Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: Trapper123456]
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03/09/18 11:48 PM
03/09/18 11:48 PM
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Hillbilly910
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if i get a receipt that says "Kentucky", for my unsold, i tend to get suspicious. I could speak further on the issue, but, i dont know.
see my above. Ive sold my "worthless fur" before. Never once did they get lumped into a category.
God created all men, but Sammuel Colt made all men equal
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: Trapper123456]
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03/10/18 02:52 AM
03/10/18 02:52 AM
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Hillbilly910
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most wouldnt catch the labeling on the receipt... i just tried to point it out.
Don would know, he was selling fur before i was born, i think....lol He always treated me right, when i sold him fur, and always told me straight, even if i just needed info, offered him nothing.
God created all men, but Sammuel Colt made all men equal
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: JTfromWV]
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03/10/18 12:03 PM
03/10/18 12:03 PM
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jbyrd63
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You got robbed . Heck if it was the beaver that pulled them down why didn't they just throw them in the dumpster?. Someone would be held responsible if it was me. Some sort of legal action would be my next course if the ARSE holes running that operation didn't make it right.
Hey I know what it was !!! Blame it on CALIPARI he had the gall to go over the border and put a butt whipping on huggy bear and his boys !!!!
March madness is here ................ There is no legal action that can be taken. There is nothing to be made right. The more money the fur brings, the more the association makes when prices are low. We sometimes lose money with building rental. I also take exception to the name calling of those of us who help run the association. How much do you do for your association? If you help run it than do take exception. BUT NOT WITH ME !!! Whom ever stole his fur !!! UNLESS the hides where rotten and he said they weren't you need to look into it. I think the fact that the word KENTUCKY was underlined and highlighted on the lotting form there is definitely discrimination involved. So the fact that other prices listed where remarkably higher doesn't raise a red flag. You guys knew he wasn't there and broke one off in him. PERIOD. Plus what is this Ky cites tags excuse? Cites is federal. I thought. Yes bobcats in this area are bad about having "rabbit" back. Even those bring 20 -25 bucks apiece. As for ALL green fur being lotted as one instead of lotting it as a green possum why not all as green bobcats. ???? AS for your association . I would be ashamed to admit being apart of this. LOL
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: JTfromWV]
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03/10/18 12:17 PM
03/10/18 12:17 PM
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jbyrd63
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I do not know the auctioneer. There is no incentive to sell the fur cheap. The more the fur brings, the more the association and the auctioneer make. If the other buyers thought they could make money on it I think they would have out bid the buyer who bought it. I am still trying to figure out how you got your check before I got mine. NOT ALWAYS TRUE. NOT SAYING this the case. But maybe the buyer was working for the people auctioning the fur ???? Mighty good profit there ... IF IT WASN'T rotten and the gentleman has said 3 times they were good pelts. Something is fishy in WV.........
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: JTfromWV]
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03/10/18 12:21 PM
03/10/18 12:21 PM
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jbyrd63
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If there was collusion, why only on green fur? REALLY you can't figure that out? Everyone knows green fur can be cut in price and trappers never blink. Finish fur is what it is . Price is there . More profit to be made on green if the buyer is already finishing his own fur.
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: kytrapper]
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03/10/18 02:14 PM
03/10/18 02:14 PM
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Trapper123456
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One problem I have seen at state auctions is it seems the buyers all get together on a limit and don't let it run up to high and sort of take turns buying lots. That way they all make more and guaranteed money. That, and one buyer seems to buy all of one species and another buyer another. I know they have orders to fill but it seems like " I won't run up fox if you'll let me buy the mink". It's reflected in the buyer piles as the sale moves along. I remember one year Zander showed up at Kentucky and wasn't in the loop with the usual five or six buyers. He bought about a hundred thousand dollars worth and the old regulars were fit to be tied. I would not let mine run through without having a "no sale" option but you had left in a trusting way and unless your fur was rotten someone stole it. Sometimes lessons in life are learned through disappointments. Now you and several hundred here know what could happen. That's why I made the post Kytrapper. I am not sure why their is a "no sale" option. I am new to auctions so never gave it a thought to be honest. To let others know. If my fur would have been rotten the buyer and the guy that I talked to "who was in the know" would have told me. It wouldn't have been "it was because of Ky cities tags or beaver are too much work" they would have said it was rotten. I skin the same day I take animals out of the traps. I may have let a beaver go one day but I don't think I did. I do not remember having a coyote with a green belly, let alone a rotted hide. I use footholds exclusively on coyotes, bobcats, coons, etc...so I kill animals when I get there. My freezers were operational the whole time. I had quite a few hides in a brand new one. They were all frozen hard when I got them out. My fur was intact and no slippage whatsoever as far as I know. I got it out of the freezer and let it thaw before the auction. I have sold multiple times to a country buyer and I have sold bobcats to groenwold twice (put up) I averaged $60 on them one year and not sure about the next. But I will put it this way. Who would buy rotten pelts? I would not give $25 dollars for 10 nice rotted cats. I will say once again if my fur was rotten that would have been the answer they would have gave me when I asked about it. I figure I got shorted out of a couple hundred bucks (I may be off, just my opinion.) that's fine. I just don't want it to happen to others. There's no need to feel sorry for me, there's nothing I can do now. I took a chance and lost out. I can just hope this sheds some light on the situation. No doubt there's some good people in the Wv association that has nothing to do with this matter. Their seems to be some good Wv folks right here on the website. I personally know some good folks from Wv, I think a lot of them.
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: SNIPERBBB]
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03/10/18 02:54 PM
03/10/18 02:54 PM
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jbyrd63
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The other thing on green hides...the buyers are taking a risk on getting them back to the shop before they start to taint if they didnt bring coolers or refrigerated vehicles. I'm at an auction now, some of these buyers have 10hr drives back to base. If they didn't bring a way to transport what they bought than they need to be in another line of work. If your on vacation in Fla and they have the deal of the century on ice cream are you going to buy it when you live in Ohio ???? Think about that logic... just saying . I don't know why his pelts didn't do better. But the reasons given don't add up....
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: Trapper123456]
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03/10/18 05:06 PM
03/10/18 05:06 PM
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the Blak Spot
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Here is what i dont understand: You dropped your unthawed fur off on friday? The auction wasnt till sunday? Your fur sat out of a cooler from friday till sunday?
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