very well be a mental health issue. That said, something needs to be done about how easy it is for sick people to get these weapons.

Trumpy might trade away ar's for his wall funding.

The NRA is working on a compromise right now I am sure. Get ready to turn em in boys.

Flyin -

Turn em in (wrong). More $ to NRA does not seem to be the cure all either.

CC

The NRA is a joke.

I think the president will move towards Chuck and Nancy on this.

Good luck on getting me to "turn em in". Don't know about you, but I am an American, and it is my RIGHT to have them. And, it is my DUTY to protect my rights even if/when the government tries to take them away. I'd never turn them in, they'd have to come TRY to take them, and I would FIGHT to keep my rights.

Was there no mental illness when we were kids? Everyone had guns. I shot sparrows out of the bus barn at the school with a .22 with bird shot and rode the mower with dad there and shot ground squirrels with a .410 off it! Every one had guns in the truck in the parking lot and there were no school shootings!!!

What I’d like to know is when is America going to have an honest conversation about getting rid of gun free zones. They can talk about restricting gun purchases, mental health, and bullying until they’re blue in the face, but until they stop making it a crime to take safety into our own hands, this will continue. As it is, we trust teachers and staff with our children’s lives. Problem is, they’re only allowed canned green beans and ink pens to defend against murderers. Not everyone would carry, but at least those comfortable could. They’d at least stand a better chance with an LCP than an ink pen. What’s stopping them now, other than the risk of having their careers and lives ruined by prosecution? Nothing. The only ones hurt by gun free zones are those that have to stay in them. Guns aren’t going anywhere. Mental illness isn’t going anywhere. Random acts of violence aren’t going anywhere. Let our kids have a chance by allowing teachers and admins to carry if they so choose!



Gun free zones are a sick joke.

I know this might be viewed as being insensitive but it couldn't be further from the truth. But reports are coming out and quotes from students interviewed that it was joked about that it would be this kid that would come back and "shoot the place up". He made many disturbing reports on social media. Students and staff were well aware of the potential threat and no one did anything to report. We keep to ourselves so well that we as a community ignore the obvious signs around us. This is the reason why we see this happen so often these days. Get involved and be aware and for God sake if you see something say something.

They were interviewing a couple of the kids and they said who the shooter was to them and
they all said that they figured that's who the shooter was. One kid said that was my first guess. Guess they didn't want to make any waves for the kid.

I have said for years these video games are one major difference than when we were kids. Kids just hit reset and have no sense of death.

BUT as for the number of people killed the AR style gun DID contribute to that IN MY OPIONION ... Combat and confrontation is what it was designed for. That can't be denied.
Now before I start getting slammed I hunt , have my whole life. Own 30 some odd guns, pistols and long guns of every size and shape. BUT none are any type of ASSAULT rifle. Never felt the need or want for one. Never had the need to put multiple shots quickly down range. But now will come the phrase "I got mine to defend my home." Well good, someone comes in my home it's my 12 gauge pump or the many 9 mm I have placed thru out the house that I go for.
Of course the reason gun owners must stand not to let the ASSAULT style rifles be taken is we have no ideal where the gubment will stop confiscating !!!!!!!!!!!!
Just me..............

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I agree we need to stand togeather jbyrd63, becase think of it this way.......
Those that own AR's who don't hunt could say, why have single shots, ban them. Ban semi's of all kinds, shotguns too if your going to ban my gun.

Personally, i don't need a car, ban all them and only allow pick-ups on the road. Dumb argument if you really think about it.

If a 1 1/2 Duke can hold a coyote,
why do people need a MB 550?
Then they dye them black,very scary!
We need to have a serious discussion about these.

Same here. No one called the cops when I came out of the woods lugging a single shot shotgun, it was a normal thing to see a young kid doing.

This is a societal breakdown. This is where the cries for more gun control will lead us.

“What good does it do me, after all, if an ever-watchful authority keeps an eye out to ensure that my pleasures will be tranquil and races ahead of me to ward off all danger, sparing me the need even to think about such things, if that authority, even as it removes the smallest thorns from my path, is also absolute master of my liberty and my life; if it monopolizes vitality and existence to such a degree that when it languishes, everything around it must also languish; when it sleeps, everything must also sleep; and when it dies, everything must also perish?"

de Tocqueville

actually there was a lot less mental illness in public , I have a co-worker who was a jailer and county deputy in the late 70s early 80s.

you had local drunks , they were apologetic when they sobered up.

then Castro emptied his prisons

then there was Deinstitutionalization this was the push to release people living in mental health hospitalization between 1955 and 1994 just shy of a million people were released leaving just what were considered the most severely dangerous to society still institutionalized.

we know have a much more transient population , we have hundreds of times the drugs there were even in the 70s and we have multi generational gangs.

just as suicide has gone up , the lack of seeing the worth of their life or any other life has also.

the saddest thing is a person with no plan.

you could ask anyone on this forum what their plan is for next week , next month , 6 months or a year from now and I bet almost everyone has something they are looking forward to.

Not so in a huge sector of society , they live day to day , no vision of tomorrow or beyond and no reason to live. their life means nothing to them and neither does yours.

Not mention that it was easier to get guns at that time as well! However ADC you can provide all the facts and they(liberals) will continue to ignore tham and say it is a gun issue. You can not reason with them.

Gun turn in laws passed in Australia in a very short time after one too many mass shootings.

I do not trust any politician with my gun rights.

In the end we need to Just Say No.....if it comes to that.

A few things that I believe will help.

Abolish government schools. Quit warehousing targets, I mean children, in free fire zones. Turn responsibility for the safety and education of the young back to where it belongs, the parents. If the parents wish to co-op or otherwise organize local level programs then so be it.

Reinstate the state asylum system to allow the mentally ill to be intercepted prior to their commission of criminal acts which is the current sytem. Can't protect those harmful to themselves or others until they actually do harm isn't working.

Failure to parent should be a felony. Parents should be required to parent or face the consequences.

Allow everyone to be armed at will anywhere anytime as 2A requires. Yes, there will some bumps and bruises but very shortly the truly stupid will be gone from the planet.

I did some minor research last night, the murder rate in 1970 was the same as it was in 2017, approx 17,000 murders nationwide, the population in 1970 was just under 180 million people and now we have 320+ million. Looking at the math I think we have improved a lot in the last 47 years, but then we have the change in demographics of the murderers, today kids do most of the murdering whether it is gangs or school shootings. The FBI has some interesting numbers if you look them up, they break down murders by every thinkable stat from race to sex to the type of weapon used. Even with the uptick in murders involving the AR15 rifle there is still on average about 300 rifle murders a year, around 400 done with shotguns, the vast majority of gun murders are committed with handguns and the bulk of them are gang/drug related. Some 3000 white people are murdered with the vast majority being killed by white people and about 400 whites murdered by blacks and the same goes for black people murdered, mostly by black people with about 200 murdered by white people. By state is the real clincher, Commiefornia leads the pack with nearly 2000 murders a year followed by Texas with around 1500 a year, most other states have rates under 500 a year, MN had 122 murders in 2017, last year saw nearly a 20% increase in murder rate from 2016 and the FBI says that Chitcago is responsible for nearly all of that 20% jump and cities like Detroit follow closely. Detroit interestingly enough was under Democrat rule for over 40 years straight and saw its beauty and wealth diminish under that leadership, of course now they are blaming the Republican governor.

People will always murder other people, that is just the way it is and it will never change, taking away all the guns or even some of the guns will not change human behavior, it will just make murdering quieter and easier. The single biggest change that could be made to deter murder is to punish those responsible quickly and harshly, capitol punishment needs to be reinstated and used in all 50 states period. The courts need to actually follow the laws instead of making up arbitrary arguments for suplantingthe laws and filling in that void with their own feelings.

Break the law and get punished, show others that the punishmentis harsh and ireversable and they will think twice before murdering other people, it will not stop all murders but it will stop a lot more than any gun control measure will.

Excited to take my AR out this weekend for some coyote hunting. First time since PA made the law. Can’t wait!

There is always going to be crazy people in the world who do this kind of foolishness. More guns in the schools is the only thing that is going to slow it down. Armed guards and some armed teachers and coaches would help immensely. A gun-free zone is the stupidest, most ridiculous and dangerous place in the country.

Its not that there wasn't any school shootings, there just wasn't an internet and cell phones to spread the news like wildfire. The mass media tries to make up believe that we have a problem with rampant murder, but we don't. In truth, less than 0.001% of Americans are murdered with a gun each year. That's per the published Center for Disease Control statistics.

When was the last time you lost sleep because there was a 0.001% chance of something happening? Simple fact is there is a long list of dangers far more likely to happen to a kid than getting shot.

The sky is not falling.

I disagree with this, not that I'm against capital punishment, but there are things we can do to deter murder that would be much more effective. One is provide mental healthcare. The other is reduce the class divide in a way that elevates more people from poverty. Financial hardship is a common stress factor leading to the mental breakdowns that end in violence.

FYI - AR's are already illegal for those of us stuck in Massachusetts. We're also the only state to make bump stocks and trigger cranks illegal. I just received my letter telling met to turn them in if I have them. I feel so much safer now.

I'd move if I could.

So what am i looking at here. This is a picture of the kids guns, and frankly, i don't know my guns that well. I know what i have, and i know how they shoot, that's it.
They keep calling it an AR15 "style" gun, can y'all tell what exactly it is?

Again the gun is blamed for the carnage. The anti - gun crowd has finally convinced me, I understand now, why OJ was acquitted. The knife was at fault.

The guns in the pic from top to bottom look like a 22,a shotgun,another shotgun,semi auto with a scary black stock handle and a big arse mag,a handgun,and on bottom a high power hunting rifle.Cant tell the one on the left.

But I will make one point . It was reported that the FBI was alerted about this guy. But they are too worried about finding something on TRUMP to try and stop such things as this . FBI ? come on guys do your job.......

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Mike

Every reason to vote republican in November. If the dems get to control both the house and senate, there will be a slew of proposed gun laws and like usual all bad for gun owners that will do nothing to deter these mass shootings or crime.

Why so? Is there another national organization that is protecting our gun rights that I am not aware of?

Another point that I believe needs clearing up is that fact that an AR 15 IS NOT a “military” “assault style rifle”. AR does not stand for “assault rifle”. It is an abbreviation for Armalite, the company that created the AR 15. What we as civilians buy at our local gun shop are not military style AR’s just because they look the same. They aren’t full auto and they aren’t 3 round burst. People need to get off the whole AR’s are causing the high number of casualties. They are more commonly involved in these shootings because they are the most popularizes. Do you think somebody couldn’t do the same damage with a Mini 14? You never hear about anyone using one of those. It’s because they aren’t as popular in the mainstream media. They don’t look as mean, and they are more difficult demonize because of that. My .02.

WELLL actually they ARE military STYLE . Just not ALL the functions as the military version. Plus Joe public has made them popular not necessarily the media. Popularity comes from the number sold and / or manufactured. Don't see as many of the mini 14 sold in gun shops. Just saying.....

How can you say they are military style, just not with all the functions, lol. How are the the same when they don’t have the same capability? Popularity comes from something which causes people to want them. Gun shops didn’t carry them until they became poplulr. Just sayin....

So what's the plan to get all these AR's and AK's out of the hands of U.S. citizens?

Mike

So the way I figure is this. Something has to be done to stop the mass killings that are happening.

I do not know what the answer is but I don't think putting a loaded gun in every teachers desk is the answer and unless we can come up with some sort of compromise we may just loose our rights to bear arms.

For those that don't want any compromise I say to you, you may lose all rights if we keep having these mass killings.

Is the right to own a gun that can shoot 30 rounds worth the life of a child?

I know I have opened a can of worms. Just my thoughts.

And yes I know it is not the gun. It is the shooter.

But how do you propose we get the 5 or 10 or 50 million semi autos out of circulation?

Mike

It sure is worth it to me, that's a stupid way to look at it though.

The focus seems to be on the object rather than the person. The person did this. The person is the monster, not that rifle.

Everyone is forgetting that the Second Amendment is for the citizens to protect themselves first off from a tyrannical government's army and police. I am sorry some people break laws already in place against using any weapon to commit murder. However, do not take away my means of defense from a tyrannical government in the future, just to appease emotions on the alter of the immediate. If you want to appease your emotions over this lawbreaking mass murderer, hang him publicly on live television. That would not only make him pay for his crime, but discourage others who might aspire to do the same.

I don't own an AR but I do own an "assault rifle". It was given to me when I was 9 or 10. It has a wood stock, with a squirrel engraved in it, is a deadly semi-auto rifle and holds a whopping 17 shots. It is a Marlin .22 LR squirrel gun, and I could have killed the same number of people, without reloading.

This is what it comes down to. There IS no way to "prevent" a mass shooting like this, only equalize it as quickly as possible by armed guards/teachers/coaches taking down the psycho.

Besides that, another thing that might help is having schools locked down. They did that even in the late 90s when I was in high school. The majority of doors only opened one way.... OUT. The other two doors required a buzzer system, and someone from the office would come to the door, see who you are and what you needed, then let you in, or not. A past, expelled student would never have been allowed into my school in 1997. Why is that different today?

Absolutely. If one child in a school that has chosen not to take the necessary precautions of armed guards/teachers... dies... than that really sucks, but that is on that school district. MY right to own a gun that shoots 30 rounds that SAVES my 2-4-6 children at home when a home invader breaks in... is more important to me.

If you are concerned about your children at school... and you should be... I suggest pulling them out and moving them into a private school that utilizes armed guards.

Your kid is probably safer at a public school without armed guards than when mommy drives them someplace in the city. Vehicles are far more likely to kill you than a lunatic with a firearm. The odds are even better if a person is not living a thug life.


Everyone (including me) keeps asking why when kids routinely brought firearms to school there were no school shootings. I believe the answer is pretty simple. Its because kids and staff both routinely brought guns to school. Today even a pocket knife is a crime. Seems like an ideal place for a coward to act tough to me........
Schools don't need armed security. It needs to be legal to be your own security again.

What I don't get is weres the conversation about ACTUAL prevention, if we had no guns this little freak would have still pulled this crap somehow,poison, bomb big jaked up truck in a crowed some how,if we take the guns away it'll all be ok!!? Theres no actual talk of prevention what's wrong with them kids theys 2 dozen that say they thought he would do this one day say somthin this PC crap is exactaly whats caused this, sounds like even some school admin new he was capable!!?
Theres no punishment for enythang eaither,he'll get off on insanity just like the freak in colorado, now he feels remorse? Crap on his remorse! 17 family's are torn apart and you fill remorse he needs his head sawd off with a dull knife!
The liberals resonpone to every thang is do nothin unless it furthers there agenda!
Freaks makeing threats! Don't hurt there feeling!
Illegals pooring into the country, there Dreamers
Possible terrorism around every corner,learn to live with it!
Selfish people who want attention after being useless there whole life kills somebody, take away guns!
People don't listen to the cops and get shot, get rid of the cops!
On and on

Colt

In the wake of this week’s deadly Florida high school shooting, Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel called out local lawmakers during a candlelight vigil for the victims, saying those who did not push for new gun laws "will not get reelected."

"If you're an elected official, and you want to keep things the way they are, and not do things differently, if you want to keep the gun laws as they are now, you will not get re-elected in Broward County,” Israel said Thursday night to cheers, as locals grieved the 17 victims killed a day earlier.

The vigil in Parkland, near the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, drew about 1,000 people and attendees at one point began chanting "No more guns! No more guns!", according to the Associated Press.

I may call down there and ask the sheriff what his plan is then.

I would really like someone to explain to me how they plan on getting guns out of the hands of criminals and mentally unstable individuals.

Mike

Ok no one has ask this yet ,but HOW did he get into the school to start with? It was during class time, !!!!!!!!!!!! I worked for the local school system and ALL doors are locked during school hours. EVERYONE that didn't have a key had to enter into a forier and an electric lock had to be pressed to allow entry into the halls. HE WAS NOT A STUDENT THERE!!!!! Not going to bring anyone back or undo the results but HEADS SHOULD ROLL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't own an AR but I do own an "assault rifle". It was given to me when I was 9 or 10. It has a wood stock, with a squirrel engraved in it, is a deadly semi-auto rifle and holds a whopping 17 shots. It is a Marlin .22 LR squirrel gun, and I could have killed the same number of people, without reloading.


REALLY. Yote 30 You are more intelligent than that. A marlin 22 is not an assault rifle and is not as deadly as an AR -15 in 223. If it was why not just give our troops 22 rim fires.
Plus doubt it on the number of people unless they were in their sleep. Even then some may have survived the wound.

Not pointing fingers but when the libatards hear comments like this it gives them fuel to say WE as gun owners are so narrow minded about common sense gun usage.. Just saying
JEFF BYRD

It appears the point of my post went over your head. Who came up with the term assault rifle anyways? That's not what AR stands for. When the liberals talk about banning assault rifles, many of the things they propose doing would outlaw that Marlin squirrel gun right alongside those scary AR-15s. Look at the legislation NY passed. A veteran out there just got arrested for having pistol clips in his trunk that held more than 10 rounds. He didn't even have the gun in the car.

I thought our troops rifles were capable of automatic fire? Those are already illegal here.

My point is, where does it stop? First we banned automatic rifles. Now say they want to ban semi-autos capable of shooting 30 rounds. Then the next week someone uses a semi-auto and a pocket full of 10 round clips. Well, now we better ban any semi-auto capable of shooting 10 rounds and that will take out a bunch of pistols, Ruger 10/22s and that squirrel gun.

I just can't believe so many people on here don't seem to realize that it is NOT a gun problem. It's a societal problem.

My point obviously went over your head. My point is comparing a 22 squirrel rifle to a 223 AR is ridiculous regardless of who or what party wants to do it. You are proving the lefts side when you yourself are saying that you could do as much damage with the marlin as was done with the AR. Just saying be careful when YOU want to declare they are the same but jump up and down when the liberals want to lump them together.
Yes our troops are fully auto. BUT really why does someone need a clip that holds 30 rounds ???? Use common sense. What is the mag limit on center fire hunting rifles in your state?

There are no caliber or magazine restrictions on center fire hunting rifles in my state.

The problem isn't nearly as big as they claim it to be. In 1970 the murder rate was the same as it is today about 17000 last year (same in 1970) and we only had 180 million people 47 years ago and now we have 320 million. They just want to get a foothold on taking any guns away so that can set a legal precedence for eventually taking all of them away.

Too many people want the government to make them feel safe but have no idea how dumb that idea is. If the government is to make you feel safe then they need unfettered access to every part of your life and they have no right to any part of your life unless you sign a contract to serve in the military period!

My family's and my own security is solely my responsibility and I can't perform my duties to my family in that regard without one of the most important tools available to us, the guns. I usually do not worry about a single intruder where I live (most of the time) but I worry the most about the government and its jackbooted thug proxy who think I am a sheep to be sheered (I am not). I am not an anti-government person, I served in the Army and I believe that we need our government to do its job but within the confines of the greatest document ever published (after the Bible), the Constitution of these United States and people like Ruth Bader Ginsburg and most of our politicians today are a very real threat to our country. In other words, it is the people running the government that is the threat, not our type of government.

Even if the Supreme Court were to rule saying the government can take our guns, no matter who was in control, it would be an illegal order/law and we are bound by our Constitution to ignore that ruling/law as if it were never written/passed etc. I will never give up my guns regardless of any event or law or ruling, it is my sworn duty within the scope of my Oath that I swore to the United States of America and my fellow citizens to protect Her and them.

If you want to conquer white folks its best to disarm them first.

White people are being outbred by other races.Whites will be a minority in a few short years.That is how whites are being conquered.

As long as there are Moron's that stick their hand in a toothed trap or eat laundry soap pods just to get their face on U-Toob, this will continue.

You guys must be lousey shots. LOL Here in Ky we cant use more than 10 round mags in any center fire to deer hunt.

LMAO

BOB X2

Or maybe the state of Mississippi doesn't want to burden its citizens with the prospect of having to buy 12 different guns to use for hunting, home defense, etc...

One AR 10 in .308 fills a lot of bills... Deer hunting, home defense, protection from tyranny, etc, etc, etc...

Mike

That is true. But a few well armed men get conquered harder than a few unarmed men if the rubber meets the road.

Did they ever talk to the Uber driver? I wonder how this kid carried all the stuff he had with him?

This is why we moved to Mississippi, ultimately. We knew we wanted to move south, and started looking at the laws of the states we were considering. MS won hands down. We don't have a lot of laws down here. Except for fish, they're kind of finicky about the fish, lol. But we have great trapping laws, great 2nd amendment law, or rather lack of laws. We don't need a permit to conceal carry with a few conditions, or carry permits are available if you want more nonrestrictive carrying options, such as being allowed into buildings you normally can't carry in. We have a law in congress now that will likely pass, allowing concealed carry in schools, actually.

No restrictions on guns used for hunting or anything, no restrictions on trap size or type on public land, etc.

Good question.

Mike

jbryd its none of your business why someone wants a high capacity magazine. Instead of asking why we don't have more firearm restrictions I say why don't we have none. Yes you read that right, none. How can I protect myself from a government in possession of armed drones, mini guns and two thousand pound bombs if I'm not allowed to have them?

if little johnny was still allowed to restock grampa's old ought six in wood shop, and joey was still able to forge a knife in metal shop, and suzie had her new 12 gauge benelli in her pickup so she could duck hunt when school let out, school shootings wouldn't be a problem. cowards don't attack those who might defend themselves.

Or maybe the state of Mississippi doesn't want to burden its citizens with the prospect of having to buy 12 different guns to use for hunting, home defense, etc...

One AR 10 in .308 fills a lot of bills... Deer hunting, home defense, protection from tyranny, etc, etc, etc...

Mike [/quote]

12 guns really? Comments like that is the fuel the left is going to need for what is coming. If you could only have one gun to hunt and protect your home you would go with a 30 shot AR 308? 95 % of hunters would select a 12 gauge shotgun. 4.9 % would go with a 20 gauge. That would leave .1% to choose your gun that didn't know any better. First if you need 30 rounds to hunt deer or anything you need to go to the range. Plus that 308 might make it hard to clean rabbits , squirrels, game birds or anything smaller than a deer.

As for the tyranny part shoot me an e-mail when it starts I'll be out enjoying life. Ironic thing is the weapon you say will fight it may be the very thing that causes it if these innocent kids keep getting killed.......

LOL that blanket comment is going to bite US GUN OWNERS in the end. It is just that OTHER than mowing down a crowd (friend or foe) what is the PRACTICAL every day use for a 30 round mag. "None of your business" is not going to ward of the gun control crowd when they look you in the eye in court and ask that question . Unfortuneatly with these shootings by "nut jobs" that day is coming. Deny it, get mad at someone who supports gun rights, turn red in the face , or what ever is not going to stop what's coming....
Just saying

I'm "just saying" ( whatever that phrase is supposed to imply I've no clue ) nobody is going to ask me that question in court.

12 guns really? Comments like that is the fuel the left is going to need for what is coming. If you could only have one gun to hunt and protect your home you would go with a 30 shot AR 308? 95 % of hunters would select a 12 gauge shotgun. 4.9 % would go with a 20 gauge. That would leave .1% to choose your gun that didn't know any better. First if you need 30 rounds to hunt deer or anything you need to go to the range. Plus that 308 might make it hard to clean rabbits , squirrels, game birds or anything smaller than a deer.

As for the tyranny part shoot me an e-mail when it starts I'll be out enjoying life. Ironic thing is the weapon you say will fight it may be the very thing that causes it if these innocent kids keep getting killed.......
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Those seem like made up numbers. I wouldn’t choose a 12 gauge shotgun as my catch all.

See that's the problem, because some nut job uses a specific weapon in a mass shooting everyone should give up theirs. Anti gunners don't just want black rifles they want all weapons. This is a free country yet and if I want one I should be able to have one, regardless what "one" is. People don't need fast cars big houses or that bag of Doritos. More laws will not make you safer.

I agree 100%. But its not me that wants to get rid of them. I just raised the question what INTELLIGENT answer can AR owners give as the need. Not "It's none of your business". Food for thought.............

Ok Wkimble what would you choose. Now remember you are going to use just one gun to hunt EVERYTHING , PLUS defend your family with it.....

Remember some game can't be taken with solid lead projectile............... (birdshot required)

Why answer at all???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Do you really think a person who is too stupid to see the benefits of liberty and a recognition of the right to self defense, is going to change their mind once you articulate your "need"? Probably going to have to do what our ancestors did so they could give us a government that recognized our natural rights as free people.

Do u realize what a shotgun can do, back in the 30, 40, and 50 that was the gun of choice for hunting and protection.

That's it. Someone could create a lot of mayhem with one of those once they're the only gun available to create mayhem with. It's useless trying to convince them otherwise.

IF I could only have one gun, yes, it would be a 12 gauge. But thankfully, this is America, and we aren't limited to having only one gun. As for the practical purpose of an AR style gun, there really is only one. To use against enemies, foreign or domestic. Everyone keeps mentioning tyranny, and while that of course is always a possibility, invasion by a foreign country is a possibility as well. Remember, "You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." The need for AR style rifles is not just to protect your family, but to protect your country as well.

One gun?



No, thanks anyway.

Well said Angela.

And they found it. 13 Russians indicted for meddling in our 2016 election. Mueller ain't done yet either!

Well the Russians ain't going to be allowed to meddle in the Olympics.

ok guess we are changing the subject. How did they find something on TRUMP . He wasn't named. Plus meddling . Taking out some ads on Face book and twitter didn't change the vote count. If it influenced anyones mind then the country is in trouble.
The libetards just can't admit that maybe more people liked Trump than Billary !!!!!!!!

GIVE IT UP !!! HILLARY LOST LOL

Wkimble said...

12 guns really? Comments like that is the fuel the left is going to need for what is coming. If you could only have one gun to hunt and protect your home you would go with a 30 shot AR 308? 95 % of hunters would select a 12 gauge shotgun. 4.9 % would go with a 20 gauge. That would leave .1% to choose your gun that didn't know any better. First if you need 30 rounds to hunt deer or anything you need to go to the range. Plus that 308 might make it hard to clean rabbits , squirrels, game birds or anything smaller than a deer.

As for the tyranny part shoot me an e-mail when it starts I'll be out enjoying life. Ironic thing is the weapon you say will fight it may be the very thing that causes it if these innocent kids keep getting killed.......
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Those seem like made up numbers. I wouldn’t choose a 12 gauge shotgun as my catch all.

Guess what? I don't need 30 rounds to hunt deer! But I can own a gun that will accept either a 7 round mag for deer hunting OR a 30 round mag for poking holes in paper, home invaders, etc...

Perhaps if you quit parroting the propaganda of the anti-gun left and did a little research you would realize why the AR platform is so popular. It can be quickly and easily matched to any number of applications.

The sick mindset concerning someone knowing what is good for everyone else is EXACTLY what is wrong with this country...

"No one NEEDS a fur coat so there is no NEED for trapping."

See how easy it is to be an anti? You just apply your delusions of self-righteous grandeur to everyone. You don't even have to be smart... Just smug and condescending.

I don't NEED a car that goes 150 mph. But I can drop a month's worth of pay to soup up my car to do so. AND I can legally drive it on public roads until I exceed the speed limit and endanger the lives of everyone else... In other words, until I commit a crime I am fine.

Mike

Seems like plenty of folks are ready and willing to allow confiscation of a gun that they may not really want to own (but someone else may) in a lame attempt to save what firearm may be important to them.

Once it starts they will want all guns....aside from the fact that any person bent on killing multiple people can just go and steal a big vehicle and then mow folks down en masse or use some other method.

I will not concede someone elses right to save my own because I know in the end I will be standing alone trying to protect the rights I think are important if I do that.

Any left wing nut on this forum that calls an AR 10 / 15 an Assault rifle should get a month vacation to give the idiot time to google Armalite. Then another month for just being a idiot and troll.

Dilly, dilly...