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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6183891
03/11/18 12:31 AM
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I check during daylight.


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: The Beav] #6183924
03/11/18 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
That happens more them we like to admit.

I had the last beaver blocked Into It's hut with 330s. It final chewed out through the top of the hut after 7 checks and never to be seen again.

I always found those small pond beavers to be the hardest to catch. I spent a few nights sitting up with the shot gun to take the last one.
When I was doing ADC work for the county I had one that knew more about lure and conibears than I did.The game started in the fall,and continued when I went back in the spring.I found a faint trail by the dam and set a 48 Newhouse well bedded and no lure.I got there early the next morning because there wasn't enough water to drown in and there she was.She was the last in the colony and to tell you the truth I found no joy in beating her at this game.When I took her out of the trap I found she was missing a front foot.A beaver I'll never forget.


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: The Beav] #6184040
03/11/18 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
A old time beaver trapper told me that when he made a castor set he just used a stick with castor on It. He tied a piece of string to that stick and then tied that string to the trap. When he made a catch the beaver left with the scent stick. And that set was just as good as new when re setting.

This may work better than string. I haven't tried one of these devices.
http://www.minntrapprod.com/mobile/Body-Grip-Bait-Trigger/productinfo/BAITTRIGG/

Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6184541
03/11/18 05:39 PM
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...and then there are those (after 5 have been removed) that won't repair the dam, have no crawlouts that are accessible, use of any lure is a deterrent especially castor, even snares are too much, water is too deep around lodge for 330s or for underwater 330s as there are no narrow channels.......

There is fresh sign when you get there and then zilch over next 2 or 3 weeks. Had to give up on that one.


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6184584
03/11/18 06:34 PM
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If you manage to kill the big female, and everybody but the big male, and he's the last one, it seems like them big males can be the laziest, low profile, no sign , critters there is...wont do no work till right at fall, probably waiting for a new female to pitch in .


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6184703
03/11/18 08:28 PM
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I'm working on one of those right now, started with all blind sets and then to snares. 7 dead but saw sign today at the culvert with sticks and mud against my 330 mad Sat in the truck and thunk on it a spell. Now 2 gaps in the brush are guarded with snares leading to a small castor mound next to an excisting mound, no lure. I'm thinking its the old girl. Normally those are the tough ones. May have to spend an evening with #4buckshot..

This is a county job so they want em all gone. If I was fur trapping I'd be gone. I always go in and access the situation before I set up a control job, and ask one question, has any one tried to trap these yet?? If not I'll set every blind set with a 330, then to snares and footholds. Sac oil has been the end to a few and I always have my own castor lure and 2 from others. I never get close to the house until most are dead and when I do its like I'm stalking a Booner.


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: trappergbus] #6185030
03/12/18 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: trappergbus
I'm working on one of those right now, started with all blind sets and then to snares. 7 dead but saw sign today at the culvert with sticks and mud against my 330 mad Sat in the truck and thunk on it a spell. Now 2 gaps in the brush are guarded with snares leading to a small castor mound next to an excisting mound, no lure. I'm thinking its the old girl. Normally those are the tough ones. May have to spend an evening with #4buckshot..

This is a county job so they want em all gone. If I was fur trapping I'd be gone. I always go in and access the situation before I set up a control job, and ask one question, has any one tried to trap these yet?? If not I'll set every blind set with a 330, then to snares and footholds. Sac oil has been the end to a few and I always have my own castor lure and 2 from others. I never get close to the house until most are dead and when I do its like I'm stalking a Booner.



If only proximity mines were legal, you could take those lazy, low profile beavers to the cleaners

Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6185533
03/12/18 05:55 PM
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LMBO, the 330 in the culvert was fired today with a stick and it tried to use the stand for it's dam foundation.. One more check then its clay more time.. Just kidding, theirs a tree stand at just the right spot.. Dang beaver mad


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6185561
03/12/18 06:38 PM
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That beavers days are number it just don't know it yet. I can legally shoot em under the County permit. In Michigan we can't dispatch beaver with a .22 for fur. This may be the first time Ill need to.


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6185976
03/13/18 05:42 AM
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'Bus, I had one move a quarter mile upstream of a park district job I just finished (at least I thought I finished). Set 2 foot hold sets out in the evening on fresh castor mounds that it made....I didn't add any lure to the mounds....getting ready to check sets in minute....I hate checking sets in the dark....lol.
Gotta figure this beaver is a female....very nervous....probably bred already. We will see...

Checked and had 2...thought there was only one....shows you how much I know....lol

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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6186034
03/13/18 07:26 AM
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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6186674
03/13/18 06:21 PM
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Dang beaver made a new castor mound and nocked the same snare down mad.. Set a foothold under that snare and added another snare at the new mound with a touch of sac oil . IT stopped using the bank den where the 330 sits waiting. Got a handfull of pond weeds and blended that sucker in. Went to the lodge 100 yards away in the pond north no silt disturbed at all. I'd rather deal with the toughest coyote than the old girls.. Thanks pcr2 I'll take a dang apple and an orange too. Had one 2 years ago I tricked with orange peels only took 2 weeks LOL.. If I don't have to fill this one with holes she's getting tanned.. Thanks Mike I'll put A couple 750s at blank mounds tommorrow..

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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6186785
03/13/18 08:18 PM
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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6186861
03/13/18 09:24 PM
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'Bus, that's not an original idea or tactic but what's nice is after the traps are in lure can be added. If you are using the same lures...a change up like another lure maker works well...for me.

Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6187699
03/14/18 06:51 PM
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Something to add to this thread...trappers trying to be subtle....darn muskrats can ruin your best sets plugging up your well blended conis....any ever try John Kulish's adjustable coni triggers? John made the Species Specific bodygrippers....one heck of a trap! Are there any other adjustable tension coni triggers out there? Carl Jones and CDR trap co. had one similar to Johns.

Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6187866
03/14/18 09:21 PM
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Well the sac oil worked, Snared a double today but there both males. One 60 pounds and one 2 year old. The drain commissioner texted at 10:30 to tell me ya got one, got there at 2 and had the other. That's 9 from this job, no adult girls. Hope she died of old age LOL.. I carry 3 different castor lures and two food types, and sac from other colonies. I've done well this year on Andy's damage stopper, Rehung the snares and cleared the pipe, tomorrow will tell. Still no sign at the house, entrances still silted in.. No traps in the entrances but all the runs are covered with BGS. Only one channel in and out to the house.. I have a feeling the old girl left, Maybe

Ive only had 2 snapped traps from muskrats this year, In the past I've used the SS triggers with success when we had alot of rats. Normally I just move the trigger to the side but we can keep 10 incidental Muskrats here.

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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6188081
03/15/18 07:05 AM
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Nice job on the 2 beaver! Success! Nothing like finishing a job up knowing you've done your best.
This time of the year though....they can fill in quick. I just get tired of dealing with the passerbys, thieves, and the antis. Early am check solves 99% of that problem but it plays heck on me...no sleep.

Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6188763
03/15/18 08:28 PM
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Thanks sir, Oh I'm being observed but the drain commissioner kicks em out.. I was wrong the bigun was a female. Halalua LOL. No sign today at the culvert grin I left it set till Saturday for any wanderers. Next section east is next on the agenda.. If they get permission. tired


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6189181
03/16/18 09:06 AM
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Think I'm done around here for a while on beaver.... after golf course muskrats and a coon in the attic now and oops a couple attic dwelling squirrels.

Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6189222
03/16/18 09:36 AM
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Interesting. Nuisance beaver will start here in about 2 months, lol , when the ice is gone, and they start causing trouble.


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