I am actually quite surprised (and maybe I shouldn't even put this out there) that the NRA in all their wheelings and dealings in lawmaker payoffs hasn't made it mandatory to become an NRA member as a condition of owning a firearm.

The point most are pointing out, and you are missing, is the NRA has been the number 1 fighter (by a long shot)for you and I's gun rights. They have given up little to no ground in my lifetime, and what was lost was hard fought. I personally don't know of anything new gun laws they didn't fight that were detrimental to owning a gun.

But hey, kill the NRA and your in the same boat as us.

And i will point out, no one said you had to join until you came on and demagogued the NRA.

ya showed up to a gunfight with a butterknife

I don't care if my opinion is unpopular. I express it in case there are others out there who feel the same way I do when it comes to compromise of the 2nd amendment. I can keep this up all day, it keeps the thread on the 1st page and in front of more eyeballs. I will say once again; if you do not want compromise do not be party to an organization of compromise.

lost me when you said you don't support trapping,is it cause they won't let you have teeth on the traps anymore??

Money talks and $%#^ walks.

That is a great recruiting slogan. Much more truthful and to the point than '...cold dead hands'.

I used to belong to the NRA for many years. I dropped my membership because I got tired of all the mailings, offers to send me stuff I didn't need, and two months after I paid my membership asking me to pay another year or two of my membership. I'd still be a member if it weren't for that.

Still don't know why Finn keeps thinking the NRA has been compromising away our rights to own a firearm. Wish he'd offer some factual information.

Here is a little nugget for those that think the NRA hasn't compromised in their lifetime; The NRA supported and helped to write portions of the Brady bill, specifically the part that requires background checks.

I think we can all find a reason to not do something, if one does not wish to join an org. don't but to run them down for not doing exactly what you think should be done is disingenuous. The NRA is still the best bang for the buck no matter how imperfect. I knew a guy that quit a trapping org. because the magazine was smaller.

I'm not going to spoon feed you the information. If you don't care enough to look it up yourself-than you're obviously OK with the past performance and where we are now. Good good. If you don't believe me, I doubt you'd believe any instances or Web Links I posted either- but if I did spark an interest the info is relatively easy to find.

So, you think background checks are a bad thing?

See? Rat is a good example. He admits the NRA isn't perfect but that it's good enough for him. Good good. For those that it is not OK (those who want less infringement ) there are other organizations that don't compromise, or don't belong to any. Your choice as it your personal conviction dealing with your inhearnt rights.

Yes, background checks are a bad thing.

Trapper7 NRA supported the gun control acts of 34 and 68 though at the time they were not exactly a lobbying group. In 68 Charlton Hesston was on TV in ads telling everybody what a great thing gun control was.

When Bill Clinton was pushing for insta check, the NRA, a 100% lobbying group by now, promising to fight all infringements on the right to bare arms, spent a LOT of money supporting it. The NRA sent out flyers and called them "polls". The polls were in fact extoling the need for back ground checks at time of sale.

Now the NRA is continually pretending to be on your side fighting the "gun show loophole" crowd. There is no loophole but the whole notion came about because of the not so instant insta check. The insta check the NRA SUPPORTED.

I get a laugh when they talk about saving hearing by doing away with licensing suppressors also. The NRA was a backer of the 1934 act that required the license.

There is a start for you trapper7. Quit being lazy. Do your own research.

The REAL goal of the NRA is to keep making money, lots of money, for a handful of people at the top of their food chain.

Your incorrect IF i remember right Finn.
Didn't that set up the INSTANT background checks? Or the NICS?

That was actually good for us. Begfore that, we had to wait 3 days here for our background check, where as now we walk out the same day with the gun.

If you think ANY of these 2nd amendment infringements has ever lowered the percentage of crime you are living in fantasy land.

So, if I understand you correctly, you think anybody that wants a gun should have access to it, no questions asked?

Why did the citizens of PA allow a 3 day waiting period in the first place Hippie????????????? Where was the NRA when that debacle was being created?????????????????