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Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: Ditchdiver] #6165312
02/21/18 03:05 PM
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The large majority of the population will give up freedoms for perceived safety.

Most today have no comprehension of what it is to take care of themselves if things go badly....both of these things are a result of becoming a soft/successful society. Even the cops are not used to dealing with self sufficient people. Armed law abiding citizens are often perceived as a threat just because they are armed or very proficient with firearms..I have experienced that myself while traffic stopped and at gun ranges. But I have also been stopped/interacted with law enforcement that were not that way.

If the cop shootings keep happening at the rate they are more cops will be shifting into the former category.

Bump stocks are a way around a law......ban them and it is OK with me but do not change the age for a long gun purchase.

Students are walking out and rallying today...for more anti gun laws. The politicians will go where the wind blows......look for 'common sense' gun control laws at the state/local level to increase.

It is a shame but many people see anyone who carries a gun as a potential threat not a potential threat stopper.


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Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: Tweed] #6165318
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Originally Posted By: Tweed
Age of majority is age of majority. If you're 18 you should be able to buy a gun. I do not agree with the current 21 year old handgun law either.


I agree. If you're old enough to go to war, you should be eligible to buy a gun.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: ~ADC~] #6165321
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Originally Posted By: ~ADC~
Makes you all wish Hillary would of won, huh? crazy


Not at all. How about yourself?


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Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: FairbanksLS] #6165324
02/21/18 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: ~ADC~
Makes you all wish Hillary would of won, huh? crazy


Not at all. How about yourself?


No, I wouldn't want to be president either. Thanks for your vote of confidence though. smile

Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: ~ADC~] #6165332
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Originally Posted By: ~ADC~
Makes you all wish Hillary would of won, huh? crazy


That’s going a little to far!! I do think Trump got elected for his 2nd amendment stance, his immigration and the wall stance as well. He also campaigned on giving the schools back to the states. I just think he better keep his promises or we will be looking at a Hillary equivalent in 2020.

Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: Ditchdiver] #6165335
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These cowardly shooters hit schools because they are gun-free zones. Let's face it, we are never going back to the Ozzie & Harriet days. Times have changed and in this case, not for the better.

Most of these guys are in it for the publicity and notoriety they think it gives them. If the media would not name or photograph the perpetrator, it might not look so inviting to go in and shoot up an innocent bunch of kids. Some of these shooters even made video recordings prior. Look at all the copycats the Florida incident spawned.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: Ditchdiver] #6165337
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To bad because if you were running against Hillary you would get my vote. The same reason I voted for Trump.


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Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: FairbanksLS] #6165355
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I know what you're saying Gray Dog. My stance was stated many times prior to the election, "anyone but Hillary".

I knew going in I wouldn't agree with everything Trump does but he was still the best choice of the only two people who could become president. If you're a gun owner and its important to you, he was the only reasonable one to vote for and I still stand behind that 100%. No matter how bad he does, he's better than her.

Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: ~ADC~] #6165359
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Originally Posted By: ~ADC~
I know what you're saying Gray Dog. My stance was stated many times prior to the election, "anyone but Hillary".

I knew going in I wouldn't agree with everything Trump does but he was still the best choice of the only two people who could become president. If you're a gun owner and its important to you, he was the only reasonable one to vote for and I still stand behind that 100%. No matter how bad he does, he's better than her.


I really didn't see much difference between the two other than one was better at talking (Hillary) and the other was better at motivating (Trump)


Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: Ditchdiver] #6165379
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The grit of the American man has vanished. Long before this latest compromise by trump and the NRA. It is hard to find the exact point on the timeline. When I heard voting for the lesser of two evils dogma is when I realized we're done. "Well at least he's better than her". Turn out the lights, the parties over. Another clue that the grit is gone are the comments that people are too busy to protest, tp become involved in politics besides showing up to vote and ridiculing those that do vote differently. Keep sending those checks to the compromiser-in-chief until the whole works ends up in a dust heap.

Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: Ditchdiver] #6165380
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Tweed are you a snowflake ? Just asking..lol


IT'S A SOUTHERN THANG
Y'ALL WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND

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Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: TNcat] #6165388
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Originally Posted By: TNcat
Tweed are you a snowflake ? Just asking..lol


No....not sure how you would come to that conclusion. Are some of my observations triggering you?


As stated by others....Trump wasn't their favorite candidate. They picked the less of two evils. To me....Trump just seemed like a different version of Hillary but with better marketing.

And now today, little more than a year after inauguration he seems to be shifting towards gun control.

Maybe I'll be wrong...

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Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: FlyinFinn] #6165393
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
The grit of the American man has vanished. Long before this latest compromise by trump and the NRA. It is hard to find the exact point on the timeline. When I heard voting for the lesser of two evils dogma is when I realized we're done. "Well at least he's better than her". Turn out the lights, the parties over. Another clue that the grit is gone are the comments that people are too busy to protest, tp become involved in politics besides showing up to vote and ridiculing those that do vote differently. Keep sending those checks to the compromiser-in-chief until the whole works ends up in a dust heap.


Did you vote third party and did that gritty vote protect your gun rights?

I have many times but for this election I chose the lesser of two evils. A Hillary win would have been disastrous for what I believe in.

Sometimes a man's got to do what a man's got to do. In this case the end justifies the means.


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Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: Ditchdiver] #6165394
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Tweed ... no I can’t be triggered.


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Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: Ditchdiver] #6165432
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It all boils down to "shall not be infringed"

Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: Ditchdiver] #6165445
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The Pres. is going to have to throw them a bone, bump stocks it is. I wonder if binary triggers will go also?

Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: frank1969] #6165448
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"Claiming some of the students on tv after #Parkland are actors is the work of a disgusting group of idiots with no sense of decency"

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Originally Posted By: frank1969
Just listen to the kids it's been all scripted, they were saying things that they would have never heard of, just to many things stink hear, this is reminds me of another shooting but not the last two big ones


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Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: Ditchdiver] #6165551
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Must of been thinking of this fake one from before.



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Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: Ditchdiver] #6165567
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I'd suggest that any photo can be edited but that would be ridiculous. Of course they couldn't be because a conservative is to honest to do that.


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Re: What the heck, Trump?!?! [Re: FairbanksLS] #6165585
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A bunch of high school students left class today to protest about gun control with some of our Democratic "leaders" in Madison,WI. A 15 year old girl was wailing on the radio that she was forced to learn at 5 years of age, how to hide under her desk and hope to avoid getting shot. At 5 years of age I was shown how to get to the cellar of our school where emergency supplies were stored, stay low and kiss your as goodby as the Commies were going to nuke us. Nothing I could do about that but at 5 years old I would have been able to return fire to a school shooter with my Red Ryder.

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