Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process
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Just wait until the republicans lose more seats in November (maybe the majority), some of you guys will be working overtime making up excuses for Trump. He will flip on all kinds of issues because its how you play a reality TV show. He believes in nothing. How far off his campaign is he? http://www.businessinsider.com/clinton-and-trump-on-gun-control-2016-9
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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process
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Living in a free society means you accept that there will be bad with the good...
If we abided by the 2A as it was written then we would have a little more faith in the due process clause.
All of the rights enumerated in the Constitution work hand in hand with each other. You start screwing around or amending one right and the rest might as well be toilet paper.
If we truly abided by the Constitution..."I'm going to be a professional school shooter" could be countered with, "You're going to be professional Swiss cheese if you try."
How will I explain myself to my grandkids when they all must suffer at the whims of a tyrant because I chose to protect their parents from a statistically microscopic threat?
Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process
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If these Trump haters can get rid of guns, they'll want to be outlawing trapping next.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process
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You know people should understand that anytime you have an initial meeting like that, whether closed or open, you should expect to hear dumb things and dumb ideas. The purpose of those meetings to float ideas. These ideas might be off the top of their head and half thought out ideas. This how things come about. You look at several ideas, sort out the bad ones, and pick the best. Any good meeting should appreciate the free flow of thoughts. Sometimes a good process comes out of left field, misspoken thought. There is no sense in getting wrapped up about how a THOUGHT comes out. Especially in the sound bite clips we get bombarded with. What matters is official process or legislation that comes out. People make mistakes when speaking openly. Saying take the guns now and worry about due process later, is just a crass and stupid way word the process that is place now... Restraining orders. Exactly right on both counts.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process
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Anyways...the partisan blindness is strong on this thread... Trumps approval rating went down by 20% with Republicans and up by 20% with Democrats. Don't get no more bipartisan than that.
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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process
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U libs r right that Trump doesn't act like prior presidents. That is why he got elected. We r tired of the same old crap. The man is not a seasoned politician and that is why he is there-he is cleaning out the mess left by the prior presidents. He just keeps those D's guessing what's gonna happen next. Even though he's been hittin some speed bumps he's doin what we put him there to do! 5 stars yet! So conservatives disliked their own elected officials so much they voted in the class clown to straighten things out??? My old man would have said you cut off your nose to spit your face.. So your ok with him knocking on your door. Taking your guns because you said something to someone.. then government folks deciding if you meet their idea of nuts or not??? Cops couldn't find time to run the list of folks that could end up with them knocking on your door..Probably some of us on this post. Mac X2 Jim
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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process
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Living in a free society means you accept that there will be bad with the good...
If we abided by the 2A as it was written then we would have a little more faith in the due process clause.
All of the rights enumerated in the Constitution work hand in hand with each other. You start screwing around or amending one right and the rest might as well be toilet paper.
If we truly abided by the Constitution..."I'm going to be a professional school shooter" could be countered with, "You're going to be professional Swiss cheese if you try."
How will I explain myself to my grandkids when they all must suffer at the whims of a tyrant because I chose to protect their parents from a statistically microscopic threat?
Mike Well put. People care about the 2nd but not the rest of the Constitution without realizing without the rest there will be no 2nd because there will be no Constitution at all . You have to take it all or none.
You only live once, so get over it!
Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process
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Hey chicken littles the sky didnt start falling yet. Don't get your panties so wadded up! Nobodys knockin yet. And nobody's takin anything either!
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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process
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nsa is illegally spying on people, warrantless searches are routinely conducted by local law enforcement, property (cash) is still being seized without any charges being filed.
more government lawlessness shouldn't surprise anyone. this stuff is going on because people accept it. we were well trained to accept it from birth. indoctrination continues with metal detectors school lock downs and book bag searches.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process
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Hey chicken littles the sky didnt start falling yet. Don't get your panties so wadded up! Nobodys knockin yet. And nobody's takin anything either! So your saying we wait till they have the laws on thier side before we speak out and stop this? Just asking
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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process
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nsa is illegally spying on people, warrantless searches are routinely conducted by local law enforcement, property (cash) is still being seized without any charges being filed.
more government lawlessness shouldn't surprise anyone. this stuff is going on because people accept it. we were well trained to accept it from birth. indoctrination continues with metal detectors school lock downs and book bag searches. I was taught it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. They do so many things now at schools that teach kids they have no due process. While they are just children and are still learning what are they teaching them? They should be taught to understand why there is a line of order to their being disciplined. I agree the government and law enforcement already have enough things they do that assumes someone is guilty until proven innocent. I didn't care for Hillary but I also didn't care to hear Trump keep yelling "Lock her Up!" Mr Trump show us your taxes. No their being audited and I want my due process first.. Can't have it both ways can you? Mac
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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process
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Mark, we should have elected Johnson.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process
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I don't know Danny, look at what he said. Finn may not have been behind someone any better when it comes to how the gov't should interject itself. His words. Also doesn't think mentally ill should have guns. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...s-pot/85982250/
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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process
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Mark, we should have elected Johnson. I agree with your premise Danny. But as the 3 branches were designed, the president is only one issue to contend with... We should have elected 536 Johnsons. Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
Vladimir Lenin
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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process
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The root problem with James original post is that Conservatives do not consider their president a King, savoir or despot. We consider our elected to be employees so to speak. If one gets something wrong, learns from it, while tying hard to solve a problem, we keep them on a while longer. The Libs consider their elected, Gods and leaders and such and soil themselves if one would even use incorrect grammar. I give Trump a lot of credit for having a bipartisan forum, even though it would open him up for constant criticism and more childish rhetoric. I give this story a big nothingburger and James an A+ for his CNN resume'. Aha! Caught you! You didn't read the OP, did you? Hint: It's all Trump's words. Jim
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