Fake news at it's worst!

I would be willing to bet that any organization that's been around any time at all has compromised. So you actually think gun owners would be OK if the NRA ceased to exist?

Since I'm a proud nra supporter what does that make me?

It's from "America's finest news source" The Onion. Founded right in Madison WI.

It's Satire...

That figures, the snow flake capital of WI.

com·pro·mise
ˈkämprəˌmīz/
noun
1.
an agreement or a settlement of a dispute that is reached by each side making concessions.
"an ability to listen to two sides in a dispute, and devise a compromise acceptable to both"
synonyms: agreement, understanding, settlement, terms, deal, trade-off, bargain; More
verb
1.
settle a dispute by mutual concession.
"in the end we compromised and deferred the issue"
synonyms: meet each other halfway, come to an understanding, make a deal, make concessions, find a happy medium, strike a balance; give and take
"we compromised"
2.
accept standards that are lower than is desirable.
"we were not prepared to compromise on safety"

*I bolded the bold print.

Now that we understand compromise and apply it to a constitutional issue, what is the other side giving up when the NRA facilitates compromise?
I don't believe they are giving up but time. They enter into a compromise and by giving time (the single thing it is possible for them to offer) the issue of gun rights is never solved to either sides satisfaction.

Yep, compromise means nobody gets what they want. Not acceptable at all.

If every gun owner joined the NRA there would not be a peep out of any politician on anti-gun talk. Being that the NRA does not make any laws and they are so ineffective ( according to some ) what difference does it make if they compromise?

I think EVER politician should have to go out an shoot a pistol before thinking teacher should be armed in schools. I do not care how much training they have. NO one can be prepared for what is going to happen if a shooter comes into the school. I is very hard even for the police. Defense shoot is a hole lot different than target shooting. JMO

i've never saw a peein match last this long,anyone got a sore bladder??

When compromises are made, by definition, some order of gun owner is thrown under the bus, or sacrificed. It is usually the class of gun owner who is least desirable, holds the least clout or has a different interest than the main stream. These classes, in my opinion, should be on the vanguard for our support. It is only logical that once enough people are thrown under the bus, it'll be YOUR class that is next out the door.

The good thing that came out of this thread is that i had seen a few pages back that a gentleman decided he was going to join back up to the NRA, thank you sir and anyone else that has done the same.

Or jump on the band wagon . Start supporting gun control. Lie to yourself and repeat the mantra "insta check isnt gun control. Semi rifles dont kill people but full auto will." Stuff like that

Anybody else ever think that since we know the 4th amendment has been tossed out the window that insta check is really a way to create a firearm owners list?

I still think we should have an armed soldier of some kind, in every school, in charge of gun acclimation and training for every student. That way they wont be so ignorant when they graduate, and perhaps more will join the military.

Most folks that come out of the military, are upright, gun toting, conservatives.

Probably, Danny. I find it odd that through years and years and law after law, that 'shall not be infringed' obviously has an asterisk behind it for darn near everyone in America. The whole point of my every post in this long thread was to make people examine their own personal interpretation of the Amendment (that is, after all, the most important interpretation). Very few things in life are black and white, all or nothing. Two examples I can think of is either God is everything, or he is nothing. He can't be God in half measure. Another is this idea of inherent rights. Either you have them, or you dont. We obviously dont. They have been legislated away. But, can anyone, even omnipotent government, take away something that is an idea, or a value that person holds? The whole charade is continued only because of the personal values and convictions of those who defend it. Millions of Americans have taken an oath to defend the Constitution, many have been snuffed out under the guise of defending it (but really our foreign policy). If a simple phase such as 'shall not be infringed' can be twisted by all three branches of our government, under different political parties and across generations, to somehow make it seem O.K. to engage in compromise and be very infringed is just crazy to me.

The NRA supported the NFA of 1934.

The NRA supported the GCA of 1968.

They're on board with banning bump stocks...

And they'll throw AR's, AK's and any other scary semi-auto on the sacrificial alter when the time comes.

I'm not really bothered by it though... My flintlocks are my favorite guns so I should have a while before mine are tossed on the altar.

Mike

Mandatory basic firearm safety sure as the world would not hurt any of them.

I bet lots of military personnel would like their last duty station to be a public school. It wouldn't cost much either since their wages will be paid whether they are running an armory or jet engine shop anyway.

I would like to see local school boards have the power to make decisions like this, rather than federally or even statewide. While it is nice to think that forcing a den full of liberals to handle and understand guns is nice, force is force. Can't fix stupid and I honestly don't care what liberals and their spawn do anymore. I am a bit of a cynic.

So FlyinFinn and danny and or anyone, do you think that as a gun owner your better off without the NRA? Yes or no