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Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: crosspatch] #6168958
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First time shipping a western lynx cat to FHA and not clear on the grading of their catalog. Is this considered one of the better lots?

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Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: crosspatch] #6168962
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In the beaver grading the RR stands for red rimmed. Is that just a color terminology or what does that mean?

Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: crosspatch] #6168963
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I would say yes, one of the better lots. Hope you do well.


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Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: backroadsarcher] #6168968
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Originally Posted By: backroadsarcher
In the beaver grading the RR stands for red rimmed. Is that just a color terminology or what does that mean?

Usually happens in spring beaver and sometime fall ones. Basically beavers with too small or crowded of houses get it. Caused by being in urine and stains down by the tail. It light after the pelt is dry it's fairly easy to see it's reddish and the fur is coarse

Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: Sask hunter] #6168978
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Originally Posted By: Sask hunter
Originally Posted By: backroadsarcher
In the beaver grading the RR stands for red rimmed. Is that just a color terminology or what does that mean?

Usually happens in spring beaver and sometime fall ones. Basically beavers with too small or crowded of houses get it. Caused by being in urine and stains down by the tail. It light after the pelt is dry it's fairly easy to see it's reddish and the fur is coarse

Some of my beaver graded "RR" a few auctions ago. They actually brought decent money at that auction.

Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: crosspatch] #6168999
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I got a Fisher in Lot 5001 I'm happy. My coon were all caught within a mile of my house. Some were graded as: Canadian, North east Heavy, West North Central, East/Us, and Coat! smile


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Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: backroadsarcher] #6169023
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Originally Posted By: backroadsarcher
In the beaver grading the RR stands for red rimmed. Is that just a color terminology or what does that mean?

It is a red tint around the pelt. Usually has a designation of 4 or 8 in nafa catalog. That number references how far into the pelt it is. 4mm 8mm. It is usually discounted price but in today's hatter market I'm not so sure it makes a bit of difference. It does matter on those who buy for long hair or shearing markets

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Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: crosspatch] #6169031
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RR is a pretty good grade and brings a decent price overall.They are shearable pelts.The amount of red(how deep it goes) in the underfur affects value.


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Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: crosspatch] #6169035
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thanks guys!

Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: crosspatch] #6169084
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How do you tell what section the pelts are graded in


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Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: Txcoonman] #6169088
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Originally Posted By: Txcoonman
How do you tell what section the pelts are graded in

The catalog

Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: crosspatch] #6169149
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happy with my grades on rats(32) and coon(93) had 36 go 4/5 xl of which 23 were ab, 19 graded 2x ab the rest were 3x about a 50 50 split on ab and cd with little fresh coon on the sale hope they sell well

Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: crosspatch] #6169160
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I haven't shipped to Fur Harvesters for a few years so I thought I would split a bunch of coon and rats between NAFA and FHA. We'll see how they sell, but at this point I'm not too thrilled with their sizing and grading. I sent 225 rats to FHA. I carefully sized them before shipping. Their assessment of the 2x-3x rats was right on with mine, but they shifted almost 35 out of 120 rats from XL to L??

FHA was talking up the slate and blue coon all year so I sent them a bunch ( along with a few really nice ones). Again, we'll see how they sell, but all of the slate(some were really light slate) coon ended up as II's. At NAFA most of these slate coon would have been I-II's. Several of my white leathered coon ended up as II's??. Most of my white leathered coon graded I* or Select at NAFA.

Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: crosspatch] #6169186
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More knowledgeable graders at FHA ?


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Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: crosspatch] #6169188
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Pretty bummed out on the fha grades for the cats myself sectioning wise, oh well we’ll see I guess


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Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: crosspatch] #6169191
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How do you know what the white leathered ones graded? Curious as I can never say for sure which ones are which unless I was there. I have heard coons are a much tougher grade at FHA. Good luck hope it all works out for you

Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: Boco] #6169192
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Originally Posted By: Boco
Mike,did you get any type of downgrade like a sd on the marten due to pitch as far as you know?


Yes. My SD’s add up to what I noted in my quantity/color/size notes to being the ones that had heavy sap between the ears to hips.
Kind of a bummer. Like I said, it is what I have to work with.

Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: crosspatch] #6169193
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I would wash those in white gas before skinning if they are that bad.


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Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: crosspatch] #6169197
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Really now..

Re: FHA Grades are up [Re: crosspatch] #6169202
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A Trapper partner gave me a marten one time that was literally covered in pitch from a white spruce or a balsam.He knew it wasn't worth skinning in that condition and so did I.I had a bucket of old gas in the gas shack so I took the whole marten and swished it around in the gas,then hung it out in the wind for a couple days(cold weather).Then I took it in and thawed it out and skinned it.It still had the gas smell but the fur was the nicest one in the pile.
I wouldn't do that unless there was a lot of pitch in the pelt.For a small spot If it is tight I will cut the skin and sew it.Maybe not practical if you have a bunch though.


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