Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
[Re: danny clifton]
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If you think ANY of these 2nd amendment infringements has ever lowered the percentage of crime you are living in fantasy land. In fact, it's proven where there are more stringent gun controls in force, firearm violence is much more prevalent. Places like Chicago, Detroit, DC, etc.
We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
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Why did the citizens of PA allow a 3 day waiting period in the first place Hippie????????????? Where was the NRA when that debacle was being created????????????????? I don't know, i wasn't born yet. Where was your group? Why didn't your better way stop it?
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
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Trapper7 NRA supported the gun control acts of 34 and 68 though at the time they were not exactly a lobbying group. In 68 Charlton Hesston was on TV in ads telling everybody what a great thing gun control was.
When Bill Clinton was pushing for insta check, the NRA, a 100% lobbying group by now, promising to fight all infringements on the right to bare arms, spent a LOT of money supporting it. The NRA sent out flyers and called them "polls". The polls were in fact extoling the need for back ground checks at time of sale.
Now the NRA is continually pretending to be on your side fighting the "gun show loophole" crowd. There is no loophole but the whole notion came about because of the not so instant insta check. The insta check the NRA SUPPORTED.
I get a laugh when they talk about saving hearing by doing away with licensing suppressors also. The NRA was a backer of the 1934 act that required the license.
There is a start for you trapper7. Quit being lazy. Do your own research.
The REAL goal of the NRA is to keep making money, lots of money, for a handful of people at the top of their food chain. I guess you missed the part where I said I quit the NRA. Obviously, you aren't a member either.
We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
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Hey I'm just telling the rest of the story. If you don't want to hear it quit reading.
Trapper 7 those laws stop people who want to commit a crime about as well as they stop junkies from buying heroin. They are also UNCONSTITUTIONAL. If we allow our right to be armed to be compromised how long before our right to assemble gets infringed on or our right to free speech or religion or to be represented in government? Quit thinking like a subject and embrace your liberty.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
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trapper7 Still don't know why Finn keeps thinking the NRA has been compromising away our rights to own a firearm. Wish he'd offer some factual information. I'm not Finn but get tired of people telling me the NRA is a wonderful organization and I should support them no matter what. Or at least as long as they claim to be my advocate in Washington.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
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The two guys spending a lot of time on this thread bashing the NRA refuse to give us a better alternative, a better place to spend our dollars in defense of 2A. Even though they have been asked repeatedly to do so. Why is that?
As has been pointed out repeatedly on this thread, the NRA is the most effective gun lobby in this Country, period.
I wish you two would put up an answer or shut up.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
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do you belong to any trappers org's danny even though they allowed the gov.to take away our rights to use teeth on traps.did the nta let that happen??
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
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hippie, I didn't stop it or fight it because quite frankly living east of the Mississippi river has never interested me. Not even a little bit. Wasn't my business is what I thought when I was young. The older I get though the smaller the world gets and I see how infringement of constitutionally RECOGNIZED rights in any part of our country have a negative effect on all of us.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
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I belong to the FTA pc2 though I've no clue what that has to do with this. BTW teeth on traps are not banned everywhere. Its not a federal law its some state's law. Teeth on traps is not a constitutionally recognized right not to be infringed on.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
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Lugnut the best group to join is the group at your polling station on election day. There have already been some organizations mentioned that want to see our right restored 100%. If you don't want to read the posts quit asking for answers. Do you need somebody to hold your hand and point them out?????????????
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Companies no longer supporting the NRA
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And I'll say it again, "GOA is weak and ineffectual compared to the NRA!"
Nothing wrong with belonging to both or multiple groups. But no group mentioned on this thread has the political clout and financial backing to get things done the way the NRA does. And they have done far more good for gun owners than any other group.
You two may not like it, but those are the facts.
Eh...wot?
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