Here in Ky we are averaging 2-3 a day of idiot kids calling in threats. Some are posting on social media. They have arrested a bunch. BUT IF THEY WANT TO STOP IT ARREST THE PARENTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
All it would take is throw mom and or dad in jail one time and it would end. If it got out that the parents had to bear some responsibility of the actions little johnny or Susie wouldn't be so fast to pull a prank.

i agree

I concur.

I have a brother that has routinely gotten into trouble with the law. We were raised in the same home with two parents who loved us and disciplined us routinely. We were brought up going to church and taught the value of hard work and responsibility. My folks raised us to make quality decisions. My brother has not made quality decisions. To say that parents should be disciplined for the decisions their children make is a ludicrous argument! Obviously each situation is different but it’s these types of hasty generalizations that simply pit people against each other.

Just my 2 cents

I kind of agree. But I think they need to punish the kids with something that has some teeth in it. We need to have an old time Boot Camp that kids have to go to when they break the law. If the parents aren't going to teach values then drill it into the kids heads at a military style boot camp until they respect authority and obey the laws.

Come to think of it theirs a few parents that could use that also. I hear where your coming from KR, there are just some kids that will never learn no matter what.

Wait. Isn’t this the place where people get upset because they blame the gun not the shooter? Why then would we want to blame the parent not the child. Kids don’t have consequences for their actions today. This is just another example of placing blame where it doesn’t belong. Hold the perp accountable and do it routinely enough that others pay attention. Maybe then things will change.

Now a days parents or teachers aren’t allowed to properly discipline kids, i don’t think it would be fair to incarcerate parents for something the child has done if their not even allowed to knock some sense into them. I’m only 39 and i remember getting many a butt whippins in school and at home. Ironically i’ve never been convicted or even charged with a single crime.

Jbyrd, are you for or against spanking your kids?

We simply live in a world of good and evil,you are one or the other.You either live life right,know what is right and wrong and choose the right path or be corrupt,lie,cheat, steal and pay the consequences.Kids are greatly influenced by those around them.Those kids spend more time with teachers,coaches and classmates than they do with parents generally when they get home at 5 or 6 and you see them for 3 or 4 hours in the evenings.

Parents do not really raise the kids anymore, for the most part......ymmv.

Coyote parenting "old enough to walk your on your own!"

I've heard of two threats in our county, and today they hauled a kid out for making threats.
Crazy

had the same here last week hippie in my tiny little town.

Ask yourself why would so many kids do that then and think it was OK and what can we learn from this in the end?

The one that calls it in is at fault. Not mom and dad.

The media dwells on the act too much and not the punishment. I would like to see the punishment go more public. If it's life in prison follow the guy periodically so other wannabes would get an idea of how much fun life in prison really is. Or, if it's death like this Florida shooter should get, have it on live TV to wake up copycats to the consequences. Some will say that's being barbaric and by doing that you're no better than the shooter, which is a very stupid thing to say. Of course, you're better than the shooter, you didn't kill 17 innocent people.

Until the child is eighteen parents should be held accountable. The parents should hold themselves accountable first and foremost, the rest of society can get in line behind. Many of us parents have proudly raised great offspring with that method. It works.
Quit with the excuses.

Osky

I wouldn't have wanted my parents to have been responsible for things i did before i was 18.
I had a job.
I had a car.
And there was no way they could control what i did.

Personally, I don't think there is a solution. Some say we need to instill a little fear and make them think a little bit before acting out. IDK, You can't play mind games with an unarmed opponent!

State facilities are telling judges DONT SEND ANY MORE TO PRISON. WERE FULL. 160% capacity in this state.

Kids making threats get attention and they know nothing will happen to them.

Not really excuses bud just an example of how kids will make decisions regardless of how they are raised. My guess is you are oblivious to some of the bad decisions your kids have made. Ultimately, the kids should be held accountable for their behavior the witch hunt you suggest is irrational. Congrats though I am sure your parent of the decade award is in the mail.

My sister got in way more trouble than I did. Raised in the same home. I reckon they could have thrown my mom in jail and you would have been happy osky? That would have been great for me. Silly notion. My sister is a cop now. Her daughter my niece got in some trouble. Maybe they should have hung my sister. Fired her from her job. Brilliant. That'll teach them.

Where do the consequences come from? Mom/Pop, some need motivation to apply them.

Even when parents give solid consequences some will still make bad decisions. Why does everyone assume if a child goes stupid their parents haven’t levied consequences?

correction, why do you assume parents have?

Osky

Why do you assume they haven’t. You strike me as the I do everything right but no one else does type. So it probably doesn’t behoove me to engage.

Light em up !!!!

What age was he making all these bad decisions ??? I bet if your parents had to go to the police station in the back of a car one time their "methods" of discipline may have changed. NOT SAYING your parents did anything wrong !!! NEVER would slam a good parent. But now days there are more parents that think their offspring does no wrong. We all see where that attitude is going in society. !!!

Plus during my growing up days if the "problem" child did happen as you described your brother , parents sent them to "reform school" . But we can't do that now might lower little johnny's self esteem.

Then people wonder why the things are happening today with our society........

MY 2 cents

I think you are missing my point. I am just trying to get the absent parents to be held accountable. Parents now just buy them a gaming system or a PC and let them lock themselves in their rooms. My wife just retired from teaching high school algebra. After 30 years she tells me it is amazing how parents have changed over that time. NOT FOR THE GOOD !!!! Parent teacher conferences are no longer to discuss how to help the students. It has become a gripe session so the parents can tell the teacher how bad of a job they are doing. The kid sleeps thru class, never turns in homework, turns an exam in with nothing but a name on it, and fails but some how its the teachers effort that falls short !!! This is becoming more the norm than people realize.

Which parent are you arresting? The "baby daddy" or the "proud single mom"?

LOL Both ! Odds are the baby daddy got a warrant for back child support ...........

No I get your point but let take it one step further then. It was your generation that raised the terrible parents of today. Let’s lock up the grand parents too! No easy answers. I guess there are some situations that I would agree and say hold the parents accountable. Just not as easy as saying that’s the case all the time.

Boy, you said a mouthful there. I thought my two older boys were Saints until they hit their 30's and started telling stories of the things they did when they were young. If I would have known, I would have beat their Butts!

Ha ha yeah Bic. I shared some stories with my folks post 30 and I thought my dad was gonna come across the table and let me have it.

Bad parenting doesn't make a kid buy a gun and go kill classmates!

Bet it doesn't help . BUT THE POST WAS about kids calling in threats just for kicks. Happening everyday around here.

If you wait to instill discipline until the cops call you down to pick up Jr. you're too late...

I fear we have let things get to the point that it's too late for a lot of these kids. Some might turn themselves around after they face serious consequences, but statistically a lot never will.

There have always been kids who strayed, and there were always negligent parents. One could argue the percentage of bad kids/parents is the same and we are seeing the same percentage of a doubled population... Or maybe we have more rotten kids/parents than ever before... I don't know. It sure seems there are more disinterested parents and disrespectful kids than there used to be.

Mike

It's hard to tell the difference between the kids who are a serious threat and the kids who call in a threat to get an extra long weekend cause the school was closed...

I would imagine the majority are looking to get the school closed and have a day off.

I don't condone it and I think they need a good buttkicking if that's the case. But I think people need to realize that there probably is not an army of assassin kids out there. It's a tiny minority of kids who commit mass shootings.

Mike

Agreed. Some kids may just have bad wiring. I've seen good folks turn out bad kids...

But parental involvement and guidance might stem the tide.

And I know college educated people with good jobs who have the social justice warrior mentality. They're good providers, but everything is perceived as oppression and everyone else is at fault... They pass that on to their kids... Perhaps some of these kids feel they are entitled to enact revenge on every perceived slight or "injustice" they experience.

Mike

there have been parents that neglected their kids or physically ,mentally or sexually abbused their kids forever. there have been semi auto assault rifles for many years . there have been wholesale addhd medicating going on since the early 90's .

Yes, kill the parents on the spot or Put them in jail. Then the state can finish out the kids. Lol. With my money. Brilliant.

Hold the kid responsible. They did it, they can eat it.

Good lord.

That's right. They get a little unruly in school or at home you can't discipline them. someone convinces the parents the kid needs pills. If the parents don't get the pills? Bad parents. Bullcrap on the pills.

7 arrests made in nm last night for school threats even some of them say it was a joke now they face felonies

My mother is a 30 year teacher. Thank God she's looking at retirement. The stories she has, I'd like her to write a book. I can't believe kids parents anymore. I'm 30, and still afraid to upset my parents in any way. That's what we lost with the school age generation. I had plenty of education growing up, something kids today don't understand.

Can't remember the year, probably mid 90 I was in class at a Catholic school. We had a special individual that was always trouble. He made a threat one day. The principal came for him, you could tell the principal was upset. The kid knew what it was about and tried the you can't catch me in the classroom. The principal ended up picking up a desk and throwing it at him. The whole classroom was tore up. I won't say what happened when he caught the kid but it was a real education. The kid wasn't welcome in another school. That's what we need

Had one today at our school the child threatened to shoot up the school then blow it up, local law found a kill list in his pocket and video on some site them kids use of him practice rapid fire with a 9 mm and other guns, this is out of hand. Now these kids need to be made an example of I'm sorry I'd had enough.

8 years of catholic school, my parents didn't need to smack me up. There were nuns everywhere with erasers and sticks just waiting to use them on someone. LOL! I gotta say, once I got a taste of freedom at a public school, I turned bad and made all kinds of trouble. It wasnt until after boot camp that I got my head and butt wired back together again. Beatings only work while the one holding the stick are watching. Give a kid something to believe in, and he wont dishonor himself.

Just heard on 10 o clock news school cancelled tomorrow here in Iowa at Dubuque Senior for threats of school shootings.

They should. Not a funny joke at all.

Obviously the spoiled favorite kid.

I raise mine, and it's a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) of a lot of work!

I agree with this, some one will be screaming their second amendment rights are being trampled though!

We live in a culture which glorifies violence. Threats need to be taken very seriously with serious consequences. Also, the media attention these depraved mass murderers who commit these crimes needs to end. Mayby don't use their name, don't show their face, don't give them the notoriety they crave and seek by doing these acts. Most (if not all) school shooters are obsessed with and read about other school shootings.

Totally ridiculous notion.

The vast majority of kids that take idiocracy to this level have zero respect for authority, and that includes their parents. They likely despise and resent their parents.

Now, let these kids know that if they do something stupid their Mom and Dad will go to jail.......just what do you suppose the outcome of that might be?
There will be an immediate up-tick in the number of violent threats and violent acts carried out just to spite their parents.

So Dad is a senior mechanic that works 60 hours a week. Mom is an successful engineer who provides a very comfortable living for her kids. They instill discipline, love and religion into their kids.
3 out of 4 kids are well adjusted angels, but little Johnny is a holy terror.
Johnny calls in a bomb threat to get out of a Friday exam.
And it's Mom and Dad's fault???

You are teaching the kid that he's not responsible for his own thoughts and actions?
Somebody else will clean up your messes?
You can keep your freedom, we'll take somebody else's away?

3 of our local schools had shoot em' up threats yesterday alone.

I know 2 of 3 were already caught. Not sure how they were handled yet.

LOL you guys still crack me up . OK let me get this straight. Little Johnny misses school and IN KY after so many days (truancy) the parents get hauled into court. BUT let little johnny make a felony threat and it has nothing to do with HOW OR WHAT his parents do.. Yea right. MY point is that if one set of parents had to go to court they would be more involved in what johnny is doing. Many a kid has been sent to a group home after the parents got called into court because johnny missed !!!!!!!!!

Why is school attendance mandatory? Shouldn't it be up to parents and the kid? What good is accomplished by forcing the kid of dead beat parents to go to a school where the kid doesn't want to be? The parents don't care one way or the other. The little hellion will just disrupt the educating of those who choose it.

Liberty. Coming to a city near you!

Plus your example just proves my point even more. Parents working 60 hours a week means little johnny raising himself !!!!!!!!!!!

Ok uuugh maybe because it is the law? Lot like paying your taxes. Leaving things "up to the parents" is why we have so many issues today. The "parents" are too busy to even know what they're up to. Out of sight out of mind Parenting 101 in the 21st century. Sad but true!!!!!

My mother and step-father raised 5 kids, my mother believed in the out of sight out of mind idea and my step-father was always working 16 hours a day to provide the life my mother wanted. If we had a question my mother would just say sit down and shut up. My step-father was an awesome guy, when he was home he taught me a lot, I learned how to do electrical work, some woodworking (little things), tile work, drywall work, general home repairs etc but he had to work to feed, cloth, educate, and give us a decent life. Sometimes it wasn't enough, if the overtime was cut off it got real hard real fast, churches delivered food to us at times, we got bags of clothes from strangers sometimes, church members would hand my mother a little wad of cash on the low so as to not cause embarrassment for us, people were kind to us and I always remembered and respected that my whole life.

My mother, on the other hand, didn't seem to respect those gifts because she always bought cigarettes and top quality food for herself while making 5 kids eat the cheapest foods she could find, drink powdered milk and puffed rice/wheat cereals, tons and tons of pinto beans (so much that to this day I will not buy them or eat them) and she would sit down in front of us and pour whole milk onto her lucky charms cereal and chow down two bowls and never think twice about it. Of the 5 kids, 3 of them turned out to be deadbeat adults, 2 of which have warrants out for their financial behaviors and none of them to this day have a pot to pee in, the 4th is my step-sister who lives in Florida and is pretty self-reliant and lives a decent life and then there is me LOL, the one kid my mother thought would turn out to be the evil serial killer, who loved guns from an early age and always wanted to join the Army to serve and protect my country. I have a wife and two kids, a home (I bought when I was single), 2 cars and I hold a job and put food on my table (nothing but whole milk and quality food here!)to give my family the life I always wanted, my wife and I are very active daily in our kids lives and I enjoy teaching my son as much as I can but I tell him often (even though he is only 3.5) that I have to be a father first, sometimes it hurts me just as much to punish him but if I don't then I am not being a good father. I will not let myself fall to the ways of apathy just to get the things I want, I will not let others raise my kids with their ideals, I will Love my kids first, teach them, discipline them as needed and I believe God will help me with the rest!

Sorry for the family history!

All are school district an bigger town close by are shut today again, thousands out school because shooting threats I see on news,when they or if catch. It out mandatory prison time for such stuff, we supposed have biggest county community district in Iowa for school, I live close by, I thinking there got be undercovefs around an law enforcement on high alert

Many of these imbeciles don't have a clue as to the consequences of their actions. They aren't thinking about that part. They see something that impresses them and they act on it. A guy on the radio was telling about 3 boys in his community who watched a movie where 3 guys beat another kid almost to death. They thought it would be cool to see what it would be like to do the same. So, they found a nerdy kid from school and the three of them put him in intensive care. They all ended up in prison. That's the part the media brushes over.

I say go back in a few years and interview some of these morons and ask them how much fun it is to know you will spend the rest of your life behind these walls? If they are getting death, make it a televised execution. Show these people whose body goes into gear before their brain does what happens when they do stupid things.

Yes, shoot the parents on the spot. Get m jaybird. We gotta desperate the kids from parents. It takes a village.

Been constant here in my town. And i thought terrorism was to be punishment to the fullest.

My boy just texted. Cops are piling into his high school mow. Not sure what's going on. I'm waiting on him to call me.

The law needs changed. This idea that somehow government can take care of people is just not true. There is no end to it. There will always be lazy people, crazy people, and criminals. Bad things are going to happen to good people. Lock up thieves murderers and rapists. Protect society from them as best we can. Leave everyone else to live their own life as they see fit. All this social engineering is creating more problems which brings more social engineering. Time to quit. Social workers are worse parasites than welfare queens.


socialism doesn't work
gun control doesn't work
liberty built our country
the socialist, big brother government we all enjoy now is destroying it

All is good. Kid posted school shooting threats on facebook. My boy said he doesn't think they found a gun on him. But they got the kid.

Dang ! That boy needs a serious whoopin

damian worez is the kids name my boy said. Cole left school and just pulled in to the house.

They did get the kid. The kid posted information on Facebook talking of a shooting. Not sure of the details. The administration was told about the kid and his post. They went looking for him and couldn't find him where he was supposed to be. All he'll broke loose. My boy said a friend of his saw him in the bathroom earlier and thought even then he was hiding.
The kid was found and was still at the school when my boy got in his truck and came home.

Said he had knots in his guts. It was time to go home.

Sounds like a kid that needs to spend a year or so in jail. Those are terroristic threats, punishable offenses.

Exactly , Trapper 7 . And to think kids are having fun with this

That's why they need see there will be consequences to all of this. The media needs to make it very clear and they have the power to do just that.

I'm still not positive on the details. The school called and said everything is good now. Sooo.

My boy knows the kid. We talked and he said the kid might fit the profile everyone might have of someone that might do this. Kids might pick on him because of it. But he also said they have 20 others like him. Its just hard to tell.

I don't know the exact threat yet.

There has been a threat at the school district where my wife and I work at , plus last week they arrested a duty aid at my wife's elementary school where she works at for having child porn and selling it.

This is what I've been harping on for a while now...

He got on facebook and made a threat which caused a disturbance... And they got HIM for it.

They didn't ban facebook or restrict people's access to it...

They busted the kid who abused it.

It's amazing how we apply common sense to all of our other rights. But we try to take away 2A rights from everyone when someone abuses it.

Mike

Most importantly...

Madco I'm glad your boy is OK.

Mike

Yea do away with the social workers. THE one outlet that has saved several kids from abuse... Real smart.

jbyrd whats really scary is you probably believe that.

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Wonder where his "parents" where while he was doing all this posting. My whole point is if parents were held more responsible for their kids actions than there would be LOTS less locked away in their room sexting and playing on the "devils playground" ( face book for you slow people).
Agree or disagree that's my opinion and the fact is Parents are NOT held liable and look what is happening. How you do you like the facts !!!! DO NOTHING let it continue !!!!!!
One thing you guys must admit if your kids could get you taken to jail because of this nonsense I bet you would sit them down and warn them it better not happen !!!!!!!!
All it would take is the threat of being arrested and the parents would do what they should already be doing ....

But a village full of idiots only raise more idiots.
Bottom line that is the problem

The problem is that the government can't mandate that people raise their kids right...

Some social workers will yank your kids if you spank them.

See how we are chasing our tails here?

We asked the government to step in and they did... And turned right around and removed discipline from parents.

So now we are reaping the rewards.

Mike

I do NOT advocate abusing a kid, but once or twice in a lifetime...if done correctly, some form of corporal punishment is warranted. If done correctly, after that, all you need to do is give them a look.
Some states want CPS and all that involved if word gets out about it to the wrong ears. But let me ask you this. You would surely give your life to protect your children wouldn't you? If you wouldn't, then you shouldn't have kids, because that's what your roll is. So why would a little jail time stop you from doing what you have to do to bring them up properly?

Your right on. I still don't know the whole story. Tons of rumors.

I got a couple boys here talking about it. They are jack up. They are saying there was 2 threats. Later the halls were locked down. Weird. The school sent a robo call that all is good.
To be honest I haven't talked to any officials. Apparently someone wrote I want to be a famous school shooter on the bathroom wall. The boys went to see it and said it was freshly painted over. Soooo

The second call we got said they were investigating a rumor. Hmmmm. No mention of the painting.

If you write a book on parenting I'll buy it.

If I ever write a book like that I would give it away. Thanks Grey Dog

My baby girl was just in the local paper today.
At 6 years old she won an award for being "Kind, Respectful, and Safe" at school.
I couldn't be more proud of her, and I feel I'm doing a pretty darn good job of raising her while I work 60 hours a week.
My dad worked 14-16 hours a day when he was trying to run a 400 head dairy farm pretty much by himself.......while raising 4 kids.

You are obviously a liberal with your way of thinking. I've tried understanding people like you, but there's just no sense in it anymore.

I raised mine as a single parent. I worked 14s every chance I got while the older one looked after the younger one. ( Both boys thank God) I wouldn't know anything about raising a girl. I'm real proud with how solid they turned out. We're like brothers because I included them in almost every activity I did. Hunting and fishing, I taught them to scuba dive real young because I wanted to go, but didnt want to leave them on the beach. They grew up hard working solid men that people could count on, and to this day I am reminded by people who they helped out in tight spots that I never knew about when they were kids. They were there to see the example I lay down every day and I guess it stuck.It doesn't stop there. My kids are grown now, and I see allot of myself in them. We talk almost every day, and when times are slow, we hang out at each others place. Anything else would just be weird.