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Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: Boco] #6165535
02/21/18 06:42 PM
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Had 3 western heavy coyotes travel a long ways to Kansas. First lot semi's,majority 1 page semi heavy. So much for me only having commercial coyotes,lol.

Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: tbn] #6165549
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Hey if you are upset about them western heavy coyotes you can move them over to my account. grin

Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: Boco] #6165674
02/21/18 08:36 PM
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I found out I don't know a thing about grading coon. I thought and have told people that this year's coon are some of the worse I have caught as a whole collection. They all seemed to have tick bites, small pin holes, scabs from old sores, just plain ugly on the leather side. When I was taking furs off the boards my daughter would wipe down the coon and for her effort I let her pick 3 coons out and I put them in the extra account and she will get the money. She asks, which ones and I said any one's you think are look good, she picks 3 coons with, IMO not one blimish on the what so ever. All 3 off those coon graded I-II, the other 42 coon were put on the other account and 17 went select, 5 went I's. I know there is a lot more than just leather that goes into the grading, but I am disappointed for her.

Also I caught 4 cats off the same property with 75 yards of each other, 2 went western and 2 went southwestern. To bad they were last years kittens, not very big all measured in at larges

This is not a complaint, overall my grades are better that expected can't wait for next week


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Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: tbn] #6165679
02/21/18 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: tbn
Had 3 western heavy coyotes travel a long ways to Kansas. First lot semi's,majority 1 page semi heavy. So much for me only having commercial coyotes,lol.


No all the commercial ones were down here apparently! Lol. Did have some Coons grade a bit better than I thought though.

Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: Boco] #6165681
02/21/18 08:41 PM
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Curious if they graded any northern or mostly north central on your coon?

Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: Boco] #6165690
02/21/18 08:48 PM
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tbn most of my coons went western north central and semi. Only had one go northern. That's how it's been that last two years for me, before that I would generally have half go western northern and the other half western north central. I didn't have one grade semi until last year. This isn't a big sample size only 40-130 each year.


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Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: Boco] #6165747
02/21/18 09:41 PM
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What is difference on beaver between a slight an slt? Seems like bigger 3xl beaver get graded hard there,or at least ones I got an lm an meduim on down good, what are auction beaver going for? I pretty happy with grades on everything else, I don't see coon colors graded 5 nomore, just 1 though 4, how good is 3 color

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Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: Boco] #6165753
02/21/18 09:46 PM
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I thought all my 3xl beaver were graded harder than normal as well.

Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: coonman220] #6165754
02/21/18 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: coonman220
What is difference on beaver between a slight an slt? Seems like bigger 3xl beaver get graded hard there,or at least ones I got an lm an meduim on down good, what are auction beaver going for? I pretty happy with grades on everything else, I don't see coon colors graded 5 nomore, just 1 though 4, how good is 3 color

I believe the difference is the "damage" (loosely used term) is either on the leather or on the fur side


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Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: tbn] #6165756
02/21/18 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: tbn
Had 3 western heavy coyotes travel a long ways to Kansas. First lot semi's,majority 1 page semi heavy. So much for me only having commercial coyotes,lol.

Curious, where do you think the "commercials" are in the nafa catalogs?


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Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: Starvalleytrappe] #6165774
02/21/18 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: Starvalleytrappe
Originally Posted By: tbn
Had 3 western heavy coyotes travel a long ways to Kansas. First lot semi's,majority 1 page semi heavy. So much for me only having commercial coyotes,lol.

Curious, where do you think the "commercials" are in the nafa catalogs?


I would say the semi heavys. Everyone tells us we have a semi heavy commercial coyote in Kansas. Year in and out my coyotes get graded semi heavy at NAFA

Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: tbn] #6165777
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Originally Posted By: tbn
Curious if they graded any northern or mostly north central on your coon?


I had a couple go Western/Nothern but most in Western/north Central. Also had a handful in semi-heavy

Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: Boco] #6165780
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I wish everyone the best of luck
May the competition be fierce


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Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: Boco] #6165817
02/21/18 10:50 PM
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On the 1 of the 2 big beaver, I could not get all tough fat off without risk of cutting though, so I came back for several days after with dull knife an squgee out fat while stretched an did leave marks, anytime u do that,it leaves marks on dry hide, could the marks cause it to be downgraded?

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Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: Boco] #6165823
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U would think alot the heavy big jumbo selects an 1s, coon well sell an hopefully not just better colors

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Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: Boco] #6165830
02/21/18 11:01 PM
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Something is strange.

I had 8 coyotes from Northern MT on this sale and 3 were graded as 3xl eastern. There was not 1 that was a 35 lb coyote,!!!
and 1 graded as a "red"

Hmm. Really don't think my pick up guy should be handling my furs once bagged!! whistle


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Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: Boco] #6165848
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I have coon graded as northern, north central an new grade as western semi, what difference between a north central an a Western semi ? Never notice this in past

Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: Boco] #6165856
02/21/18 11:35 PM
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The North centrals will sell and your semi heavies may not. LLL


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Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: LLtrapper] #6165863
02/21/18 11:53 PM
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I felt my rats were on average a tad smaller than last year. This year the size grade is averaging a bit better than the last two years and my grade is much higher than the last couple years.
In the past better grade and size indicated a up word moving market. We don't have long to wait now.
I caught very few coons this year. I had 1 Western Northern and all the rest 14 were western north centrals with no 11 grades, but color was pretty average for me which is not so good.
Bryce

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Re: Lotting letter is up. [Re: Boco] #6165868
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I can't rember anyhow this semi heavy grade in this area before, maybe something new nafa started,i heard semi heavy but not around here

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