Re: Busted for saving the muskrats.
[Re: yukonjeff]
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03/16/18 12:57 PM
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Lets kill all the beautiful raptors to save the ugly muskrats.
Thanks guys. Now I understand the thinking on how wildlife populations were decimated and went extinct in the lower 48 states. You got it right on the nose for the heart of the problem.I know some that like to see every thing clean out so no wildlife is around.
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Re: Busted for saving the muskrats.
[Re: 330-Trapper]
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03/16/18 01:03 PM
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It would be nice to see the slightest bit of critical thinking coming from the collective wisdom of this board.
Oh Clark,Clark,Clark...There's plenty of Wisdom And critical thinking on "THIS BOARD" you just cannot fathom any of it- at all- because it doesn't usually follow your utopian ecological balance that you have come to believe in. In many ways it's the pot calling the kettle black. This Board is just fine if you don't think so change the channel. X2.
"They that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" Ben Franklin talking about guns
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Re: Busted for saving the muskrats.
[Re: MJM]
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03/16/18 01:26 PM
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I certainly don't Advocate what he did. But to shoot that many Raptors in that small of an area gotta tell you something about how overpopulated they are.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: Busted for saving the muskrats.
[Re: Clark]
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03/16/18 03:20 PM
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The natural reaction to a situation without an obvious cause is to blame something other than ourselves. Why not raptors? They're everywhere! And they all feed on muskrats?
It would be nice to see the slightest bit of critical thinking coming from the collective wisdom of this board. How many species of raptors are A) large enough to kill a muskrat and B) hunt over water? In North America that limits us to, at most, 3 raptors. Yes, let's blame the raptors because we would hate to look at our own practices that limit muskrat populations, that would take change that we may not agree with.
Clark You would think anyone capable of critical thinking would comprehend that muskrats are not born adult size and that almost every raptor, except for tiny ones, such as kestrels, can kill a muskrat, when they first become ambulatory. You would also think anyone capable of critical thinking would comprehend that muskrats don't always stay in the water and that all species of raptors sometimes fly over and near water. Keith
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Re: Busted for saving the muskrats.
[Re: MJM]
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03/16/18 05:55 PM
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I don't know why invasives, like Pheasants were even brought up. As parasitic nesters, with a shorter incubation period, they are the main displacer of prairie chickens. Yet we kill all the egg eaters . If I thought pheasants would make it up here and displace sharptailed grouse, I'd kill every one I saw. They are a non native in my state.
"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
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Re: Busted for saving the muskrats.
[Re: jbyrd63]
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03/16/18 07:10 PM
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Wonder what the wildlife biologist would say the population is per square mile if that many was killed on 80 acres. Two.
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Re: Busted for saving the muskrats.
[Re: yukonjeff]
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03/16/18 07:54 PM
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I though we as trappers were conservationist, apparently not.
As if destroying all their natural habitat to farm every square inch wasn't enough.... Now we need to persecute them for eating their natural diet as well because we like to sport hunt/trap the same animals they need to eat to survive.
I hope the antis don't read this thread they will be making posters out of some of your guys quotes. I don`t think any of us think we should take matters in our own hands like the man did.But I think we all have enough common sense to know the hawks need to be managed just like everything.That`s not going to happen and that`s what makes everyone upset.JMO
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Re: Busted for saving the muskrats.
[Re: trapper les]
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03/16/18 08:07 PM
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There is no mention of muskrats in the article, by the way, lol. Tis a nice thread title though . You have to admit Les I got them going. Good thing I didn't post the picture of the dead hawks.
"Not Really, Not Really" Mark J Monti "MJM you're a jerk."
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Re: Busted for saving the muskrats.
[Re: MJM]
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03/16/18 08:19 PM
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trapper les
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I saw what you did, lol.
There has been an eruption of Great Gray Owls from the north, up here lately. I like watching them...mouse and vole eaters, I believe.
These days, I have limited myself to defending my chicken yard of all predators, wild or domestic.
"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
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