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NAFA predictions #6168683
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Been hearing alot of rumors, none are great news. Hear it will be gloom and doom and I've heard potentially 10-20% better on coon..and thoughts?

Re: NAFA predictions [Re: mr8point] #6168720
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Not sure what happen, sometimes in past I rember good sale or not many coon sell an pick better ones out, next sale, all sell, no idea

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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: mr8point] #6168773
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I'm interested to see what coyotes and fox do

Re: NAFA predictions [Re: mr8point] #6168842
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Pretty quite in the country on coyote prices now a days ,


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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: mr8point] #6168847
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I think those that sold coyotes in the country are going to be pretty disappointed after the auction sales are finished and the prices of the different grades are published.


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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: coonman220] #6168887
02/24/18 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: coonman220
Not sure what happen, sometimes in past I rember good sale or not many coon sell an pick better ones out, next sale, all sell, no idea


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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: Boco] #6168905
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Originally Posted By: Boco
I think those that sold coyotes in the country are going to be pretty disappointed after the auction sales are finished and the prices of the different grades are published.

On a general trapper run or your typical top the pile type selling to Nafa?


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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: red mt] #6168952
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Percentage of clearance will be what I will look at closely.

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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: walleyed] #6168960
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Originally Posted By: walleyed
Originally Posted By: coonman220
Not sure what happen, sometimes in past I rember good sale or not many coon sell an pick better ones out, next sale, all sell, no idea


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some sales they cherry pick some the whole shebang gets sold


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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: mr8point] #6169102
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Good marketable fur of course,there is no market for poor fur right now.

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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: Boco] #6169137
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Originally Posted By: Boco
I think those that sold coyotes in the country are going to be pretty disappointed after the auction sales are finished and the prices of the different grades are published.

I think if the guys who shipped are honest, their top will be better but overall average will probably be pretty close. Unfortunately auction averages usually only consist of first sections.


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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: trapperne] #6169141
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Originally Posted By: trapperne
Originally Posted By: Boco
I think those that sold coyotes in the country are going to be pretty disappointed after the auction sales are finished and the prices of the different grades are published.

I think if the guys who shipped are honest, their top will be better but overall average will probably be pretty close. Unfortunately auction averages usually only consist of first sections.

Agreed


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I'd be pretty disappointed if my avg wasn't a good bit above the auction avg.I have seen the bins full of very poor fur they have to lot and try to sell.

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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: mr8point] #6169157
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Boco I agree there poor fur handling for sure,
But there needs to be more informative report other than 1st.section stuff

Needs to be the Good the Bad And the uglyyyyyyy kind of report.

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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: mr8point] #6169161
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They may not offer them on this sale but eventually there will be pages of 1-3 $ coyotes


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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: mr8point] #6169167
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No doubt.Red,most of the sec 3 fur is not from poor handling(some of course is).It is unprimed and damaged fur. Sec 3 fur is an extremely small percentage of a collection in a normal trapping season for trappers.I wouldn't want to try to figure out my income and expenses on an auction avg that includes sec 3 fur.That would not be a true reflection of a normal collection of fur.That is why it is never included in an auction avg of marketable fur.I don't know any trapper that would want that stuff included in the sale avg.

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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: mr8point] #6169178
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They do provide valuable service to fur industry for sure the report imo just needs to be more inclusive.


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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: Boco] #6169199
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Originally Posted By: Boco
No doubt.Red,most of the sec 3 fur is not from poor handling(some of course is).It is unprimed and damaged fur. Sec 3 fur is an extremely small percentage of a collection in a normal trapping season for trappers.I wouldn't want to try to figure out my income and expenses on an auction avg that includes sec 3 fur.That would not be a true reflection of a normal collection of fur.That is why it is never included in an auction avg of marketable fur.I don't know any trapper that would want that stuff included in the sale avg.


Well where the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) do they come from, must be normal for someone. If your
Not including every skin it’s not a true average


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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: mr8point] #6169204
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Agreed
The average is all skins. Period


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Re: NAFA predictions [Re: mr8point] #6169206
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I want to know the avg of sec 3 skins to know if they are worth shipping or not.We pay royalties on skins here and a beaver that is only worth 3 dollars as a sec 3 will put you in the hole after royalty and commission,etc.If they are 5 or 6 avg they may get sent.
I get maybe 3 or 4 sec 3 skins from dmg out of a few hundred.I don't want to see those type of skins in the auction avg,it would not be a true avg of a normal trappers collection.
That stuff must come from country buyers or something because trappers here anyway don't get half their catch damaged.

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