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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
[Re: danny clifton]
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03/16/18 11:03 AM
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My statement has nothing to do with the NRA. People have been accepting infringements on their 2A rights for a long time. Some are okay with it. Some whine and complain about it but do nothing. Others financially support organizations that fight to slow the onslaught.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
[Re: corky]
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03/16/18 11:41 AM
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I am going to follow FlyinFinn and close this thread. It is going no where. The guns are hear. It is my opinion that if it was not for the NRA things would not be as they are today, they would be worse.
Have a good day!
To Old
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
[Re: Jim H]
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1. The NRA has been giving away our 2nd rights since the 30's willy nilly, that cannot be disputed.
2. The NRA tells all how strong they are, most buy it, but do the math. 5 million members across 50 states. 120 million plus in yearly revenue to lobby with is great, they choose to use it to compromise.
3. There are at least 75-100 million gun owners, approximately. Only 5 million members. If you think for one minute that the other 70 plus million hasn't joined the NRA because there cheap, well, that's just silly. My opinion is because like myself they know it's all a big fat joke. When the NRA takes a non compromising stance, I'll rejoin, as will others as I suspect.
4. The house and senate care more about re election than anything. Sure the NRA has some pull, but the constituents are where the proverbial rubber meets the road, Bub.....
I'll follow this ^ with: 5. Where was the NRA after NY passed the safe act? Number one on your list can be disputed, And has been several times. Before you can say the NRA has given rights away, you have to be certain of exactly what the second protects.
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
[Re: corky]
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03/16/18 12:34 PM
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I'd like to know where the NRA was in 1934 when the NFA was passed... And again in 1939 when the constitutionality of the NFA was "argued" before SCOTUS...
The only person making an argument was the US attorney. And he fed the justices the biggest line of BS in the history of political wrangling.
The justices swallowed his BS and rendered a decision that contradicts itself.
The 1968 GCA was an extension, and broadening of, the 1934 NFA...
And the NRA supported it. Had they stepped up and fought it and killed it we would still be stuck with NFA but we wouldn't be in near the mess we are now.
But they didn't, they rolled right over.
We should have been handing out blindfolds and cigarettes to politicians long before now.
Mike
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
[Re: corky]
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The NRA started out as a training org. and didn't get political until after the national firearms act. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_AssociationLook at the timelines of when they went political and when they started to lobby, and over half the arguements on here are completely wrong about what the NRA "allowed" or "supported".
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
[Re: corky]
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03/16/18 01:01 PM
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OK Hippie, the ILA arm wasn't in existence yet. So it is fair to say they couldn't have fought the Act.
But they sure didn't have to embrace it...
"The NRA supported The National Firearms Act of 1934 which taxes and requires registration of such firearms as machine guns, sawed-off rifles and sawed-off shotguns. … NRA support of Federal gun legislation did not stop with the earlier Dodd bills. It currently backs several Senate and House bills which, through amendment, would put new teeth into the National and Federal Firearms Acts." —American Rifleman, March 1968, P. 22
Mike
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
[Re: corky]
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I PM'ed you hippie...
It's ironic you mentioned your granddad/WW1.
It's estimated that somewhere around 1-2 million "trophy" weapons were brought home from Europe by WW1 vets. A lot of those trophies would later be classified as NFA guns.
Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
[Re: Jim H]
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03/16/18 01:54 PM
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1. The NRA has been giving away our 2nd rights since the 30's willy nilly, that cannot be disputed.
2. The NRA tells all how strong they are, most buy it, but do the math. 5 million members across 50 states. 120 million plus in yearly revenue to lobby with is great, they choose to use it to compromise.
3. There are at least 75-100 million gun owners, approximately. Only 5 million members. If you think for one minute that the other 70 plus million hasn't joined the NRA because there cheap, well, that's just silly. My opinion is because like myself they know it's all a big fat joke. When the NRA takes a non compromising stance, I'll rejoin, as will others as I suspect.
4. The house and senate care more about re election than anything. Sure the NRA has some pull, but the constituents are where the proverbial rubber meets the road, Bub.....
I'll follow this ^ with: 5. Where was the NRA after NY passed the safe act? Did the NRA not litigate the SAFE act? NY's problem is that the liberal tail wags the entire Upstate dog. How can NRA magically prevail against a sea of hostile Dems, interest groups, and stacked courts in New York? New Yorkers have to fight for NY, or secede from the grip of the Five Boroughs. And this silly allegation that NRA just gives up and concedes all the time is so ridiculous, there is hardly a scintilla of evidence for it. And once again, if you don't like the NRA, then join your state 2nd Amendment group, or one of the other and far-less effective nationals like GOA, 2nd Amendment Fdn, etc.
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