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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: corky] #6158694
02/15/18 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: corky
Originally Posted By: adam m
Gma said this is the 18th and deadliest school shooting THIS YEAR.


Why didn't the other 17 get high media coverage because of the gun.


Because they were mostly gang bangers killing each other.


Most of them nobody was hurt. That number includes any firearm discharge in a school.

It also includes some suicide attempts in school.

One had a student death when a gun in a backpack went off unexpectedly.

All from an abc news article.


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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: adam m] #6158697
02/15/18 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: adam m
Anyone else watching the news conference? The LEO'S and DA are awesome.
The sheriff said there are already copy cat threats today they will be answered by full force in full gear


Good


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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158699
02/15/18 12:10 PM
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The bottom line is the feds dropped the ball again, so now gun reform, take them scary black guns

Re: Active school shooting! [Re: sandhiller78] #6158700
02/15/18 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: sandhiller78
CNN is reporting that the FBI was alerted to social network postings by him back in Sept, where under his own name he said, “Im going to be a professional school shooter.”... He posted numerous pics with firearms and knives, along with images of mutilated animals. He was expelled from school for bad and erratic behavior. His mother died last Nov. The attorney of the family that had taken him in, said “they did notice signs of depression”. He passed a background check for the AR.. Geez, I dont know, the obvious solution is to ban the tool used to carry out the crime, because we sure cant hold the 19 yr old shooter, family, friends, teachers, administrators and or “Authorites” accountable.. Oh no, if we did that, we would have to hold People responsible for their actions or lack thereof.
good reason not to count on the "authorities" for are protection.

Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158703
02/15/18 12:19 PM
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President Trump is about to speak soon

Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158705
02/15/18 12:23 PM
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Happy B-Day Adam.....clear out some room in your PM box.... smile


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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158706
02/15/18 12:23 PM
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I don't want to hear some adolescent state, "I'm not a squealer"!

That's real juvenile talk, but if it was your butt being shot at school......!

The sheriff made a great statement that if you see and hear or read that someone talks about this, let the authorities know.

I'm sure it would be kept confidential.

This young man had lots of signs, but no one said anything.

Anyone remember the story about the disappearing Jews?

Story: They came for the Jews and Gypsies. I wasn't one, and said nothing.

They came for the Poles, I wasn't one. So I kept my mouth shut.

Then they came for ME! There was no one to help me.


Its not being a squealer (elementary talk), its your civic duty to your friends and family if someone is OFF the deep end!


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"Chaotic action is preferable to orderly inaction."
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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158710
02/15/18 12:29 PM
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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158729
02/15/18 12:55 PM
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All schools should have armed guards. I know some retired military people who would love such a job. One of our firearm instructors is a Vietnam vet. He said he would do it almost for nothing. The NRA has been saying this for a while.

I remember the two shooters who said they shot up their school after they were inspired by the movie, Natural Born Killers. And then there was the movie, Basketball Diaries that inspired another school shooting as the shooter mimicked the movie right down to the clothes the shooter wore.

Of course, Hollywooders and people with the common sense of a field mouse, will tell you these movies and society today has no bearing on these shootings. This is mostly correct except there is always the possibility of that one person who associates with something in the movie that motivates him. America is on a slippery slope and unless we make some drastic changes, things are only going to get worse.


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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Trapper7] #6158737
02/15/18 01:06 PM
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Agreed. People don't want their taxes to go up to pay for it. We should have LEO presence in every school.

Originally Posted By: Trapper7
All schools should have armed guards......


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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158740
02/15/18 01:11 PM
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We had cops in my High School and they did absolutely nothing.


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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158741
02/15/18 01:11 PM
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Kevlar school uninforms.


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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Marty] #6158752
02/15/18 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: Marty
Happy B-Day Adam.....clear out some room in your PM box.... smile


Thanks.
Cleared some for you

Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158753
02/15/18 01:22 PM
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We would not have these problems if people showing symptoms of lunacy were kept in straight jackets and round rooms, like the old days. Instead, we give them some medication and make excuses about how society has molded them into a gun-crazed lunatic that cannot be touched until he/she actually does something. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, well, you get the picture. There is some guy (a conservative republican) on a local radio show here today saying we should build new schools with bullet-proof glass, metal detectors at all doors and a buzz-in system with cameras, etc. along with prison-like high walls and razor wire to keep the crazy people out. Seems like it would be a lot less expensive to just lock up the poeple out there spewing mass murder plots, eh?


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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Teallbrook] #6158762
02/15/18 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: Teallbrook
We had cops in my High School and they did absolutely nothing.


Isn't that a good thing. LOL


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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158766
02/15/18 01:30 PM
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No, there were plenty of illegal activities going on. The guy would stand in the lunch room and give everyone dirty looks.


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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: trapperkeck] #6158769
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Originally Posted By: trapperkeck
We would not have these problems if people showing symptoms of lunacy were kept in straight jackets and round rooms, like the old days. Instead, we give them some medication and make excuses about how society has molded them into a gun-crazed lunatic that cannot be touched until he/she actually does something. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, well, you get the picture. There is some guy (a conservative republican) on a local radio show here today saying we should build new schools with bullet-proof glass, metal detectors at all doors and a buzz-in system with cameras, etc. along with prison-like high walls and razor wire to keep the crazy people out. Seems like it would be a lot less expensive to just lock up the poeple out there spewing mass murder plots, eh?


You are correct, I work with these people and instead of helping them they just dope them up. When they stop giving them the dope their whole world changes and they are worse off than before they were doped up.


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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158770
02/15/18 01:34 PM
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Well no one got killed. Maybe that's as far as his authority went.


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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158771
02/15/18 01:34 PM
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To the people suggesting arming the teachers, there is no way my kids would attend a school with armed teachers.
I don’t know what kind of teachers u guys have down there, but up here there are very, very few I would trust with a firearm. Training or not, not a chance.

Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158776
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Part of the problem is what kids are exposed to now on TV and videos a good read on desensitization is Lt. Col. Dave Grossmans book "on Killing" The military figured out how to get soldiers to get over the human instinct not to take a human life. With the Rambo stuff on TV and the video games kids are getting there heads really messed up. Throw in a broken home, some drugs and being bullied and it is a recipe that we see too much of. The gun is just a tool that is to often used and blamed in a sick society. I don't think or ever will think that gun control is the answer I do think it would be a good law however to make sure that if you do own guns that they have to be secured. I think Canada has a law that requires guns when not in use to be secured in a safe, it would not be a cure all. I do know that a lot of accidental shootings are caused by curious kids grabbing a gun stuffed under a mattress or shoved in a closet. Also a lot of guns that are used to commit crimes are stolen and are an easy to easy target of theft and end up in the wrong hands.

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