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NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA #6159544
02/16/18 11:36 AM
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Ontario,Canada
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I never really had much luck with foot holds for canines. Tried dirt hole set, post blind set ect. However im still giving it a good try again. Keep in mind we have lots of snow and a 4 foot frost line, so steaking and bedding is a challenge. Seems like our canines are in heat at this time. So im looking for advise for a effective set. I know were theres lots of tracks, and I recently did a dirt hole set baited with gland and fox urine. I made it look like a bomb went off( or a fox dug a hole) but there totally avoiding it. Any advise?

Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6160052
02/16/18 09:29 PM
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Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6160064
02/16/18 09:38 PM
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This may sound a bit on the extreme side. But when I did 7 weeks of trapping In Canada my buddy just pushed a 5 gallon bucket Into the snow bank with a 220 placed In the opening. The bucket was baited with beaver meat. WE caught quite a few fox this way.
But snares would be the way to go.


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Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6160439
02/17/18 10:11 AM
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You arent alone , The North .. Ive had 4 diffrent leghold sets out this winter for coyotes and only caught 4 foxes .Not like there's a shortage of them , Snares on the other hand picked up 114 . Much easier and cheaper to set too .

Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6160484
02/17/18 10:57 AM
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Ontario,Canada
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No worries, I got 17 bait piles with a couple hundred snares. Just trying something different. I'm a type that is bothered by failure grin

Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6160760
02/17/18 04:13 PM
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I mostly use snares also but right now the coyotes are mating and that means they’re making pee posts everywhere so what I do is plant a trap at every good spot they mark along my skidoo trail. I use drags wax paper sift all disturbances with snow make foot prints with a soda bottle and usually add quite a few yotes to the pile this way. 6 so far like this.

Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: Jasonj] #6160952
02/17/18 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: Jasonj
I mostly use snares also but right now the coyotes are mating and that means they’re making pee posts everywhere so what I do is plant a trap at every good spot they mark along my skidoo trail. I use drags wax paper sift all disturbances with snow make foot prints with a soda bottle and usually add quite a few yotes to the pile this way. 6 so far like this.


Do you add your own fox urine after making the set or just leave it as is?

Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6161145
02/17/18 11:12 PM
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Start your season with footholds then go to snares. Use footholds when it’s easy for you to use them. Pick your battles. The majority of my coyotes/fox are taken with footholds around the start of November when my Saskatchewan dirt hasn’t turned to concrete yet . Wax dirt will be your friend. Once trap beds need to be shovelled out of 2ft of snow or you need dynamite to dig out a bed then you can turn to snares if you like.

Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6161190
02/18/18 12:29 AM
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Depends on spot but usually right now they’re using pee post so regular I don’t use it to begin with but will give it a refresher after snow. I just push and twist trap into snow to bed it. Same as wolf set. Been a go to set for wolves in North forever. Also a piece of poop from another group works wonders. And try and do it out of your toboggan.

Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6161770
02/18/18 04:26 PM
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Well Jason, Took your advise and went out and did exactly what you said. I couldn't beleive my eyes when I went to check it this afternoon.

Thanks for the tip. Happy happy happy
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Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6161835
02/18/18 05:25 PM
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The thing i love about this forum is you express your delema or problem. And you get advise on how to solve it! What a great resource to have!
Thanks again wink

Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6162050
02/18/18 08:39 PM
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Right on!

Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6163825
02/20/18 10:55 AM
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Was thinking of trying a hay set. One guy on utube simply made a 2x2' bed and made a mound of straw, sat both traps loose on the straw bed and baited the mound and splashed with urine. I was just thinking how effective it would be knowing that the taps aren't bedded and loosly set on the straw.
Any thoughts?

Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6163933
02/20/18 12:40 PM
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I'd stick with the urine sets IMO.. Just like you did with the red fox. Just vary the size/type of the object you use for the backing and use some gland lure and Long call on some for variety.


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Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6164308
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Your right, why change something that works! grin

Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6164458
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Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6164482
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Buried bait set in the snow works well for the northern foxes late in the season.They are hungry this time of year in the north and dig down even in deep snow for old bones etc.
Years ago when I used footholds I took good numbers in winter with the pee post and buried bait for a changeup.I only had No 3 ls and did not like what they did to the fox,so went to all snares,but they were the only trap we had that could handle the snow.

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Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: The North] #6164511
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If you are asking just about fox, there is a set we used to use with effect in the mound set. This will take some work, but remember we were using these on location travel ways as you said this is mating season and fox are on the move, who have experienced all the pressure.
For mounds we used dry chicken manure. I have made these small as ant hills and large as you want to waste time with. The size is the attraction though and canines will on travel ways run on top of these.

If legal you can use old muskrat houses cut off and moved to travel lanes. If you have wind these mounds will blow free of snow and the dark color always contrasts with snow.

Place a 2 x 6 block on top and set on that, trap cover, and carefully use the duff. Staple this to a post as a drag, as you do not want the fox destroying the mound. You can use the post as big guide stick.

I prefer a call lure not on the mound to get the predators close, and you can use a matrix or gland lure on the post. If you have a big enough pile, you can set on the side too with a scent post, same set up of a drag pole.
Feathers help flutter and attract attention as much as directing toward the trap.
You can always use filler like bale or even a debris mound, and put the duff on top of that to save resources. Back in the day the trappers used to for January recreation have a couple of these working on hills in view from their porches or barns as they were easy to check.
Best to use a larger trap, offset in these sets.

Hope that helps.

Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: star flakes] #6164585
02/20/18 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: star flakes
If you are asking just about fox, there is a set we used to use with effect in the mound set. This will take some work, but remember we were using these on location travel ways as you said this is mating season and fox are on the move, who have experienced all the pressure.
For mounds we used dry chicken manure. I have made these small as ant hills and large as you want to waste time with. The size is the attraction though and canines will on travel ways run on top of these.

If legal you can use old muskrat houses cut off and moved to travel lanes. If you have wind these mounds will blow free of snow and the dark color always contrasts with snow.

Place a 2 x 6 block on top and set on that, trap cover, and carefully use the duff. Staple this to a post as a drag, as you do not want the fox destroying the mound. You can use the post as big guide stick.

I prefer a call lure not on the mound to get the predators close, and you can use a matrix or gland lure on the post. If you have a big enough pile, you can set on the side too with a scent post, same set up of a drag pole.
Feathers help flutter and attract attention as much as directing toward the trap.
You can always use filler like bale or even a debris mound, and put the duff on top of that to save resources. Back in the day the trappers used to for January recreation have a couple of these working on hills in view from their porches or barns as they were easy to check.
Best to use a larger trap, offset in these sets.

Hope that helps.


It is crazy you just mentioned that! not even two hours ago a friend called me and told me he had chicken manure in his straw bedding. and recommended i use it in the mound. Think I'll give it a go! smile

Re: NOT MUCH LUCK WITH FOOT HOLDS IN CANADA [Re: Boco] #6164815
02/21/18 03:38 AM
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[quote=Boco]Buried bait set in the snow works well for the northern foxes late in the season.They are hungry this time of year in the north and dig down even in deep snow for old bones etc.
Years ago when I used footholds I took good numbers in winter with the pee post and buried bait for a changeup.I only had No 3 ls and did not like what they did to the fox,so went to all snares,but they were the only trap we had that could handle the snow.
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Are fox not scrubby and worthless now? I seen one the other day where I am working on the Diamond ice road near Yellowknife and it was really scrubby

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