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Beaver change ups #6183367
03/10/18 02:05 PM
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Whats something you guys do as a switch up? Like instead of the normal castermound or dam break. Or is there different ways to make castermounds after beavers have already been snapped by a trap?

Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6183374
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Hide an apple at your set.

Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6183380
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Use a smear of sac oil above you foot hold.


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6183423
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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6183452
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Foot hold or snare in front of a pile of fresh skinned green sticks. A chunk of apple or corn with Ogormans beaver pro or Dobbin's Woodchipper is a good addition. I normally only make that set in emergencies, and it saved my butt twice in the past 8 months on two paid ADC job where the beaver were already educated to conibears and castor.

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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: Aix sponsa] #6183485
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Originally Posted By: Aix sponsa
The castor set IS my change up a lot of the time. When possible, I start out with blind sets. When possible, I only use blind sets. If there’s flooding and/or blind sets are fewer and farther between, I’ll use castor sets.


When I need a change up after I’ve started using lure, I’ll make mud pie/crawl out sets with no lure, or castor/oil from family members. A lot of people like using the colony members’ sac oil. I like to use their castor with a little sac oil mixed in, and I’ll put it somewhere that they’ll smell it. I check the weather forecast for the next day or two and I’ll put this set on the upwind side, just a small bit of mud and debris or, most times, just rub the castor/oil on a stick or branch above or beyond the trap. If dealing with a trap shy beaver, I will ONLY make the best sets that I can. This means putting a 330 in a pinch, because I don’t want to have all kinds of fencing, or, even better, a snare or foothold, or, my personal favorite, a Torp.
nailed it!!


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6183496
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Beaver Plus with a little sac oil on a mound.

Steep bank, shallowish water, thick skinned up green bait stick tight to bank.

Also, steep bank dig a big hole(bout the size of a milk crate and at least that deep). Bed trap just inside the hole to the side. Just a slight hint of castor and sac oil and a peeled green stick the size of a pencil.


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6183578
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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6183585
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I used to use castor, and or, sac oil at every set, along with fresh popple, slightly peeled, but nowadays, I use popple every where and castor at traveler sets, and as a last resort above a dam at an active colony.

In the colony, they'll come every time for popple, and never get tired of it, but when the trap is down with a beaver at the end of the drowner, all the rest of the family gets to come to that castor spot, maybe only once, so I don't do it there unless the only beaver there are travelers and always in conjunction with popple bait sticks .


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6183598
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A old time beaver trapper told me that when he made a castor set he just used a stick with castor on It. He tied a piece of string to that stick and then tied that string to the trap. When he made a catch the beaver left with the scent stick. And that set was just as good as new when re setting.
It does have some merit and I have done It that way and It works.

But reading all these posts on beaver trapping just seems to me your making this a whole lot harder then It should be.
The old tried and true KISS method always worked for me.


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6183606
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Woodchipper or beaver buffet are my change up lures. Simple bait on a stick sets is usually how I use them,

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Indeed. Beaver aren't thinkers, lol. It is similar to trapping big giant muskrats.


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6183610
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The trapper Is his own worst enemy when It comes to trapping beaver. Most go In like a bull In a china shop and think the beaver don't know what's going on.
THye may not be to smart but they know that something Isn't right.

When I'm on ADC job I scout It like some black opts operation. I don't even carry In any gear. But when I have It planned I'm In and out with as less disturbance as I can. This system works for me.

I might not be as sneaky when fur trapping but I do plan ahead before I start setting traps.


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: trapper les] #6183611
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Originally Posted By: trapper les
Indeed. Beaver aren't thinkers, lol. It is similar to trapping big giant muskrats.


I've left a couple of those non-thinking beavers behind that I could not catch. They gave up b4 I did.


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6183620
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That happens more them we like to admit.

I had the last beaver blocked Into It's hut with 330s. It final chewed out through the top of the hut after 7 checks and never to be seen again.

I always found those small pond beavers to be the hardest to catch. I spent a few nights sitting up with the shot gun to take the last one.


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: possumcatcher] #6183627
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I have had a few I couldn't catch too, and it's not hard to figure out you have stumbled into a place where they are educated.

For the most part, I scout a bit myself too...nothing better than a pond that never been interfered with by mankind.

I will blindset the hard ones , and with footholds if I have to .


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I love that "cream of the crop" trapping at ice out. ADC trapping is a different game, calmer water, more laid back beaver, and they aren't as hungry as at ice out.

I'll blindset the high side of the spill way for a hind foot catch with a foothold and drowner every time, and just keep that set operating .


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Re: Beaver change ups [Re: Aix sponsa] #6183636
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Originally Posted By: Aix sponsa
Originally Posted By: coontrapper2016
Foot hold or snare in front of a pile of fresh skinned green sticks. A chunk of apple or corn with Ogormans beaver pro or Dobbin's woodchipper is a good addition. I normally only make that set in emergencies, and it saved my butt twice in the past 8 months on two paid ADC job where the beaver were already educated to conibears and castor.



Sounds like a good set. When using corn, you’re using a cob? Beavers here don’t see corn, but I wonder how they’d react to it. I’m going to have to try it. I really like the idea of using something that contrasts so well—-yellow corn against a dark bank

Yup, last summer I was on an ADC job where the beaver had plugged up a creek next to a corn field and were cutting corn every night to work on the dam and pile up in the creek. I had caught a couple and knew there was at least one more left that wasn't responding to nothing. As I was trying to figure out what to do while walking along the cornfield to check traps I figured I'd try a baited set with corn. Broke the cob into 2 pieces with some skinned up sticks and caught a 55lb male the next night.

Re: Beaver change ups [Re: The Beav] #6183889
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
The trapper Is his own worst enemy when It comes to trapping beaver. Most go In like a bull In a china shop and think the beaver don't know what's going on.
THye may not be to smart but they know that something Isn't right.

When I'm on ADC job I scout It like some black opts operation. I don't even carry In any gear. But when I have It planned I'm In and out with as less disturbance as I can. This system works for me.

I might not be as sneaky when fur trapping but I do plan ahead before I start setting traps.
Sometimes you're in Madison WI Beav, gotta be sneaky, lol.
Is it good to avoid checking beaver traps in the evening or after dark?

The corn idea someone mentioned is intriguing.

Aix, what's a Torp?

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