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HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 #6175101
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This is what congress looking to try to push

https://www.congress.gov/115/bills/hr5087/BILLS-115hr5087ih.pdf


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Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175121
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Holy cow I got a head ache reading that mess.

A lot of changes ahead and most gun owners don't have any representation to fight against them.

Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175141
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It shall be unlawful for a person to import,
17 sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess, in or affecting
18 interstate or foreign commerce, a semiautomatic assault
19 weapon.
20 ‘‘(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession,
21 sale, or transfer of any semiautomatic assault weapon oth22
erwise lawfully possessed under Federal law on the date
23 of enactment of the Assault Weapons Ban of 2018.
24 ‘‘(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to any firearm
25 that—


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Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175166
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What happened to the "shall not be enfringed on" part of the 2nd? Gun grabbing libs.


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Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175169
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I wonder how many guns where just sold.

Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6175171
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Originally Posted By: lee steinmeyer
What happened to the "shall not be enfringed on" part of the 2nd? Gun grabbing libs.


That went out the window decades ago.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175188
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there is the list of sponsors on top, everybody can see if their rep signed on, and call their office to voice displeasure


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Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175193
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I am thinking it will not go anywhere.Wanted to let you all know what is going on with the ones that is out to push this.If it dose happened it will be some thing to see what the out come will be.It will not be good. I know they do not want it out about it. That way they think then can try to slid it in.


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Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175194
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wow you read that and really get the idea they haven't got a clue what they are talking about

really a rocket launcher attachment

they are sad people scared of inanimate objects


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Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175197
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Its not going to pass but it sure as heck will sell a lot of guns.
Here we go again.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175198
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Something like this has passed before and been signed into law....1994.



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Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175260
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The Rimfire exception, only covers 22 Rimfire. None of the 17 Rimfires are exempted.

Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175266
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If this passes this will only be a start as once the crack is made it spreads

Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175276
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Good way to make an honest guy a criminal.I don't have a traffic ticket,never arrested and have security clearance.Just another human with their idea is all.

Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175288
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That's the system we have today.

They sign agreements between schools and law enforcement to ignore bad crimes and than when it back fires on them they blame law abiding citizens for the problem.

Blanket laws don't work. Maybe thier gun control recommendations should only apply to heavy populated areas where these people live

Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175291
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This will never pass.


Glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity
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What i said came true. I told the forum liberals on the Trump thread that they wouldn't need to worry about what Trump said if Dems. were in charge like Reps. are. that there'd be a semi ban already done by the Dems. And that's exactly what this is.

https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2018/02/democrats-assault-weapons-ban-bill/

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/375659-dems-introduce-assault-weapons-ban

Vote for democrats and this is what your getting, no ifs ands or buts.

Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175377
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Im glad yall have faith this wont pass. Im afraid we are gonna wake up one day and it was passed in the middle of the night like obamacare. Just scrolling through that mess made my head hurt.


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It won't take many Republicans to go with them to get through congress. Our advantage isn't very large over them.
I can't see Trump passing it tho. Glad he's in and not Hillary!!!!!

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I already contacted my representative for my congressional district and "strongly urged" him to vote NO.

Mike


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My party is the Republican party. It's not my fault you are butt hurt by what Trump said yesterday.


Glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity
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LOL, Ok you say so. wink

Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: Teallbrook] #6175492
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Originally Posted By: Teallbrook
My party is the Republican party. It's not my fault you are butt hurt by what Trump said yesterday.



Originally Posted By: hippie
LOL, Ok you say so.


Careful Hippie......Don't Feed The Troll !!! frown

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Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175499
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Don't worry about what Trump says.He said he was going to build a wall too.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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LOL


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Originally Posted By: Boco
Don't worry about what Trump says.He said he was going to build a wall too.


Not You BOCO, We Were Referring To a Different Troll !!! laugh

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I hope Trump doesn't start a twitter war with the NRA....then sign a bunch of gun laws to spite them...seems like that is the way this guy does business.


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What's the latest on this Boco?

Looks like the liberals are a pain in your backside also.



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Here's Cornyn's bill which the Dems stalled because they want more, like a semi ban.
This would be a great start that just forces agencies to DO THEIR JOB.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/partis...article/2650214

Why doesn't the media tell us who stops the bills that would do something, when they are calling for something to be done!?

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the laws needed are already on the books, if government did the job that it assigned it's self and promised it would do prohibited people would all be in the NIC database but since they did not the president would have authority over US DOJ and military courts to have them review and ensure all persons were properly reported , like wise every governor could also instruct the state DOJ to insure all prohibited persons were properly reported.
then any one found lying on a 4473 could be prosecuted under this law

call it lying on a federal form law , fine and prison are options https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001

but I have to wonder if politicians don't want that law enforced because then when they lie about expense or travel reimbursements they would be subject to the same punishment.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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I wonder too Pete.
Read the last link i put up. It is designed to do that and would have caught at least two of the last few shooters, but Dems blocked it demanding laws that have nothing to do with the shootings we had.
I just can't wrap my head around stalling such bills.

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Only reason to stall that bill would be that they should not have to write a bill for someone to do their job!

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I read the link.

I suspect

new legislation means a place to hide more pork

so politicians don't want a bill without pork for their district

and it doesn't fit the narrative they want , simply having people do the jobs they were already assigned to doesn't ban and continue the narrative of an unarmed populace where only the rich and politically well connected have any security.


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I seen on the morning news this morning that Trump have talk with the NRA during the night and will not go for more gun control laws.Time will tell on that for the time to come. I also read some other place that for that bill is like the one that was show by a Sen. in CA and was shot down. That is the same one that was sitting next to Trump for the statement he said about taken on the NRA and she had a smile on her face for him to say it. Now I hear that smile is wipe off her face for Trump said after talk with the NRA last night. See what will come of it all.


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Originally Posted By: hippie
I wonder too Pete.
Read the last link i put up. It is designed to do that and would have caught at least two of the last few shooters, but Dems blocked it demanding laws that have nothing to do with the shootings we had.
I just can't wrap my head around stalling such bills.


Its easy
They want total control , starting with getting all guns out of the way to get to that goal. If existing laws would be enforced and on top of that gun free zones eliminated, it would cure the problem. They don't want that as it is their leaver to get their gun bans past. The more folks get shot, the better for them and thats what they count on.


Let's go Brandon

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I will just say no to any gun confiscation/ban.


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They quit enforcing the laws to make a point so thier agenda is be fitted.

They want total control and the only way they would get it is let the current system fail.

They all should be held responsible and tried for murder accessory. At least neglect

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Originally Posted By: racerboy108
They quit enforcing the laws to make a point so thier agenda is be fitted.

They want total control and the only way they would get it is let the current system fail.

They all should be held responsible and tried for murder accessory. At least neglect


It's my personal opinion that most of these politicians should swing from a gallows built in front of the capitol building...

Then leave their bleached bones laying out there as a reminder so that the next group has to walk by them on their way in.

Mike


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^^^ That would be a good start


Let's go Brandon

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one step would be to go back and see who at the Air Force should have reported the Texas church shooter to the NICs system , give their command the option of reviewing every case tried by the air force and resubmitting every prohibited person or everyone in that command line can take a Dishonorable discharge for Dereliction of duty.

things may not be as easy on the civilian side to get moving along but a few big law suits might help


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Off Topic But Apparently The Department Of The Interior Declined To Issue A Protest Permit To The Parkland High School Anti-Gun Protesters To Assemble On The National Mall in D.C.


What A Shame.


https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/the...ld-12721505.php


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Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6175784
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That is good news . Those kids should be in school then to be protest.Are they going to be drop outs.


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Originally Posted By: Teallbrook
My party is the Republican party. It's not my fault you are butt hurt by what Trump said yesterday.

One of those Arlen Specter,John McCain republicans? Are you Crackles brother?


I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. O Lord please don't let me be misunderstood.
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^^^ laugh laugh laugh


Let's go Brandon

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Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: Mike in A-town] #6176081
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Originally Posted By: Mike in A-town
Originally Posted By: racerboy108
They quit enforcing the laws to make a point so thier agenda is be fitted.

They want total control and the only way they would get it is let the current system fail.

They all should be held responsible and tried for murder accessory. At least neglect


It's my personal opinion that most of these politicians should swing from a gallows built in front of the capitol building...

Then leave their bleached bones laying out there as a reminder so that the next group has to walk by them on their way in.

Mike


I like the way you think Mike. Lol

Democracy works but the players don't. It's to divided to be productive and mean while lives and people rights are being thrown out

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Like others have said, I'm thinking it won't pass but I have written all four of my state representatives just in case. Never hurts to be too safe. I'd encourage anyone else who has not yet written to their representatives to do so.


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Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: The Possum Man] #6176683
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Originally Posted By: The Possum Man
Im glad yall have faith this wont pass. Im afraid we are gonna wake up one day and it was passed in the middle of the night like obamacare. Just scrolling through that mess made my head hurt.


And the Federal Reserve act and many hundred's of other's by both Dem's and Repub's.

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Originally Posted By: The Possum Man
Im glad yall have faith this wont pass. Im afraid we are gonna wake up one day and it was passed in the middle of the night like obamacare.


I Have To Point Out That Republicans Control The House, The Senate, And The Executive Branch.

There Is No Way This Garbage Ever Sees The Light Of Day. laugh

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Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6176789
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My question, why would you ( gun owners) not already have at least 10 "assualt weapons". Some day this type of crap will become law and then it will to late to get some

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Fatherlessness and the Shootings less than two minute video worth your time.

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Hey Michigan Trapper,

The answer to your question: Because I was a Marine and I don't need that many shots to accomplish the goal should I need to defend the 2nd Amendment against tyranny.

Durable optics. A good bolt rifle. It would be wise to have two, one each in .223 and a 7.62X39, because ammo availability may be the real issue in success and survival, and you don't know from whom the challenge may come.

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I would like a mortar. Very handy piece of equipment.

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Originally Posted By: Ringbill5196
Fatherlessness and the Shootings less than two minute video worth your time.
Quite a bit of truth right there.


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
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Originally Posted By: Ringbill5196
Hey Michigan Trapper,

The answer to your question: Because I was a Marine and I don't need that many shots to accomplish the goal should I need to defend the 2nd Amendment against tyranny.

Durable optics. A good bolt rifle. It would be wise to have two, one each in .223 and a 7.62X39, because ammo availability may be the real issue in success and survival, and you don't know from whom the challenge may come.


How about those of us who weren't Marines? Is it ok for us to have a semi for the barbarian hordes that will come when the apocalypse hits?

I don't own an AR but that will be remedied shortly.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Originally Posted By: Ringbill5196
Hey Michigan Trapper,

The answer to your question: Because I was a Marine and I don't need that many shots to accomplish the goal should I need to defend the 2nd Amendment against tyranny.

Durable optics. A good bolt rifle. It would be wise to have two, one each in .223 and a 7.62X39, because ammo availability may be the real issue in success and survival, and you don't know from whom the challenge may come.


Ooh-Rah! Get some! Hey Ringbill, who were you with and when? I was FDC with HQ/11 from 2007-2011, down in Pendleton.


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Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: coydog2] #6177840
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I think that marines should be issued something better then just bolt action rifles. I am sure they could be taught to operate them grin


Let's go Brandon

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Re: HR-5057 a Federal Assault Weapons BAN of 2018 [Re: Ringbill5196] #6177845
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Originally Posted By: Ringbill5196
Hey Michigan Trapper,

The answer to your question: Because I was a Marine and I don't need that many shots to accomplish the goal should I need to defend the 2nd Amendment against tyranny.

Durable optics. A good bolt rifle. It would be wise to have two, one each in .223 and a 7.62X39, because ammo availability may be the real issue in success and survival, and you don't know from whom the challenge may come.


You should be ready at any distance and any situation, as a Marine you of anyone should know the value of a good weapon cache, AR15s included. I can promise you that with your trusty bolt gun you will be no match for what they send at you if/when the SHtF but I think you know that already.

Seriously a 7.62x39 chambered rifle? That is about the last caliber I would take onto a battlefield, it is inherently inaccurate for anything but short ranges, it does pack a punch but I would go with a 7.63x51 Nato/.308 Winchester, you are about as apt to find ammo for a .308 as the 7.62x39 rifles and gain all the accuracy advantages as well as the increased range of the .308 and greater knockdown power. Again I think these are points you already know. You could very well be of the same mindset as I am (sort of) in that I stock all Nato/American weapons with enough ammo for 2 or 3 combat load-outs so if it is Nato they send after us they will bring me the ammo, if it is Eastern-bloc countries then I will pick up weapons on the field along with any ammo leftovers if needs be.

Let us all pray it never comes to that, ever. My company Commander always said, "Never fear a man with a gun, fear the man with a gun that wants to use it!".


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Originally Posted By: Birch Tree
Originally Posted By: Ringbill5196
Hey Michigan Trapper,

The answer to your question: Because I was a Marine and I don't need that many shots to accomplish the goal should I need to defend the 2nd Amendment against tyranny.

Durable optics. A good bolt rifle. It would be wise to have two, one each in .223 and a 7.62X39, because ammo availability may be the real issue in success and survival, and you don't know from whom the challenge may come.


You should be ready at any distance and any situation, as a Marine you of anyone should know the value of a good weapon cache, AR15s included. I can promise you that with your trusty bolt gun you will be no match for what they send at you if/when the SHtF but I think you know that already.

Seriously a 7.62x39 chambered rifle? That is about the last caliber I would take onto a battlefield, it is inherently inaccurate for anything but short ranges, it does pack a punch but I would go with a 7.63x51 Nato/.308 Winchester, you are about as apt to find ammo for a .308 as the 7.62x39 rifles and gain all the accuracy advantages as well as the increased range of the .308 and greater knockdown power. Again I think these are points you already know. You could very well be of the same mindset as I am (sort of) in that I stock all Nato/American weapons with enough ammo for 2 or 3 combat load-outs so if it is Nato they send after us they will bring me the ammo, if it is Eastern-bloc countries then I will pick up weapons on the field along with any ammo leftovers if needs be.

Let us all pray it never comes to that, ever. My company Commander always said, "Never fear a man with a gun, fear the man with a gun that wants to use it!".


Might as well entrench myself fully onto a government watchlist here...

Whatever platform you choose should be chambered in 5.56 NATO, and 9mm for your sidearm. As paranoid as it sounds, if you were to end up fighting a tyrannical government it only makes sense to use whatever resources you could scab off of them.

To paraphrase Sun Tzu... Turn the enemies strength into a weakness.

Mike


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My point exactly Mike! Add a 12g and .308 long range rifle, a .45 and a .9mm are both easy to carry at the same time.


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Originally Posted By: Michigan Trappin
My question, why would you ( gun owners) not already have at least 10 "assualt weapons". Some day this type of crap will become law and then it will to late to get some
A semi auto is not a assualt weapon.

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Originally Posted By: Scuba1
I think that marines should be issued something better then just bolt action rifles. I am sure they could be taught to operate them grin


You know what you call us Marines with an IQ of 160?


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A platoon.


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Originally Posted By: Wild_Idaho
Originally Posted By: Scuba1
I think that marines should be issued something better then just bolt action rifles. I am sure they could be taught to operate them grin


You know what you call us Marines with an IQ of 160?



Yes 10 points shy of being airborne infantry. Lol

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I never thought much of 7.62x39 but when we were poor college students buying 100 dollar rifles it didn't matter.
we bought brown paper sacks of 50 rounds of ammo for 5 dollars at a local sporting goods shop we didn't much care, it was good enough.
we managed to put together enough money to buy a rifle but for some reason we we never found the 149 dollars to buy a 440 round span can


then I was at a known distance shoot last summer we shot standing at 100 2 minutes, transition to seated at 200 yards 55 seconds with reload , transition to prone with reload at 300 65 seconds and prone slow fire at 400 yards 4 minutes.

we had a young Navy MP he was living on base and had to borrow a gun so someone lent him a AK with a 2-7 scout scope , he came very close to to qualifying but each time he came up just short


so I think a little more of the 7.62x39 but he qualified the next day with a borrowed AR-15 in 223 with no trouble.


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I wonder if the political terrorist that introduce such legislation are willing to bleed for their believes ?? I say lets find out !!!


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Clarifying....My post was in regard to why I don't own 10 AR's. You all can own as many as you like. I want to be able to shoot and move in guerrilla style. Long enough out to negate thermal imagery.

And that mortar idea is gold, but you got to carry it. And bless your heart for offering. (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) things are heavy but put fear in the heart of any man properly fired.

And to you naysayers, jealousy of The Corps gets you nowhere.

But to all of us, Pray to St. Michael for protection from evil. It is rearing its ugly head yet again.

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I'm not carrying my mortar anywhere. When dark days come i will be sitting on my couch posting on tman. Once in awhile to out go out to the pit and fire a harassment mission to keep them away.

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Originally Posted By: Nelly
Originally Posted By: Teallbrook
My party is the Republican party. It's not my fault you are butt hurt by what Trump said yesterday.

One of those Arlen Specter,John McCain republicans? Are you Crackles brother?
I am behind the times...who's crackles ?


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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
I'm not carrying my mortar anywhere. When dark days come i will be sitting on my couch posting on tman. Once in awhile to out go out to the pit and fire a harassment mission to keep them away.
It is a comfort to know that when truly dark days come, The interweb will be spared. I like the mortar idea as well.

I aways thought the 7.62 x 39 was a short range , urban warfare round myself, and I don't own one yet.....

I have had no military shooting expererience, but I did grow up stalking tweety birds.


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OK guys!!!! Start turning in your guns.


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If this bill is passed then this country will be one big (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) hole.


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Originally Posted By: trapper234
If this bill is passed then this country will be one big (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) hole.


There are precedents to this statement being true.....just look at the places where such laws are in effect already.


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