Plus, if folks would read the owners papers, a Duplex will work as a rangefinder!

all of my Nikon are duplex
I have vortex with the BDC hash reticent and without the BDC is a little more to look but at 2 power not really a big distraction with just the hashes

here you can see sort of what they look like not exactly to scale but not bad
I did all of these at 225 yards but with 300black out , 223 with a 55gr hornady soft point and a 308win running a 165 gr speer soft point

vortex v-plex 110gr v-max

vortex BDC-hash 110gr v-max

vortex BDC-Hash 223 55gr sp

Vortex VMR-1 MOA hash

even thought the magnification is higher the program shows the animal as smaller because of all the other info it needs to get on the screen , the application allows for you to zoom in but I didn't so you could see the hole screen

I have many scopes from $180-1,200 and for the money as others have said the Nikon is a good choice for a couple hundred bucks. I have several 3x9x44 that work fine. I also have a couple Vortex and they are clear for the price. I have a Vortex Crossfire 1.5-4x24 with a variable illuminated dot mounted on a AR 15 in 300 blackout for hogs. It’s very clear and the variable illumination is important because I have had some in the past that were illuminated but not variable and they were to bright at dusk and dawn.

Thanks Pete,
Yea, i like duplex for hunting. I don't like the ones like your bottom 3 you posted and that seems to be what i find every time i look at one in a store.

For target, i like a fine crosshair.

Nikon with nikoplex https://www.midwayusa.com/product/134630/nikon-prostaff-rifle-scope-2-7x-32mm-nikopex-reticle-matte

Vortex v-plex https://www.midwayusa.com/product/854643...2-7x-32mm-matte

they are still available but the same cost as the bdc , I suppose store owners figure they can better sell the idea of a BDC reticle

if you look carefully on those pictures near the cross hairs it has a near and far zero I shoot both those distances and several in between and beyond to make sure calculations meet reality.

most of those are chosen because it makes the highest point in the arc about 2.5 inches above zero.

me too!...since it is also an uncluttered range finder, once educated on its use...info used to come in owners manuals, probably only online now.

Normally I can judge out to 300 yds by eye, t.20 shoots so flat all I need to know is if it is less than 350 yds and all I do is hold dead on up to 350 yds

I got the BDC to try it on a 300 black out because I can shoot farther than the round is flat for , the first hash is 1.5 minutes that puts me right on at 200 , then the next hash is 4.5 minutes and should be 250 yards , but I only have taken that gun to 225 so the middle between.


I bought the VMR-1 MOA hash scope after taking a long range class , I knew I was going to need it to get distance , we went over estimating distance with the reticent in a MIL dot scope in class.near the end of the class the instructor messed with some of the targets , he had moved a 10.5 inch plate forward but you couldn't see that standing on the 300 yard line so when he moved us back to what should have been 425 yards it was from the target line the plate was actually at 325 but everyone figured it was 425 and the crazy part was when you saw the dust go up from the berm that was 425 you though you missed just undernith and not that you had gone right over the plate then the bullet dropped and was actually hitting behind the plate. so in 3 rounds I had 3 misses , even though I could drill that plate all the way back to 500 yards if I knew the range I couldn't see the the difference between 2.35 and 3.08 moa in the standard duplex reticel of the 3-9x50 I had been using.


you get used to just looking at the target and using the main cross hairs unless you need to use the other function.

the MOA hash is very handy in sighting in aim at what you wanted to hit , fire a shot as long as your confident you were holding where you should when the gun fired , you measure from where you were holding to where your shot landed on the target make correction and your next round lands where you had been aiming or very close to it.

but on a gun like the original poster is wanting to know about a 222 rem for coyote hunting inside 225 yards the point blank range for the cartridge a duplex is just fine. you can still use a standard duplex reticle to range it is just more of a go/no-go than a value.

as an example on the 3-9x50 v-plex reticle a 16 inch plate at 300 yards fit perfectly between the thicker part of the reticent

so say you went with a Vortex 2-7x32 v-plex and you have a coyote hung up just doesn't want to come in any further so you your looking at him with the scope on 7x magnification

so you lay the cross hair on the yotes back the lower thick part of the reticent just touches the brisket. you estimate that it is a large coyote an than top of it's back to bottom of the brisket is about 12 inches the calculation for inches in yards out moa 12 inches x 95.5 /2.85moa = range in yards 402 yards so unless you know you can hit at 400 and just where to hold and the wind is still , no-go.
but now say he came in a ways further your still not sure should I , you measure and now the top thick of the reticle set on the yotes back makes the bottom thick part just touch the brisket

2.85+0.17+2.85 = 5.87 moa so 12 inches x 95.5 / 5.87 = 195 yards take aim and squeeze it is inside you zero range and wind unless howling isn't a major enough factor.



your obviously not sitting out there with your slide rule or calculator figuring this stuff out on the fly , but you study your target ahead of time and using the known subtenses of your retcle come up with ranges go no-go mainly

if the coyote back to brisket fills 3/4 of the distance between the top and bottom thick parts of the reticle then you would guess 300 yards , know what you can hit at what distance , I like 6 inch steel plates because they are inexpensive generally less than 20 dollars and if you can't hit that reliably your farther than you should be shooting at game.

I explained this is for the young mans education , this is what trapperjohn is talking about when he says uncluttered range finder

Holy crap fellas.... poor young lad probably has brain overload!

Put a low profile straight 4x on that gun.

come now he is 14 he has surely had some algebra and geometry figuring range from scope subtenses should be nothing compared to last nights homework

This^^. Just make sure it’s at least decent quality glass. I see no need to use anything more than the 1x6 Vortex I now use. I worry a lot more about the 30 yard coyotes than I do the 300, because most of my calling shot opportunities occur at under 100 yards.

I leave mine on 8x unless in out in a stalk and need better magnification, I turn it up, then back down before taking my shot, 8x seems to work good at close up and long shot

I leave mine on 2x all the time or the lowest power if it is another scope but most of my hunting guns are 2-7x32

at 2x I can shoot a running deer at 15 yards and still shoot a standing one at 100 no problem if they are further out than between my near and far zero I have time to turn the dial.

Sounds good for close up, big target

I definitely got more than i anticipated! That's a good thing though. I may have to reread a couple million times to understand it, but I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to explain.

What scope would you recommend? If i were to go with Leupold's 2-7x33 or vortex's 2-7x32 which one would you get. does leupold sell a 2-7x32? I don't really want to spend more than $200 for a scope. I am not really in to precision shooting so I don't need anything fancy.

I also saw that leupold's 2-7x33 had two versions VX I, and VX II. What is the difference?

Also after looking, what's a BDC reticle.

I might shoot some paper this summer, haven't for ten years or more, and see what duplex measures out to at 300 yds, it might help me confirm me yardage estimate, I wish I had good quality rangefinder, my 20 year old Bushnell is a poc

BDC = Bullet Drop Compensating

NOT NEEDED with the lil .222

Just PRACTICE at longer ranges you COULD shoot, to learn where the lead flys.

Coyotes were DOA out to 400 yds-ish out in Idaho with my .222.....if not much wind. I was blessed to have a local range to practice long shots.

Windy days, the .257 Ackley did the job.

I agree. Get a simple 4x and get some practice with it. That will work fine.

Typically you won't be shooting very long distances with a .222/20 ga. combo gun.