Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: Trapper123456]
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03/10/18 08:55 PM
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Why isn't there an option to "NO SALE??"
Ok, I apologize. IMO Your guys auction discriminates against Ky fur. I heard it from a guy that had no reason to lie to me. He told me that he himself felt bad for what had happened. He took the time and trouble to call me and answer my emails.
As for your first question you could break the lot down by each individual piece of fur like the local buyers and groeny.
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Ok,
3 cats@$20 19 coyotes@$5 13 beaver@$1 (because their so much work) 4 coon@.50 cents 3 rats@.55 cents.
All of the above =$171.65
Did you read this Jt? Please guys, no name calling. Please Mr. Dobbins don't axe this thread. It may help some young trapper. Even if it is just one then it is worth it.
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: Matt Jones]
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03/10/18 08:56 PM
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What I'm the world is this guy talking about??? I don't get ...matt Matt this is your daggone fault, I watched your fur handling dvd and you see what it got me? Lol just kidding.
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: JTfromWV]
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03/10/18 09:00 PM
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I told you guys early in the thread IT IS JOHN CALIPARI'S fault . He took a bunch of thumb suckers across the border and whipped up on Bob (huggy bear ) Huggins. So the problem is not green fur. Because it would have been underlined like the word Kentucky was !!!!!! It was were it came from. Spoken like a true hall knocker. Ok I'm a dumb country boy . Whats that even mean ?
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: JTfromWV]
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03/10/18 09:07 PM
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WV DNR uses the buyer and lot sheets for harvest data. All instate sheets have county of harvest and all out of state sheets have state of harvest. Funny didn.t see any other sheets with other counties or states listed. So the fur listed above and below his in that one pic ALL came from the same Co. Ok why didn't you say that earlier. Now it is as clear as pea soup !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
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03/10/18 09:18 PM
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Sorry for u luck feller u got the short end of th stick. But bandy is right on bring to th va d1 fur sale.
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
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All of the finished fur is graded and put in lots. My low #2 red fox are in with other people's low #2 red fox. No way to separate once lotted. If you had been able to put a minimum bid on your fur, what would happen to it if it did not sell. You were 3+ hours away. I could have drove 3 hours and picked it up. I would have rather give it to a kid and let him sell it somehwere else. I could have tanned it and gave pelts away to friends and family.
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: ESW]
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Sorry for u luck feller u got the short end of th stick. But bandy is right on bring to th va d1 fur sale. It looks like that one and the Ky one would be my best bet if I was going to an auction. It would be a farther drive but I imagine I would have been a lot more satisfied.
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: JTfromWV]
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All of the finished fur is graded and put in lots. My low #2 red fox are in with other people's low #2 red fox. No way to separate once lotted. If you had been able to put a minimum bid on your fur, what would happen to it if it did not sell. You were 3+ hours away. I think it would be a good idea if you guys would change your auctions to be more like the other ones. Ky has a no sale and so does Virginia and Ar. Why would you guys differ from them?
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: JTfromWV]
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All of the finished fur is graded and put in lots. My low #2 red fox are in with other people's low #2 red fox. No way to separate once lotted. If you had been able to put a minimum bid on your fur, what would happen to it if it did not sell. You were 3+ hours away. Been worth coming back. IF the pelts were good cats 22 bucks apiece easy MINIMAL . That's for rabbit back . spots and up to 60, depending on length. What guy here pays anyway.
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
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03/10/18 10:17 PM
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I doubt very much that there is some conspiracy by the West Virginian Trapper's Association to screw Kentuckian trappers. The reason the word Kentucky is underlined is most likely something innocuous, like they double checked your cites tags. If there was a conspiracy, they would not have underlined Kentucky, when it could have notified Kentuckians something was up. Since Kentucky was already plainly typed on the receipt, there was no reason to underline it as a secret code to screw over this seller.
We have a very poor market for wild furs right now. Green furs have always been worth less than well finished furs and for good reason. It costs time or money to put green furs up. It is harder to see the quality of a green fur. There is also the risk of spoilage.
The biggest problem with the auction was that there was only 7 buyers there and they probably all were not there to buy green fur too. Less competition between buyers in a year with very poor, raw fur prices is going to lead to very poor returns for trappers.
Having the option to buy back the furs or no sale them, would be good. It does create more of a hassle for the auctioneer and his staff, which is probably why this small fur auction chose not to have it.
Auctions are always risky to sell at. Prices are dependent on the current market prices and also how much competition to buy shows up. What most likely happened was nobody wanted your lot of mixed, green furs.
I find the current prices disgusting. I hope prices rise to a decent level in the near future, but don't see it happening.
I would be angry if I got that poor of a return on my hard work too.
The lesson is, if you can and want better returns, send your fur somewhere there will be more competition to purchase it and to sell what the market wants.
Keith
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
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03/11/18 12:20 AM
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Sorry for your loss.My takeaway from this would be to put up all my marketable fur in the future.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: KeithC]
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03/11/18 10:53 AM
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I doubt very much that there is some conspiracy by the West Virginian Trapper's Association to screw Kentuckian trappers. The reason the word Kentucky is underlined is most likely something innocuous, like they double checked your cites tags. If there was a conspiracy, they would not have underlined Kentucky, when it could have notified Kentuckians something was up. Since Kentucky was already plainly typed on the receipt, there was no reason to underline it as a secret code to screw over this seller.
We have a very poor market for wild furs right now. Green furs have always been worth less than well finished furs and for good reason. It costs time or money to put green furs up. It is harder to see the quality of a green fur. There is also the risk of spoilage.
The biggest problem with the auction was that there was only 7 buyers there and they probably all were not there to buy green fur too. Less competition between buyers in a year with very poor, raw fur prices is going to lead to very poor returns for trappers.
Having the option to buy back the furs or no sale them, would be good. It does create more of a hassle for the auctioneer and his staff, which is probably why this small fur auction chose not to have it.
Auctions are always risky to sell at. Prices are dependent on the current market prices and also how much competition to buy shows up. What most likely happened was nobody wanted your lot of mixed, green furs.
I find the current prices disgusting. I hope prices rise to a decent level in the near future, but don't see it happening.
I would be angry if I got that poor of a return on my hard work too.
The lesson is, if you can and want better returns, send your fur somewhere there will be more competition to purchase it and to sell what the market wants.
Keith This.
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Tim Henry.
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Re: Attention Ky trappers!!!
[Re: Trapper123456]
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03/11/18 02:25 PM
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Man that sucks hope it works out for ya. Sounds like the quality of the fur, condition of the fur market, the fur buyers mood, the state fur was trapped in, all played a role in this. Keep us informed.
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