Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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Glad i left there 17 years ago wish i could get my mom out of there While Nevada is much better than Oregon it's starting to creep in there also .......it's unbelievable ! My dad lives in VC and uncle in Dayton
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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Yes vegas is in controll and its only going to get worse. Was planning on moving to Idaho for retirement but afraid the California invaders will have ruined it by then. Same here , Idaho is the fastest growing state right now and I'm hearing stories of the ill effects
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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Hard to find a normal place to live anymore...
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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They will need to collect a lot of signatures before they can get it one the ballot. May do it but requires a lot of work. This is what happens when Californians move into your state.
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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They will need to collect a lot of signatures before they can get it one the ballot. May do it but requires a lot of work. This is what happens when Californians move into your state.
Ted I thought I read somewhere they need 85,000 signatures ..........
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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I don't see how it matters how many signatures they need. It's unconstitutional.
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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I say collect signatures for a law that forcibly deports anyone wanting to change the constitution.
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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I say collect signatures for a law that forcibly deports anyone wanting to change the constitution. I don't think so. We gun owners may want to change the Constitution some day.
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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The way I see it, is that there is no stopping it now. Without a revolution anyway. The rot is to deep now. Just thinking about which state would be a better place to live says a lot....they are all turning into another CA. at a rapid rate. My own view is that they are putting something in the water. The special election in PA is a great example. After everything Trump has done to help those people they turned around and voted for a Democrat. Some of those I saw interviewed said they wanted "change". I couldnt help but think they dont like lower taxes and better jobs. Some said they voted Democrat because the guy was a local and a veteran.....Because of whatever is in the water nowadays they dont have the brains to realize that, that democrat they just voted in, is going to go to Washington and vote right along party lines and will do nothing to help the POTUS that has done so much for the country. Concur.
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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We compromised with trapping, how has that worked out? The issue of killing is from the heart, not from the tool used to perform the act. Compromise on guns will end up just like with trapping. Over-regulated or outright banned!
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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No new anti gun laws, period.
Can you hear that voice or are ya deaf?
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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No new anti gun laws, period.
Can you hear that voice or are ya deaf? X2
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I say collect signatures for a law that forcibly deports anyone wanting to change the constitution. Nothing wrong with changing the Constitution. It's hard to do, but that's the point.
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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No new anti gun laws, period.
Can you hear that voice or are ya deaf? Unless it's bump stocks, right? Post up that eagle over the flag sign again.
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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No new anti gun laws, period.
Can you hear that voice or are ya deaf? Marty, one would have to be deaf if he cannot hear the voice of the outraged parents and students demanding that something be done-And Politicians certainly aren't deaf to what may hurt them. One thing that we all must consider- we all know that the anti-gun folks know that POLITICIANS WILL LISTEN if they see a threat to their elections. Some politicians may be a friend of gun owners because they believe it helps them get elected. But the other side of the coin is that they may see an association with the NRA as a negative to their campaign. Few of our election officials will say they are absolutely against any changes in gun laws if their head is on the chopping block. Would anyone favor a tax hike to cover the costs of increased metal health services for all who need it?
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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I say collect signatures for a law that forcibly deports anyone wanting to change the constitution. I don't think so. We gun owners may want to change the Constitution some day. Change it back, more like!
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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Marty, one would have to be deaf if he cannot hear the voice of the outraged parents and students demanding that something be done-And Politicians certainly aren't deaf to what may hurt them. One thing that we all must consider- we all know that the anti-gun folks know that POLITICIANS WILL LISTEN if they see a threat to their elections.
Some politicians may be a friend of gun owners because they believe it helps them get elected. But the other side of the coin is that they may see an association with the NRA as a negative to their campaign. Few of our election officials will say they are absolutely against any changes in gun laws if their head is on the chopping block.
Would anyone favor a tax hike to cover the costs of increased metal health services for all who need it?
Your waving the white flag pretty hard....go ahead and surrender before any fight starts if that makes you feel better.
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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No new anti gun laws, period.
Can you hear that voice or are ya deaf? Unless it's bump stocks, right? Post up that eagle over the flag sign again. Full auto which is what bump stocks enable are regulated....already. Banning bump stocks would not be a new gun control law it would be closing a loophole.
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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That's not very nice.....your true color is showing.
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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I say collect signatures for a law that forcibly deports anyone wanting to ignore the constitution. Fixed it for Ya.
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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The whole " not infringed " part went out the window a good while back, But to be honest, the way things arena is as much as I am willing to give. All ya anti gun folks talk about Compromise" It ain't a compromise the nothing gets given back. We started of with a cake and now the anti gun folks have half of it .... we get zero in return. Nothing , nada. They are just hacking away at that cake and eating as much as they can get. As far as I am concerned. This is as much as you are going to get. Bake yer own and leave me whats left of it. As I so far have not gotten anything in return. Thats not a compromise ... thats stealing in my book. And its over and done with.
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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The whole " not infringed " part went out the window a good while back, But to be honest, the way things arena is as much as I am willing to give. All ya anti gun folks talk about Compromise" It ain't a compromise the nothing gets given back. We started of with a cake and now the anti gun folks have half of it .... we get zero in return. Nothing , nada. They are just hacking away at that cake and eating as much as they can get. As far as I am concerned. This is as much as you are going to get. Bake yer own and leave me whats left of it. As I so far have not gotten anything in return. Thats not a compromise ... thats stealing in my book. And its over and done with. Exactly Scuba. In any compromise with the anti 2A crowd what do they give the Pro 2A crowd? Less freedom is our reward.
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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Flyny , when if ever have you offered a real solution outside your typical la la land dream world rhetoric ?
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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Flyny , when if ever have you offered a real solution outside your typical la la land dream world rhetoric ? When the words I offer are taken as LALA land...well boys, then what? Do I need to call the half step march until you get up to speed or do I continue to be an outlyer? If I move even one of you more towards being free and less feartful than I have done my part. What can you say to me other than I'm no longer on the teeter totter of B.S.?
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Finn,your more persistent than the jehovas witnesses that take a door to door beating every sat morning.
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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OK FF ya can stop now. I feel a lot more free and as far as fearful goes, I am ok as long as I can keep one light on at night. Your work is done. So now you can walk of into the sunset together with the climate change boys and the rest of the morons. Toodle pip. Edit: Take Grykhl with you on your way out please. And if ya find James and Adickted angler and you dry those two and then rub them together, you can make a bonfire for something along those lines.
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Re: Liberal Lunacy .......... Anti - gun
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Fynny , The ship sailed sailed already , before you were born .
While I can appreciate your stance on pure freedom , it won't happen until AFTER full collapse .
Meanwhile we have to dump fuel to slow the nose dive .
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Old Kings English for "so long" , good by, or if in Californistan, adios.
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why dump fuel, let them run straight into it. Walk in the park as far as I see it. Half those nuts will hand in the chips if ya switch of the AC and a good lot will bite the dust when they cant find the ingredients for french toast crisis food. Just stop carting food to the big cities is all it would take if it came to a crunch.
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why dump fuel, let them run straight into it. Walk in the park as far as I see it. Half those nuts will hand in the chips if ya switch of the AC and a good lot will bite the dust when they cant find the ingredients for french toast crisis food. Just stop carting food to the big cities is all it would take if it came to a crunch. Good, you can be first mate. Organize the galley.
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I am of the grid as it is, got food and water for a long time and can raise the anchor and move my " house" to any place that has a couple of feet of water. ( quite looking forward to the ice caps melting as then I could visit the kids in PA and take my house with me.
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FlyinFinn, holy cow your back. I thought maybe you had a really bad cheeto hangover and was busy scrubbing the bright orange stain out of the crotch of your Benedict Arnold costume!!
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Flyny , when if ever have you offered a real solution outside your typical la la land dream world rhetoric ? Boy oh boy that is rich coming from you.
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LOL ..... Me crew for you, now thats funny. I would not trust you with a wet mop to swab the deck of any of my boats. Have a beer with ya dock side any old day. But don't have room for the likes of you on my fleet.
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Best ya can hope for is sitting in the dink on a loooong tow line snatching stuff out of the water that proper crew may drop over the side for you lol
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Yes vegas is in controll and its only going to get worse. Was planning on moving to Idaho for retirement but afraid the California invaders will have ruined it by then. Same here , Idaho is the fastest growing state right now and I'm hearing stories of the ill effects I retired to Idaho From PA last year. I am seeing a lot of California plates on vehicles here. One problem is when Californians sell there very expensive home in their state, they can purchase the same type of home in Idaho for 1/3 to 1/2 of the price and it is causing real estate here to skyrocket,
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I retired to Idaho From PA last year. I am seeing a lot of California plates on vehicles here. One problem is when Californians sell there very expensive home in their state, they can purchase the same type of home in Idaho for 1/3 to 1/2 of the price and it is causing real estate here to skyrocket,
Same thing happened here Grandpa Trapper. Our property prices were low and our property taxes were low which drew a bunch from Lancaster county that were fleeing the creep of the east coast. Now our property taxes are sky-high because they forgot why they moved here and brought their "wants" with them. Now ya can't even buy straight up and down mountain ground for what we use to pay for good flat ground. When a farm gets sold, you don't even have to ask where the people are from anymore because it's always east of here.
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