No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Good Bye England! #6192186
03/19/18 09:21 AM
03/19/18 09:21 AM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 5,895
michigan,USA
S
seniortrap Offline OP
trapper
seniortrap  Offline OP
trapper
S

Joined: May 2012
Posts: 5,895
michigan,USA
Goodbye, England

So, England doesn't like the U.S. recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel!!!!! Imagine that!

I thought this might give you a better understanding of the insidiousness of Hijrah; that's the takeover of a nation without going to war.

Don't think for a moment that America is not a target or that there are no American cities where Islamic and Sharia victories and takeovers have already occurred.

It's time for border control, or start planning for a very big goodbye to the American way of life!


Here's what has already happened to England within a few years of opening their borders without any entry control.

How the British have passively succumbed to the Musloid invasion:

Mayor of London ... MUSLIM

Mayor of Birmingham ... MUSLIM

Mayor of Leeds .. MUSLIM

Mayor of Blackburn ... MUSLIM

Mayor of Sheffield ... MUSLIM

Mayor of Oxford .. MUSLIM

Mayor of Luton .... MUSLIM

Mayor of Oldham ... MUSLIM

Mayor of Rochdale .... MUSLIM

All the following achieved by just 4 million Muslims out of the 66 million population:

Over 3,000 Muslim Mosques

Over 130 Muslim Sharia Courts

Over 50 Muslim Sharia Councils

Muslims Only No-Go Areas Across The UK

Muslim Women...78% don't work and are on FREE benefits/housing

Muslim Men...63% don't work and are on FREE benefits/housing

Muslim Families...6-8 children planning to go on FREE benefits/housing and now all UK schools are ONLY serving HALAL MEAT!


...and we (the USA and CANADA) can't decide on an immigration policy???


One of the ways to combat this is to keep circulating information such as this e-mail around our United States and Canada to inform the uninformed, who mainly only listen and read the left leaning US and Canadian radio/TV and newspapers. I have not seen this in the US or Canadian media...have you?


Right now in Hamtramck, Michigan a couple of Muslims are on the board. ( It used to be a Polish district only )
If you drive through Dearborn and not Muslim, your in the minority.

So be aware of the changes and be prepared to be threatened with minority status.

Lock and Load!

Oh, that's right they had theirs taken away.

Last edited by seniortrap; 03/19/18 09:30 AM.

Vietnam--1967 46th. Const./Combat Engineers

"Chaotic action is preferable to orderly inaction."
"After the first shot, all plans go out the window!"
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6192193
03/19/18 09:26 AM
03/19/18 09:26 AM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Why is everything underlined though?

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6192199
03/19/18 09:29 AM
03/19/18 09:29 AM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 5,895
michigan,USA
S
seniortrap Offline OP
trapper
seniortrap  Offline OP
trapper
S

Joined: May 2012
Posts: 5,895
michigan,USA
I hit the U !

Sorry if it bothers anyone.

There is that better?

Last edited by seniortrap; 03/19/18 09:30 AM.

Vietnam--1967 46th. Const./Combat Engineers

"Chaotic action is preferable to orderly inaction."
"After the first shot, all plans go out the window!"
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6192202
03/19/18 09:33 AM
03/19/18 09:33 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,381
Perham Minnesota 54
R
racerboy108 Offline
trapper
racerboy108  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,381
Perham Minnesota 54
What the word freedom means to us is not what they define it as.

Immigrants hear the first part of the word as in free and they feel they are entitled to come to our country and live free off the programs are country dishes out.

Follow the money and you will see what party supports immigrants coming by the thousands for in trade for future votes.

Selling our country out one vote at a time. And yes the populations in certain major cities is being dominated by immigrants.

I see it in st cloud Mn even. And there are other areas as well.

I don't understand why we as a country need to meddle into everything in other countries on deciding what the capital of what is.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6192220
03/19/18 09:55 AM
03/19/18 09:55 AM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 5,895
michigan,USA
S
seniortrap Offline OP
trapper
seniortrap  Offline OP
trapper
S

Joined: May 2012
Posts: 5,895
michigan,USA
Lock and Load!

There may be a great need some time.


Vietnam--1967 46th. Const./Combat Engineers

"Chaotic action is preferable to orderly inaction."
"After the first shot, all plans go out the window!"
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6192238
03/19/18 10:23 AM
03/19/18 10:23 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 62,657
Minnesota
330-Trapper Online content

trapper
330-Trapper  Online Content

trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 62,657
Minnesota
Crying Shame is what it is!


NRA and NTA Life Member
www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com




Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6192257
03/19/18 10:40 AM
03/19/18 10:40 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 34,751
Central, SD
Law Dog Offline
trapper
Law Dog  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 34,751
Central, SD
Interesting videos on youtube about Muslim demographics and birthrates!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6192521
03/19/18 04:21 PM
03/19/18 04:21 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,381
Perham Minnesota 54
R
racerboy108 Offline
trapper
racerboy108  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,381
Perham Minnesota 54
My sweetheart is 100% English and I am mostly English myself.

She lived there years ago and she is torn on how far apart the country has fallen.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6192791
03/19/18 08:06 PM
03/19/18 08:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 17,692
Central Oregon
AntiGov Offline
trapper
AntiGov  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 17,692
Central Oregon
Disturbing !


Report a post club - Non member


Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6192875
03/19/18 09:01 PM
03/19/18 09:01 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,144
Central Florida/ Formerly Ohio
H
Hoppytrapsfur Offline
trapper
Hoppytrapsfur  Offline
trapper
H

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,144
Central Florida/ Formerly Ohio
How can I sign up for all the free stuff?

I'm American!

Will



"Dad gum it" Larry C. RIP
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6192924
03/19/18 09:35 PM
03/19/18 09:35 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,381
Perham Minnesota 54
R
racerboy108 Offline
trapper
racerboy108  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,381
Perham Minnesota 54
I was thinking and we should really pay attention to what happened to England as its happening here already and that our future.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6192949
03/19/18 09:46 PM
03/19/18 09:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
J
James Offline
"Minka"
James  Offline
"Minka"
J

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho


Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6192952
03/19/18 09:47 PM
03/19/18 09:47 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
J
James Offline
"Minka"
James  Offline
"Minka"
J

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
That means it's FAKE NEWS.

Jim


Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6192973
03/19/18 10:04 PM
03/19/18 10:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 17,692
Central Oregon
AntiGov Offline
trapper
AntiGov  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 17,692
Central Oregon

Last edited by AntiGov; 03/19/18 10:36 PM.

Report a post club - Non member


Re: Good Bye England! [Re: James] #6193003
03/19/18 10:29 PM
03/19/18 10:29 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 19,926
SEPA
L
Lugnut Offline
trapper
Lugnut  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 19,926
SEPA
Originally Posted By: James



Originally Posted By: James
That means it's FAKE NEWS.

Jim


The article James linked confirms that the OP's claims are mostly true. The author admits having no idea how many mosques or Sharia courts there actually are but doesn't feel as though there are that many.

Fake news? I don't think so.


Eh...wot?

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: James] #6193013
03/19/18 10:38 PM
03/19/18 10:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 3,209
Co.-Wy. part time AK.
W
wy.wolfer Offline
trapper
wy.wolfer  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 3,209
Co.-Wy. part time AK.
Originally Posted By: James
A lot of the claims are incorrect.

https://fullfact.org/news/muslims-uk-viral-poster-factchecked/
James, This just states that "They" don't know the exact statistics. This dosen't mean that it's "fake news".

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: AntiGov] #6193015
03/19/18 10:39 PM
03/19/18 10:39 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,381
Perham Minnesota 54
R
racerboy108 Offline
trapper
racerboy108  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,381
Perham Minnesota 54


That would be our worst nightmare.

To some they only would see votes but to others would see the havoc it would put on our country

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193017
03/19/18 10:41 PM
03/19/18 10:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
J
James Offline
"Minka"
James  Offline
"Minka"
J

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
They don't know the number of churches and mosques in the UK it said.

They did know who the mayors were. And the email is false on this point.

This email is bigoted in intent. Who cares how many mosques there are in Britain, anyway?

Jim

Last edited by James; 03/19/18 10:42 PM.

Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193073
03/19/18 11:55 PM
03/19/18 11:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Marty Offline
trapper
Marty  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
I care how many mosques there are in England...and I really do not care for muslims.

At all.

Imagine how much better off the world would be without them....England and the western EU will be controlled by them as a majority of the population in the near future.


E
'Honey Badger Militia'
Sleep, the anti woke adote.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193096
03/20/18 12:49 AM
03/20/18 12:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,895
Oakland, MS
Drifter Online content
trapper
Drifter  Online Content
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,895
Oakland, MS
Full fact. org appears to be a UK version of snopes. Lot of dodging by use of We’re not aware of any data on benefit claimants by religion. Noticed they had to toss out the cover all else race card too.


Some individuals use statistics as a drunk man uses lamp-posts — for support rather than for illumination.

Andrew Lang (1844-1912) Scottish poet, novelist and literary critic









Life member NTA , and GA Trappers assoc .
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: James] #6193099
03/20/18 12:59 AM
03/20/18 12:59 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,582
The Panhandle of Alaska
M
mad_mike Offline
trapper
mad_mike  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,582
The Panhandle of Alaska
Originally Posted By: James
Who cares how many mosques there are in Britain, anyway?

Jim


I do.


Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193101
03/20/18 01:04 AM
03/20/18 01:04 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
J
James Offline
"Minka"
James  Offline
"Minka"
J

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
Why?

Jim


Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193104
03/20/18 01:07 AM
03/20/18 01:07 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,582
The Panhandle of Alaska
M
mad_mike Offline
trapper
mad_mike  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,582
The Panhandle of Alaska
Because I do not embrace what intends to destroy me and my family.


Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193106
03/20/18 01:09 AM
03/20/18 01:09 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
J
James Offline
"Minka"
James  Offline
"Minka"
J

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
So Muslims are after you?

Have you called the police?

Jim


Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193107
03/20/18 01:09 AM
03/20/18 01:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,582
The Panhandle of Alaska
M
mad_mike Offline
trapper
mad_mike  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,582
The Panhandle of Alaska
Silly troll..


Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193109
03/20/18 01:12 AM
03/20/18 01:12 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
J
James Offline
"Minka"
James  Offline
"Minka"
J

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
Does the "mad" in your name mean that you're angry or crazy?

Jim


Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193111
03/20/18 01:15 AM
03/20/18 01:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,582
The Panhandle of Alaska
M
mad_mike Offline
trapper
mad_mike  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,582
The Panhandle of Alaska
Silly Troll...


Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193114
03/20/18 01:30 AM
03/20/18 01:30 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
J
James Offline
"Minka"
James  Offline
"Minka"
J

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
Let's explore this Islamophobia of yours. How long have you been afraid of Muslims?

Jim


Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193116
03/20/18 01:40 AM
03/20/18 01:40 AM
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 10,404
Northeast Oklahoma
M
Mike in A-town Offline
trapper
Mike in A-town  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 10,404
Northeast Oklahoma
I wouldn't worry too much about it...

Britain's strict gun control measures will prevent anything awful from happening.

On the flip side when the whole island is reduced to a third-world slaughterhouse I feel no obligation to bail them out.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

Vladimir Lenin
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: James] #6193163
03/20/18 06:35 AM
03/20/18 06:35 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 19,926
SEPA
L
Lugnut Offline
trapper
Lugnut  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 19,926
SEPA
Originally Posted By: James
They don't know the number of churches and mosques in the UK it said.

They did know who the mayors were. And the email is false on this point.

Jim


They said they think the number is somewhat less than the 3,000 reported in the email. But they really don't know.

The linked article said all of the cities reported in the email did have Muslim mayors at some point. Some did not at the time of the article. London is one of the many cities that still does.

The article confirms that most of the email is true. It certainly doesn't discredit it and certainly doesn't show it to be "fake news."


Eh...wot?

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193169
03/20/18 06:45 AM
03/20/18 06:45 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 29,750
williamsburg ks
D
danny clifton Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton  Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
D

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 29,750
williamsburg ks
I'm scared of any religious zealot. Islam does seem to have more than its share. Tell a Christian their religion is all fairy tales, they may get mad, may start praying or quoting the bible or something, but are unlikely to assault you.

Islam requires a true believer to kill anyone who blasphemes Islam. We don't need to import any more.



Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193188
03/20/18 07:05 AM
03/20/18 07:05 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 19,926
SEPA
L
Lugnut Offline
trapper
Lugnut  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 19,926
SEPA
When the left told us all repeatedly that "Islam is the religion of peace", James apparently believed them.


Eh...wot?

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193193
03/20/18 07:11 AM
03/20/18 07:11 AM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 3,009
ohio
T
tomahawker Offline
trapper
tomahawker  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 3,009
ohio
All else being equal, human nature is to vote or pick someone like themselves. Muslims will always vote for a Muslim. Read period. We already have a culture and it has made us the greatest country in the world. No need to change. Furthermore where are all the English and Americans who have moved to Muslim countries? They don't. It's better here...

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: danny clifton] #6193216
03/20/18 07:35 AM
03/20/18 07:35 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
J
James Offline
"Minka"
James  Offline
"Minka"
J

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
Originally Posted By: danny clifton
I'm scared of any religious zealot. Islam does seem to have more than its share. Tell a Christian their religion is all fairy tales, they may get mad, may start praying or quoting the bible or something, but are unlikely to assault you.

Islam requires a true believer to kill anyone who blasphemes Islam. We don't need to import any more.



I agree we don't necessarily need to import more, but have to point out that the vast majority of Muslims here in the US want to coexist peacefully with the rest of us.

Jim


Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: tomahawker] #6193220
03/20/18 07:40 AM
03/20/18 07:40 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
J
James Offline
"Minka"
James  Offline
"Minka"
J

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
Originally Posted By: tomahawker
All else being equal, human nature is to vote or pick someone like themselves. Muslims will always vote for a Muslim. Read period. We already have a culture and it has made us the greatest country in the world. No need to change. Furthermore where are all the English and Americans who have moved to Muslim countries? They don't. It's better here...


Of course it's better here. Because we have rights, like those recognized by the First Amendment, including freedom of religion.

Islam is a religion, not an ethnicity or race.

Jim


Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193224
03/20/18 07:47 AM
03/20/18 07:47 AM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,347
New Mexico
C
Chamacat Offline
trapper
Chamacat  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,347
New Mexico
Yep..Looks like in the U.S. Constitution that the any faith may be free to exist. So looks like to me some are just going to have to move over so the rest can get in..


I can catch them here...I can catch them ANYWHERE
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193237
03/20/18 08:16 AM
03/20/18 08:16 AM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Some would like to only selectively apply the Constitution when it's convenient.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193255
03/20/18 08:42 AM
03/20/18 08:42 AM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 3,009
ohio
T
tomahawker Offline
trapper
tomahawker  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 3,009
ohio
Where they are from Islam IS the religion. They are not here as a result of persecution. Neither are they here for rights or liberty. Nor love of America. Economic opportunity is the main as it has been for quite some time.. It's undeniable America is a Christian culture as a whole. Granted less so today. While far from perfect, we've done rather well. It is that Christian culture coupled with intelligence and experience that birthed this great nation. Allowing us to flourish and grow. Not all of us identify as Christian but without a doubt we are culturally. When in Rome....

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: tomahawker] #6193264
03/20/18 08:48 AM
03/20/18 08:48 AM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 6,501
Wi.
D
Diggerman Offline
trapper
Diggerman  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 6,501
Wi.
Originally Posted By: tomahawker
Where they are from Islam IS the religion. They are not here as a result of persecution. Neither are they here for rights or liberty. Nor love of America. Economic opportunity is the main as it has been for quite some time.. It's undeniable America is a Christian culture as a whole. Granted less so today. While far from perfect, we've done rather well. It is that Christian culture coupled with intelligence and experience that birthed this great nation. Allowing us to flourish and grow. Not all of us identify as Christian but without a doubt we are culturally. When in Rome....

Remember, "you didn't build this".

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193268
03/20/18 08:53 AM
03/20/18 08:53 AM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 3,009
ohio
T
tomahawker Offline
trapper
tomahawker  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 3,009
ohio
If you doubt it have a Merry Christmas

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: James] #6193289
03/20/18 09:09 AM
03/20/18 09:09 AM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 17,456
Wheaton Ks
L
lee steinmeyer Offline
trapper
lee steinmeyer  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 17,456
Wheaton Ks
Originally Posted By: James
Originally Posted By: tomahawker
All else being equal, human nature is to vote or pick someone like themselves. Muslims will always vote for a Muslim. Read period. We already have a culture and it has made us the greatest country in the world. No need to change. Furthermore where are all the English and Americans who have moved to Muslim countries? They don't. It's better here...


Of course it's better here. Because we have rights, like those recognized by the First Amendment, including freedom of religion.

Islam is a religion, not an ethnicity or race.

Jim


Your wrong councilor, it is a cult, inspired by a loony child molester that sat arounfd the jews campfires while they were trading. They are here to kill us or breed us out of existence, what part of the lib mindset can't get that? They are not a religion of peace, never have been and never will be. You wish to see this country under shiria law, just keep thinking that garbage!


YOU CAN IGNORE REALITY, BUT YOU CANNOT IGNORE THE CONSEQUENCES OF IGNORING REALITY.

http://www.lptraplinesupply.com
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: tomahawker] #6193304
03/20/18 09:22 AM
03/20/18 09:22 AM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: tomahawker
Where they are from Islam IS the religion. They are not here as a result of persecution. Neither are they here for rights or liberty. Nor love of America. Economic opportunity is the main as it has been for quite some time.. It's undeniable America is a Christian culture as a whole. Granted less so today. While far from perfect, we've done rather well. It is that Christian culture coupled with intelligence and experience that birthed this great nation. Allowing us to flourish and grow. Not all of us identify as Christian but without a doubt we are culturally. When in Rome....


Wasn't it the "muzzies" that pulled Christian Europe out of the dark ages?

I think what makes America unique isn't Christianity but that its a continent inhabited by risk takers and hard workers. Europe sucked and people were starving so the more daring ones said "forget this" and risked their lives and leave their families to come over here....not much has changed the immigrant experience in the last 400 years.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193312
03/20/18 09:30 AM
03/20/18 09:30 AM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,131
Kentucky
K
Kyt Offline
trapper
Kyt  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,131
Kentucky
Nobody is going to control England in the near or distant future but the British. Most things people fear never happen. Fear not. Spend your energy elsewhere.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Tweed] #6193327
03/20/18 09:47 AM
03/20/18 09:47 AM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 17,456
Wheaton Ks
L
lee steinmeyer Offline
trapper
lee steinmeyer  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 17,456
Wheaton Ks
Originally Posted By: Tweed
Originally Posted By: tomahawker
Where they are from Islam IS the religion. They are not here as a result of persecution. Neither are they here for rights or liberty. Nor love of America. Economic opportunity is the main as it has been for quite some time.. It's undeniable America is a Christian culture as a whole. Granted less so today. While far from perfect, we've done rather well. It is that Christian culture coupled with intelligence and experience that birthed this great nation. Allowing us to flourish and grow. Not all of us identify as Christian but without a doubt we are culturally. When in Rome....


Wasn't it the "muzzies" that pulled Christian Europe out of the dark ages?

I think what makes America unique isn't Christianity but that its a continent inhabited by risk takers and hard workers. Europe sucked and people were starving so the more daring ones said "forget this" and risked their lives and leave their families to come over here....not much has changed the immigrant experience in the last 400 years.


Our forefathers came to this country to escape religious persicution for the most part. Muzzies are not here for that, neither are they here to build anything but their religion. What does it take to get the point accross, your daughter raped? That is what is happening now in Germany, with their stupid muticurturalism. You want that here, just keep thinking their great! What I don't get is the liberals embrace these people, but they are in direct conflict with the libs so called inclusion of queers and everything they stand for. Why?


YOU CAN IGNORE REALITY, BUT YOU CANNOT IGNORE THE CONSEQUENCES OF IGNORING REALITY.

http://www.lptraplinesupply.com
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193328
03/20/18 09:50 AM
03/20/18 09:50 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,110
Three Lakes,WI 72
C
corky Offline
trapper
corky  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,110
Three Lakes,WI 72
Tweed: Please explain:

"Wasn't it the "muzzies" that pulled Christian Europe out of the dark ages?"

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193334
03/20/18 09:59 AM
03/20/18 09:59 AM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
I can look up some decent articles later in the day.

If you have a library near you (or you could even buy the book) check out "How the Arabs Transformed Western Civilization" by Jonathan Lyons Bloomsbury

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193335
03/20/18 10:00 AM
03/20/18 10:00 AM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 5,895
michigan,USA
S
seniortrap Offline OP
trapper
seniortrap  Offline OP
trapper
S

Joined: May 2012
Posts: 5,895
michigan,USA
Quote:
I agree we don't necessarily need to import more, but have to point out that the vast majority of Muslims here in the US want to coexist peacefully with the rest of us.

Jim


Then I guess the Muslims that have created havoc here were just pent up rage?

Do you not realize what moles are in our society? Keep your head in the sand.

The Islamic radical followers are just continuing the Christian Crusades to their end gain.

Tell me why they always have to build a mosque wherever they think that they have overcome an area?

Because that's their religious belief. Take a look at Jerusalem with a mosque on top of the Christian Temple remains!!!


Vietnam--1967 46th. Const./Combat Engineers

"Chaotic action is preferable to orderly inaction."
"After the first shot, all plans go out the window!"
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193340
03/20/18 10:02 AM
03/20/18 10:02 AM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Pretty much they reintroduced the greek classics, stirred interested in the sciences, introduced the zero (zed for you canucks) and decimal system, Algebra and many other contributions. Literacy was almost universal in the Arab world at the time while most of Europe was illiterate and the powers that be at the time wanted to keep the masses in the dark.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193346
03/20/18 10:07 AM
03/20/18 10:07 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,110
Three Lakes,WI 72
C
corky Offline
trapper
corky  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,110
Three Lakes,WI 72
I don't agree with your premise or conclusion but thanks for your perspective.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193350
03/20/18 10:10 AM
03/20/18 10:10 AM
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 3,971
South Dakota
R
Rat Masterson Offline
trapper
Rat Masterson  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 3,971
South Dakota
Most of what you speak came from the Greeks, so what your saying is they were good at copying. At least we know where China got their skills.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193356
03/20/18 10:14 AM
03/20/18 10:14 AM
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,240
Minnesota
Woodsloafer72 Offline
trapper
Woodsloafer72  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,240
Minnesota
This is an interesting lecture on Muslims conquering parts of Europe prior to the Crusades. Why we are Afraid, a 1400 year old secret

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193370
03/20/18 10:27 AM
03/20/18 10:27 AM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Marty Offline
trapper
Marty  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Muzzies will outbreed Europeans, including the British within 25-30 years but at the rate they import them it may be a lot sooner.

The native eu birthrate is 1.somehing......muzzies are 10+. Do the math. The problem is severe. Many places a non muslim cannot go without being afraid. Sweden has gone from the friendliest place on earth to the rape capitol of eurpoe because of these people they imported. Merkel and the eu leaders wanted them in because the birthrate was so low and retirement age so young they need workers....

muzzies are also taking over all of africa and parts of asia. The expansion of islam is a problem worldwide. Its a story not spoken about by the media.

Anyone who thinks that muzzies will not be the controlling force in England or the eu before too long is oblivious to the facts and principles of mathematics.



E
'Honey Badger Militia'
Sleep, the anti woke adote.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Marty] #6193378
03/20/18 10:38 AM
03/20/18 10:38 AM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: Marty


muzzies are also taking over all of africa and parts of asia. The expansion of islam is a problem worldwide. Its a story not spoken about by the media.


LOL! Where do you think most Muslims are from?

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193384
03/20/18 10:46 AM
03/20/18 10:46 AM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Marty Offline
trapper
Marty  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Islam started in the area just east of the med.

Today the largest muslim country is 1/2 way around the world from there and the fourth most populated country in the world. That country just gave public corporal punishment to Christians who broke sharia law.


E
'Honey Badger Militia'
Sleep, the anti woke adote.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193387
03/20/18 10:49 AM
03/20/18 10:49 AM
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 10,404
Northeast Oklahoma
M
Mike in A-town Offline
trapper
Mike in A-town  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 10,404
Northeast Oklahoma
Point me to a Muslim-majority country that is a paradise where human/civil rights are valued and respected...

Point me to a country that realized improvement from an increase in Muslim population.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

Vladimir Lenin
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193389
03/20/18 10:52 AM
03/20/18 10:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Marty Offline
trapper
Marty  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
There are no examples of that.


E
'Honey Badger Militia'
Sleep, the anti woke adote.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193409
03/20/18 11:13 AM
03/20/18 11:13 AM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 17,456
Wheaton Ks
L
lee steinmeyer Offline
trapper
lee steinmeyer  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 17,456
Wheaton Ks
Bingo!


YOU CAN IGNORE REALITY, BUT YOU CANNOT IGNORE THE CONSEQUENCES OF IGNORING REALITY.

http://www.lptraplinesupply.com
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Tweed] #6193444
03/20/18 11:32 AM
03/20/18 11:32 AM
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 10,404
Northeast Oklahoma
M
Mike in A-town Offline
trapper
Mike in A-town  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 10,404
Northeast Oklahoma
Originally Posted By: Tweed
Pretty much they reintroduced the greek classics, stirred interested in the sciences, introduced the zero (zed for you canucks) and decimal system, Algebra and many other contributions. Literacy was almost universal in the Arab world at the time while most of Europe was illiterate and the powers that be at the time wanted to keep the masses in the dark.


Yes, the hordes of Moors and Saracens brought a few perks along with a tide of blood...

And we responded with the Crusades.

We built on what we learned from them and moved on.

Where would muslim majority countries be if western companies had not gone over and invested in places like Saudi Arabia?

It's safe to assume they would still be shooting each other off the backs of camels with flintlock jazails fighting over whose goats get to drink at the oasis first.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

Vladimir Lenin
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193496
03/20/18 12:01 PM
03/20/18 12:01 PM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
B
Badgerman50 Offline
trapper
Badgerman50  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
I’ve gotten into it on this site with the fools who try to defend Islam. I’ve come to the conclusion that there will always be a large segment of the population who cannot understand the concept of self preservation. I won’t argue with them. It’s like trying to pet a rattlesnake and thinking eventually I’ll have a good outcome. Isn’t gonna happen. What I won’t do is be quiet about my position.

Islam should be outlawed in our country. Even if we have to amend the first amendment to do it. 95% of Muslims are born enemies of our country. They don’t change over time. In fact some grow worse as they attempt to reclaim their heritage after being “Americanized’”. Those who are adherents to Islam need to be deported or rounded up and confined. This is a much kinder approach than they would use with us were they the majority. Sadly too many muddle headed thinkers exist both here and in Europe to properly deal with the problem. Maybe after enough people have their daughters raped, and citizens murdered by bombs, trucks, and acid attacks, by Muslims, thinking will change. I have a feeling it’s gonna get FAR worse before it gets better- if it gets better at all.


Badgerman
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193507
03/20/18 12:09 PM
03/20/18 12:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 29,750
williamsburg ks
D
danny clifton Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton  Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
D

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 29,750
williamsburg ks
badgerman your as scary as a muslim fundamentalist


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193510
03/20/18 12:10 PM
03/20/18 12:10 PM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
B
Badgerman50 Offline
trapper
Badgerman50  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
Whatever Danny


Badgerman
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Badgerman50] #6193514
03/20/18 12:11 PM
03/20/18 12:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Marty Offline
trapper
Marty  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Originally Posted By: Badgerman50
I’ve gotten into it on this site with the fools who try to defend Islam. I’ve come to the conclusion that there will always be a large segment of the population who cannot understand the concept of self preservation. I won’t argue with them. It’s like trying to pet a rattlesnake and thinking eventually I’ll have a good outcome. Isn’t gonna happen. What I won’t do is be quiet about my position.

Islam should be outlawed in our country. Even if we have to amend the first amendment to do it. 95% of Muslims are born enemies of our country. They don’t change over time. In fact some grow worse as they attempt to reclaim their heritage after being “Americanized’”. Those who are adherents to Islam need to be deported or rounded up and confined. This is a much kinder approach than they would use with us were they the majority. Sadly too many muddle headed thinkers exist both here and in Europe to properly deal with the problem. Maybe after enough people have their daughters raped, and citizens murdered by bombs, trucks, and acid attacks, by Muslims, thinking will change. I have a feeling it’s gonna get FAR worse before it gets better- if it gets better at all.


Your well informed, much more than the average American.


E
'Honey Badger Militia'
Sleep, the anti woke adote.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193539
03/20/18 12:29 PM
03/20/18 12:29 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 29,750
williamsburg ks
D
danny clifton Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton  Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
D

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 29,750
williamsburg ks
I'm glad most Americans don't want to toss the first amendment in the trash bin. If we did it would be a good start toward turning the U.S. into England. Spitting on our ancestors that gave us these freedoms.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193546
03/20/18 12:34 PM
03/20/18 12:34 PM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
B
Badgerman50 Offline
trapper
Badgerman50  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
Cutting Islam out as a protected class covered by the 1st amendment will not destroy the constitution, rather it will preserve it. If you’re so bent on taking us down the road Europe has traveled, why wait. Move there. I’m sure you can still trap mice in Germany.


Badgerman
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193547
03/20/18 12:35 PM
03/20/18 12:35 PM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 17,456
Wheaton Ks
L
lee steinmeyer Offline
trapper
lee steinmeyer  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 17,456
Wheaton Ks
Danny, how do you propose to get rid of a plague that want to kill you, or convert you. Only choice they give you. They should never have been allowed in this country in the first place, but the last potus was a muzzie himself. Our immigration laws are a joke, and they are taking advantage of it...so, how do you say to deal with it?


YOU CAN IGNORE REALITY, BUT YOU CANNOT IGNORE THE CONSEQUENCES OF IGNORING REALITY.

http://www.lptraplinesupply.com
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193563
03/20/18 12:47 PM
03/20/18 12:47 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 29,750
williamsburg ks
D
danny clifton Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton  Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
D

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 29,750
williamsburg ks
Agree with you Lee they shouldn't have been allowed to immigrate. They are here now though. Already posted I see no reason to bring more.

I would rather take a chance on having to kill or getting killed than destroying the first amendment


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193568
03/20/18 12:48 PM
03/20/18 12:48 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 29,750
williamsburg ks
D
danny clifton Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton  Offline
"Grumpy Old Man"
D

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 29,750
williamsburg ks
FWIW the first is in reality a protection from sharia law


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: danny clifton] #6193594
03/20/18 01:02 PM
03/20/18 01:02 PM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 17,456
Wheaton Ks
L
lee steinmeyer Offline
trapper
lee steinmeyer  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 17,456
Wheaton Ks
Originally Posted By: danny clifton

I would rather take a chance on having to kill or getting killed than destroying the first amendment


I believe that this is where we are headed. And maybe sooner than most believe!


YOU CAN IGNORE REALITY, BUT YOU CANNOT IGNORE THE CONSEQUENCES OF IGNORING REALITY.

http://www.lptraplinesupply.com
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193625
03/20/18 01:24 PM
03/20/18 01:24 PM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
B
Badgerman50 Offline
trapper
Badgerman50  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
Why is that, Danny? If you saw something that looks like skin cancer would you take care of it early? Your solution sounds like you’d wait until you’re terminally ill. I would rather amend the constitution than be lying in a mass grave with my pocket constitution proudly tucked in my coat. Since the constitution is already shredded let’s err in OUR favor for once.

These people want you and all you love dead. Why give them any leg up at all. You say I’m as scary as a fundamentalist Muslim because I want my country to be safe? Really? Let’s think this through. If you and I were having this conversation face to face, what is the very worst thing that would happen? We get in a fight? Someone gets punched in the eye? That’s not the same thing as someone slashing your throat or throwing acid in your face? Do you really think I have any wishes for your family other than the very best? That’s all I want for them AND you. Muslims, well they can rot.


Badgerman
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193649
03/20/18 01:56 PM
03/20/18 01:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,790
M.T.V. Alaska
Y
yukonjeff Offline
trapper
yukonjeff  Offline
trapper
Y

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,790
M.T.V. Alaska
They are starting to wake up. Hopefully they get out of bed. Probabaly didn't see any of this on the liberal news channels.


Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193664
03/20/18 02:10 PM
03/20/18 02:10 PM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
B
Badgerman50 Offline
trapper
Badgerman50  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
Excellent video Yukonjeff!!


Badgerman
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193672
03/20/18 02:20 PM
03/20/18 02:20 PM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 3,916
Pa
A
Art S Offline
trapper
Art S  Offline
trapper
A

Joined: May 2011
Posts: 3,916
Pa
They're arresting people in Britain for anti-muslim social media posts / memes,
and banning conservative speakers,thank god we have a Constitution for now.

arrested

bbc



Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Tweed] #6193678
03/20/18 02:31 PM
03/20/18 02:31 PM
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,668
OK
Aaron Proffitt Offline
trapper
Aaron Proffitt  Offline
trapper

Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,668
OK
Originally Posted By: Tweed
Pretty much they reintroduced the greek classics, stirred interested in the sciences, introduced the zero (zed for you canucks) and decimal system, Algebra and many other contributions. Literacy was almost universal in the Arab world at the time while most of Europe was illiterate and the powers that be at the time wanted to keep the masses in the dark.


And that’s as far as they ever got . I’ve been to enough Arab countries to know they’re cesspools . In all respects .


Honor a Soldier. Be the kind of American worth fighting for.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #6193690
03/20/18 02:44 PM
03/20/18 02:44 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 19,926
SEPA
L
Lugnut Offline
trapper
Lugnut  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 19,926
SEPA
Originally Posted By: Aaron Proffitt
Originally Posted By: Tweed
Pretty much they reintroduced the greek classics, stirred interested in the sciences, introduced the zero (zed for you canucks) and decimal system, Algebra and many other contributions. Literacy was almost universal in the Arab world at the time while most of Europe was illiterate and the powers that be at the time wanted to keep the masses in the dark.


And that’s as far as they ever got . I’ve been to enough Arab countries to know they’re cesspools . In all respects .


Exactly.

Tweed, would you care to explain why, in your opinion, these advanced, intelligent, cultured people live, for the most part, in third-world cesspools? Why do they cling to ancient ideologies like their views on gays and women that are abhorrent to most of today's "enlightened" liberal thinkers.

Maybe, as a culture, they are not as advanced as you'd like to think?


Eh...wot?

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193712
03/20/18 03:21 PM
03/20/18 03:21 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 15,520
Champaign County, Ohio.
K
KeithC Offline
trapper
KeithC  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 15,520
Champaign County, Ohio.
Tweed is correct in that around a 1000 years ago the Muslim countries were fairly advanced compared to much of the rest of the World. Their religion, customs and governments prevented them from progressing further and continues to hold back Muslim people in most Muslim countries.

Islam is the religion of stagnation, not peace.

Keith

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Lugnut] #6193733
03/20/18 03:45 PM
03/20/18 03:45 PM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 17,456
Wheaton Ks
L
lee steinmeyer Offline
trapper
lee steinmeyer  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 17,456
Wheaton Ks
Originally Posted By: Lugnut


And that’s as far as they ever got . I’ve been to enough Arab countries to know they’re cesspools . In all respects .


Exactly.

Tweed, would you care to explain why, in your opinion, these advanced, intelligent, cultured people live, for the most part, in third-world cesspools? Why do they cling to ancient ideologies like their views on gays and women that are abhorrent to most of today's "enlightened" liberal thinkers.

Maybe, as a culture, they are not as advanced as you'd like to think?
[/quote]

And that is why I posed the question earlier asking why liberals are so in love with muslims. They hate everything that libs hold dear, but want us to be over run by them.....it don't make sense!


YOU CAN IGNORE REALITY, BUT YOU CANNOT IGNORE THE CONSEQUENCES OF IGNORING REALITY.

http://www.lptraplinesupply.com
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193738
03/20/18 03:49 PM
03/20/18 03:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,577
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
T
Trapper7 Offline
trapper
Trapper7  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,577
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
I know a person who moved here 20 years ago from Manchester. He stopped going back to visit because of what he calls the Muslim Invasion. He said it's scary to see the changes. In interviews with Muslims over there, over 80% said they would prefer Sharia Law over England's law according to him.

Sharia Law:
Muslims are permitted to lie to non-Muslims also known as infidels.
Women's rights are diminished.
Polygamy. Men are allowed up to 4 wives.
Pedophilia. Muslim men can marry girls as young as 14. However, Muhammad took a wife named Ayesha that was 9 years old.
Muslim husbands allowed to beat their wives as a form of discipline.
Severe retribution including amputating limbs and gouging out eyes for crimes such as theft.
Allows for the killing of adulterers and homosexuals.
Imprisonment and/or execution for blasphemers and non-believers.
A woman alleging rape, must have 3 male witnesses.

Since James seems so sympathetic to the Muslim cause, you must condone Sharia Law. You can't have it both ways.


I don't care how nice the hand soap smells, you should never walk out of the restroom sniffing your fingers.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: KeithC] #6193742
03/20/18 03:53 PM
03/20/18 03:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: KeithC
Tweed is correct in that around a 1000 years ago the Muslim countries were fairly advanced compared to much of the rest of the World. Their religion, customs and governments prevented them from progressing further and continues to hold back Muslim people in most Muslim countries.

Islam is the religion of stagnation, not peace.

Keith


I don't necessarily disagree with this. I will say that the Muslims I deal with here in the US are very westernized and well educated. They're religious people but so am I, so I can understand their views on most things.

Governments are crap...all of them.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Lugnut] #6193747
03/20/18 03:56 PM
03/20/18 03:56 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: Lugnut


Exactly.

Tweed, would you care to explain why, in your opinion, these advanced, intelligent, cultured people live, for the most part, in third-world cesspools? Why do they cling to ancient ideologies like their views on gays and women that are abhorrent to most of today's "enlightened" liberal thinkers.

Maybe, as a culture, they are not as advanced as you'd like to think?


Governments are crap. Their ideologies are no more archaic than those of Christians (which liberals seem to not like either).

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193765
03/20/18 04:08 PM
03/20/18 04:08 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 15,520
Champaign County, Ohio.
K
KeithC Offline
trapper
KeithC  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 15,520
Champaign County, Ohio.
The US has two very distinct types of Muslim immigrants.

First there are the well educated, hard working, Muslims, who left there countries for more freedom and better economic opportunities. They paid their own way here. Many are doctors, scientists and engineers. The ones in this group are mostly agnostic or not very strong believers. They will probably fully assimilate into American culture.

The second type of Muslim immigrants, were brought over by the US government and groups like Catholic and Lutherans Social Services. They are the unwanted people from many of the worst countries on Earth. They are often uneducated, often fanatically religious and of a vastly different mindset than most Americans. They experienced barbaric acts and when pushed, or even on a whim, commit barbaric acts. We should not allow any more of these people into the US.

Keith

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193775
03/20/18 04:13 PM
03/20/18 04:13 PM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,324
AK
F
FairbanksLS Offline
trapper
FairbanksLS  Offline
trapper
F

Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,324
AK

In the last 100 years how many Christian countries have the Muslims had an occupying military force in. Now same question only switch the two. They were fine being camel jockies until non-Muslim countries wanted their resources and to spread their ideology.

You harvest what you sow.

We need to stop allowing immigration for any reason without vetting and the applicant needs to cover the cost. No political asylum for anyone.


formerly posting as white dog
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193790
03/20/18 04:25 PM
03/20/18 04:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,790
M.T.V. Alaska
Y
yukonjeff Offline
trapper
yukonjeff  Offline
trapper
Y

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,790
M.T.V. Alaska
Big business/farmers brought in third world people to pick their cotton. Now generations later we are paying ten fold. We have decay in our once great cites, and no go zones in most of our inner cites. So dangerous that it would make Britton look like Disneyland.

Add in another 11 million illegals from our southern boarder with the excuse that we need people to PICK our vegetables... and then Obama government paying churches to fly in plane loads from SH countries every day....do you see a pattern here. and what we are leaving our children for a future.

We are worse off than Europe at the moment.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Tweed] #6193792
03/20/18 04:26 PM
03/20/18 04:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,324
Hancock Co., Indiana
Kart29 Offline
trapper
Kart29  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,324
Hancock Co., Indiana
Originally Posted By: Tweed

Governments are crap. Their ideologies are no more archaic than those of Christians (which liberals seem to not like either).


I think you are right that their ideologies are not archaic. With as many billions of Muslims that currently hold these beliefs, those beliefs by definition must be current and modern. To think that one's own values and ideologies are somehow more advanced, enlightened, informed, or evolved than the values and ideologies of Islam is highly arrogant.

That said, the ideologies of Islam are pure evil.

Moreover, Christianity doesn't expect non-Christians to act like Christians or intend to impose its moral code on non-believers - at least not to a great extent. Western civilization, which has been most largely influenced by a Christian worldview, has produced governments and cultures that value the freedom of individual to do, believe and worship as they please. At the highest levels, Western/Christian laws hold individuals accountable for the way they treat other people, not how they relate to God. Women have reached their highest levels of dignity and equality under a Christian society.

I'm not saying our traditional, western, Judeo-Christian worldview is perfect in the way it has effect western culture. But it's a darn sight better than Islam. The contrast is vivid and striking.

By their deeds you shall know them.


What from Christ that soul can sever,
Bound by everlasting bands?
None shall take thee
From the Strength of Israel's hands.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: FairbanksLS] #6193807
03/20/18 04:41 PM
03/20/18 04:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,324
Hancock Co., Indiana
Kart29 Offline
trapper
Kart29  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,324
Hancock Co., Indiana
Originally Posted By: gray dog

In the last 100 years how many Christian countries have the Muslims had an occupying military force in. Now same question only switch the two. They were fine being camel jockies until non-Muslim countries wanted their resources and to spread their ideology.

You harvest what you sow.

We need to stop allowing immigration for any reason without vetting and the applicant needs to cover the cost. No political asylum for anyone.


What do you mean by a "Christian country"? Name one, please and explain the criteria for qualifying as a "Christian country". There's sizable numbers of Christians in Egypt, Iraq, Tibet, Turkey, Pakistan, China... Those countries have not had an occupying army from a western country in the past 100 years. Yet look at how Christians are treated in those countries. Then compare how Muslims are treated in Western countries shaped by Christian ideology

What Muslim countries have had an occupying military force in them? Seems like we got out of Afghanistan and Iraq and tried to turn those countries over to their own self-governance ASAP. I think the British bailed out of the middle east during or shortly after WWI. And then look at what happened after the Arab Revolt follow the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.

To blame the problems in the middle east on the West buying their oil and trying to convert them to Christianity or other western ideology seems patently ridiculous to me.


What from Christ that soul can sever,
Bound by everlasting bands?
None shall take thee
From the Strength of Israel's hands.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193859
03/20/18 05:29 PM
03/20/18 05:29 PM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,324
AK
F
FairbanksLS Offline
trapper
FairbanksLS  Offline
trapper
F

Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,324
AK
The West is not solely responsible for the problems in the Middle East.

However, when you go into a foreign country and pick the winners and the losers chances are the losers aren't going to forget anytime soon.


formerly posting as white dog
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193884
03/20/18 05:52 PM
03/20/18 05:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Marty Offline
trapper
Marty  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
The muzzies are taking over without using military force....lots of moron countries are bringing them in by the tens of thousands and financing them to stay there.

Stupid is not fixable.


E
'Honey Badger Militia'
Sleep, the anti woke adote.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193969
03/20/18 07:10 PM
03/20/18 07:10 PM
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 16,150
Tennessee
Scuba1 Offline
"color blind Kraut"
Scuba1  Offline
"color blind Kraut"

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 16,150
Tennessee
At 8:01, a guy makes a snowman.

At 8:10, a feminist passed by and asked me why I didn't make a snow woman.

At 8:15, I made a snow woman.

At 8:17, the nanny of the neighborhood complained about the snow woman's voluptuous behest.

At 8:20, the gay couple living nearby grumbled that it could of been two snowmen instead.

At 8:25, the vegans at No. 12 complained about the carrot nose, since veggies are food and not to decorate figures.

At 8:28, I am being called a racist because the snow couple are white.

At 8:31, the Muslim gent across the road wants the snow woman to wear a headscarf.

At 8:40, someone calls the cops, who show up to see what's going on.

At 8:42, I'm told the broomstick of the snowman needs to be removed because it could be used as a deadly weapon. Things get worse after I mutter, “Yeah, if it's up your rear end.”

At 8:52, my phone is seized and throughly checked while I am being blindfolded and flown to the police station in a helicopter.

At 9:00, I'm on the news as a suspected terrorist bent on stirring trouble during this difficult weather.

At 9:10, I am asked if I have any accomplices.

At 9:29, a little-known jihadist group has claimed it was their plot.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6193994
03/20/18 07:42 PM
03/20/18 07:42 PM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,029
PA
P
PSB1011 Offline
trapper
PSB1011  Offline
trapper
P

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,029
PA
Trained in America,by Americans,and they then flew planes into 2 tall buildings in NY.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6194002
03/20/18 07:50 PM
03/20/18 07:50 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 776
MN, USA
star flakes Offline
trapper
star flakes  Offline
trapper

Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 776
MN, USA
I noticed that those pro and con concerning Muslims have not mentioned any real contact with them. One of my most memorable contacts took place in a major metropolitan area, where my fiance and I at the time were moving out of. There was not any real source for mutton in the markets, and our former store closed, so we stopped into an Iraqi Halal butcher shop.
I had on my United State military jacket as it was cold and what we entered into was a Mideast gathering where people were gathered there not to purchase anything, but to gather.
If looks could kill, I would have been dead 20 times over as the room went silent. Remember these were people who were saved from Saddam by Americans, had been let into America by George HW Bush, and there was zero appreciation or affinity.
The 20 something boy who was running the cash register did a good cover of a smiling banter, but the hatred in that store was immense.
Islam is a closed community. It has zero interest in becoming assimilated and it's entire experience is rule by brute force. It is why these Muslim groups gravitate as Somali's to Minneapolis or to the Islamic enclaves across Europe. All of this immigration is funded by Muslim oil funding or is joined with the Bush families federal funding of groups like Lutheran Social Services as it is part of this quid pro quo which originated when the Americans signed contracts with the House of Saud for that cheap oil. What is lost on all in this discussion is Islam is two religions in Shia and Sunni and they hate each other. It is in their interests to place large numbers of their sects into western nations in the Sunni, to influence support for the Sunni, as Iran which is Shia, has benefactors in Russia and China. It should be evident in the friction which is being generated by these two groups and who is pitted against each other then are the Americans with the Russians and Chicoms.
None of this is being helped by the latest Theresa May fake news about Russia attacking a traitor in England which moves the United States closer to conflict again in another war which no one wants, as was the case in both world wars.
There are many forces and groups manipulating the United States for their agendas. Everyone can praise the Constitution or defend a religious group, but the majority of these groups have an agenda to get the American people fighting for their cause. That is the reality which is the prime focus as America has been fighting wars not in her interest and those groups which are being imported are not interested in following George Washington's mandate of [i][/i]no foreign entanglements.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6194017
03/20/18 08:11 PM
03/20/18 08:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 45,261
james bay frontierOnt.
B
Boco Offline
trapper
Boco  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 45,261
james bay frontierOnt.
I think the Russians have hacked T-man.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6194243
03/20/18 11:13 PM
03/20/18 11:13 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,300
minnesota
G
goldy Offline
trapper
goldy  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,300
minnesota
I was at a meeting tonight where one of the speakers was well educated on the Muslims and sharia law. What I got out of it is the Muslims are generally well organized and definitely have a plan. The koran lays a lot of it out. Europe is a prime example. Their main objective is to dominate and take over countries. They could not care less about our constitution. They first come in peacefully, but as soon as they can get away with it, they turn violent. And we are paying for them to come here and local governments have little say about it. Anybody who thinks they will be peaceful here is a fool. Just wait until they have power. It's happened everywhere they have gone.


"They that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" Ben Franklin talking about guns
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6194250
03/20/18 11:24 PM
03/20/18 11:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 17,692
Central Oregon
AntiGov Offline
trapper
AntiGov  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 17,692
Central Oregon
Most have their head in the sand ............Americans that is


Report a post club - Non member


Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Boco] #6194293
03/21/18 12:38 AM
03/21/18 12:38 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
J
James Offline
"Minka"
James  Offline
"Minka"
J

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
Originally Posted By: Boco
I think the Russians have hacked T-man.


Whoever they are, they are bereft of reason.

Jim


Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: James] #6194671
03/21/18 11:31 AM
03/21/18 11:31 AM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,300
minnesota
G
goldy Offline
trapper
goldy  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,300
minnesota
Originally Posted By: James
Originally Posted By: Boco
I think the Russians have hacked T-man.


Whoever they are, they are bereft of reason.

Jim
I knew it! You ARE Russian! grin So you actually believe the Muslims want to come here and just coexist peacefully with Christians, or any other non-Muslim American for that matter? Wow. Just wow.

Last edited by goldy; 03/21/18 11:35 AM.

"They that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" Ben Franklin talking about guns
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6194718
03/21/18 12:13 PM
03/21/18 12:13 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Well.... >40% of Russians are Muslim.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: KeithC] #6194749
03/21/18 12:31 PM
03/21/18 12:31 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,577
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
T
Trapper7 Offline
trapper
Trapper7  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,577
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
Originally Posted By: KeithC
The US has two very distinct types of Muslim immigrants.

First there are the well educated, hard working, Muslims, who left there countries for more freedom and better economic opportunities. They paid their own way here. Many are doctors, scientists and engineers. The ones in this group are mostly agnostic or not very strong believers. They will probably fully assimilate into American culture.

The second type of Muslim immigrants, were brought over by the US government and groups like Catholic and Lutherans Social Services. They are the unwanted people from many of the worst countries on Earth. They are often uneducated, often fanatically religious and of a vastly different mindset than most Americans. They experienced barbaric acts and when pushed, or even on a whim, commit barbaric acts. We should not allow any more of these people into the US.

Keith


Keith, you are right in everything you've said. I might add that Catholic Charities and Lutheran Social Services didn't just bring them over here out of the goodness of their hearts. They were well paid by the federal government; the more they brought over here, the more they were paid.

These Muslims came over here because of the deplorable conditions and persecution they had to endure in their own countries. Now, that they are over here, instead of assimilating and becoming Americans, many of them want to change America by instilling their own ideologies and make it more like the country they came from. crazy


I don't care how nice the hand soap smells, you should never walk out of the restroom sniffing your fingers.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: KeithC] #6194751
03/21/18 12:32 PM
03/21/18 12:32 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,577
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
T
Trapper7 Offline
trapper
Trapper7  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,577
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
Originally Posted By: KeithC
Tweed is correct in that around a 1000 years ago the Muslim countries were fairly advanced compared to much of the rest of the World. Their religion, customs and governments prevented them from progressing further and continues to hold back Muslim people in most Muslim countries.

Islam is the religion of stagnation, not peace.

Keith


It's more political, than a religion.


I don't care how nice the hand soap smells, you should never walk out of the restroom sniffing your fingers.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Kart29] #6194771
03/21/18 12:56 PM
03/21/18 12:56 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,577
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
T
Trapper7 Offline
trapper
Trapper7  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,577
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
Originally Posted By: Kart29
Originally Posted By: gray dog

In the last 100 years how many Christian countries have the Muslims had an occupying military force in. Now same question only switch the two. They were fine being camel jockies until non-Muslim countries wanted their resources and to spread their ideology.

You harvest what you sow.

We need to stop allowing immigration for any reason without vetting and the applicant needs to cover the cost. No political asylum for anyone.


What do you mean by a "Christian country"? Name one, please and explain the criteria for qualifying as a "Christian country". There's sizable numbers of Christians in Egypt, Iraq, Tibet, Turkey, Pakistan, China... Those countries have not had an occupying army from a western country in the past 100 years. Yet look at how Christians are treated in those countries. Then compare how Muslims are treated in Western countries shaped by Christian ideology

What Muslim countries have had an occupying military force in them? Seems like we got out of Afghanistan and Iraq and tried to turn those countries over to their own self-governance ASAP. I think the British bailed out of the middle east during or shortly after WWI. And then look at what happened after the Arab Revolt follow the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.

To blame the problems in the middle east on the West buying their oil and trying to convert them to Christianity or other western ideology seems patently ridiculous to me.


Good post, Kart.

Bill Maher who hates Christians admitted on his show one night when comparing Christians to Muslims, that the one big difference is Christians won't kill you if you don't convert to their religion. Muslims aren't beheaded in this country because of their religion, but Christians are beheaded in the middle east because they aren't Muslim.

Muslims came to this country to escape deplorable conditions and persecution in their own countries. Now that they are here, instead of assimilating and becoming Americans, they want to impose their own ideologies in America so they can change America to be more like the country they just came from! crazy


I don't care how nice the hand soap smells, you should never walk out of the restroom sniffing your fingers.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Trapper7] #6194775
03/21/18 01:07 PM
03/21/18 01:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Marty Offline
trapper
Marty  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Originally Posted By: Trapper7
Muslims came to this country to escape deplorable conditions and persecution in their own countries. Now that they are here, instead of assimilating and becoming Americans, they want to impose their own ideologies in America so they can change America to be more like the country they just came from! crazy


Much like American progressives that move to another state......must be why they like muzzies so much, lots in common.


E
'Honey Badger Militia'
Sleep, the anti woke adote.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Tweed] #6194850
03/21/18 02:26 PM
03/21/18 02:26 PM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
B
Badgerman50 Offline
trapper
Badgerman50  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
Originally Posted By: Tweed
Well.... >40% of Russians are Muslim.


I don’t know where you’re getting your data, or including former satellite countries but Russia is only about 6% Muslim- which is 6% too much.


Badgerman
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Badgerman50] #6194853
03/21/18 02:33 PM
03/21/18 02:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,300
minnesota
G
goldy Offline
trapper
goldy  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,300
minnesota
Originally Posted By: Badgerman50
Originally Posted By: Tweed
Well.... >40% of Russians are Muslim.


I don’t know where you’re getting your data, or including former satellite countries but Russia is only about 6% Muslim- which is 6% too much.
There's a law in Russia now that prohibits anybody from spreading religion. My pastor just got back from there, he got in trouble for preaching the gospel. The church that asked him to come didn't have the right paper work filled out for him. It's all straightened out now for my pastor, all charges and fines were dropped, but the reason the law was implemented was to keep the spread of the Muslim religion from spreading in Russia.


"They that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" Ben Franklin talking about guns
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6194868
03/21/18 02:56 PM
03/21/18 02:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,324
Hancock Co., Indiana
Kart29 Offline
trapper
Kart29  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,324
Hancock Co., Indiana
I know a missionary in Greece who is surrounded by immigrants from Syria, Iraq, and other Mulsim majority countries. He says those expatriates are Muslim in name and heritage only and aren't very religious at all. He says they these immigrants that have left their home country are generally pretty fed up with all things Islam and the problems associated with it. He says they are searching for and eager to adopt a new culture and way of life. He says they are very open to new ideas and trying hard to assimilate into the Western ideals.

Of course, that's a generality. I'm sure there is likely more than a few Islamic zealots mixed in there as well. And there is plenty of evidence of the problems these mild-mannered Muslim immigrants are causing in France, Belgium, and Germany.

The point is... you can't assume all Muslims are the same. They are not. There's nothing to fear from the majority of them.

Still, taken on the whole, I dont' see any good reason for importing more of them into the U.S. Perhaps the whole world would be better off if the more reasonable people that immigrated out of these Middle Eastern nations would go back and rescue their home countries from the Islamic freaks that are stinking them all up.


What from Christ that soul can sever,
Bound by everlasting bands?
None shall take thee
From the Strength of Israel's hands.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Badgerman50] #6194870
03/21/18 02:58 PM
03/21/18 02:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: Badgerman50
Originally Posted By: Tweed
Well.... >40% of Russians are Muslim.


I don’t know where you’re getting your data, or including former satellite countries but Russia is only about 6% Muslim- which is 6% too much.


You're right, I was mistaken. I looked too quickly at the stats. Still...Russia probably has the most significant Muslim population for a "Euro-ish" country.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Kart29] #6194873
03/21/18 03:01 PM
03/21/18 03:01 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: Kart29
I know a missionary in Greece who is surrounded by immigrants from Syria, Iraq, and other Mulsim majority countries. He says those expatriates are Muslim in name and heritage only and aren't very religious at all. He says they these immigrants that have left their home country are generally pretty fed up with all things Islam and the problems associated with it. He says they are searching for and eager to adopt a new culture and way of life. He says they are very open to new ideas and trying hard to assimilate into the Western ideals.



I've found the same to be true here locally with our Iraq population. Their children try to pass as hispanic because they don't want to be grouped with the terrorists.

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6194875
03/21/18 03:07 PM
03/21/18 03:07 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 15,520
Champaign County, Ohio.
K
KeithC Offline
trapper
KeithC  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 15,520
Champaign County, Ohio.
Russia has been exporting their Muslim population to the US. Most of the Turkish people in my area, were born in Russia. They were not allowed to become Russian citizens, even though their parents and in some cases grandparents were born in Russia too.

The couple dozen Muslim Turks I have met, who came from Russia, mostly fit in well. I think if their population stays small, in a generation or two, they won't seem different from any other Americans. They work hard and are not very religious. One of them told me that everyone in the World would move to the US if they could. He told me that if you wanted to work here and get rich, you could. He said that in Russia it was very hard to get permission to work and he could only work certain jobs.

I can not say the same about the Somalis I have met.

Keith

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6194963
03/21/18 04:55 PM
03/21/18 04:55 PM
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 3,067
Wyoming
C
cmcf Offline
trapper
cmcf  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 3,067
Wyoming
If someone pulled the fangs on ninety rattle snakes and left ten with their fangs in tact, then dumped all 100 in a tub, shook them all up and blindfolded you then told you to use your hands and take five of the snakes out of the tub.
WOULD YOU DO IT? I am not comparing Muslims to snakes, I'm only saying you don't know what you are dealing with until you find out one way or the other.
According to the exiled Muslim people that have spoken out about the violence condoned in the Quran under penalty of death for heresy, have been of the opinion that a good Muslim and a peaceful Muslim are mutually exclusive. Have we forgotten already the MUSLIM teenage girl that was SHOT IN THE FACE BECAUSE SHE WAS GOING TO SCHOOL?


“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined” B. Disraeli

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6194972
03/21/18 05:11 PM
03/21/18 05:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Marty Offline
trapper
Marty  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Russia has 20% muslim population or more...no way 6%.


E
'Honey Badger Militia'
Sleep, the anti woke adote.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6195013
03/21/18 05:45 PM
03/21/18 05:45 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,110
Three Lakes,WI 72
C
corky Offline
trapper
corky  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,110
Three Lakes,WI 72

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6195020
03/21/18 05:50 PM
03/21/18 05:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Marty Offline
trapper
Marty  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Pew had it at over 12% in 2011. Wiki is not always correct and the Russian State may not give correct info.


E
'Honey Badger Militia'
Sleep, the anti woke adote.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6195026
03/21/18 05:53 PM
03/21/18 05:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Marty Offline
trapper
Marty  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
2015.

When Moscow's Muslims gathered at the city's main mosque Wednesday to mark Eid el-Fitr, the end of the holy month of Ramadan, tens of thousands of worshippers were forced to take their prayer mats into the street. Lines of police officers stood amid the worshippers, who also had to pass through a security check before they could pray.

As a symbol it is a powerful illustration of two things: firstly, the growing strength of Moscow's Muslim community; but secondly, the official insecurity and to some extent, hostility toward it.

Islam has always been the second biggest religion in Russia, but it had never been as visible in Moscow as it is now. Moscow has the largest Muslim population in Europe, with estimates suggesting that between 1.5 and 2 million of the Russian capital's population are of the faith. Despite this, Moscow has only six Mosques, hence the necessity for worshippers to congregate in the street.

Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin, a frequent critic of Muslim immigrants, said in the past that the "excessive" number of Muslim newcomers to Moscow was "harmful" and that no new building permits for mosques would be granted.


E
'Honey Badger Militia'
Sleep, the anti woke adote.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Marty] #6195109
03/21/18 07:24 PM
03/21/18 07:24 PM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
B
Badgerman50 Offline
trapper
Badgerman50  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
Originally Posted By: Marty
Russia has 20% muslim population or more...no way 6%.


Way. 6% is a lot. If you have a population of 110 million, that’s 6.6 million rug pilots.


Badgerman
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6195115
03/21/18 07:34 PM
03/21/18 07:34 PM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
B
Badgerman50 Offline
trapper
Badgerman50  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
If Russia was 20% diaper head, there’d have been a civil war by now.


Badgerman
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6195185
03/21/18 08:35 PM
03/21/18 08:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 17,692
Central Oregon
AntiGov Offline
trapper
AntiGov  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 17,692
Central Oregon
The " peaceful " Muslims lay low and blend in until " called upon " when the shtf.


Report a post club - Non member


Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6195229
03/21/18 09:03 PM
03/21/18 09:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 21,536
Sandhills Nebraska
G
Gary Benson Online shocked
trapper
Gary Benson  Online Shocked
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 21,536
Sandhills Nebraska
One bad Muslim is too many. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Badgerman50] #6195339
03/21/18 10:37 PM
03/21/18 10:37 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: Badgerman50
If Russia was 20% diaper head, there’d have been a civil war by now.



You need to get out more...

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Badgerman50] #6195414
03/22/18 12:05 AM
03/22/18 12:05 AM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Marty Offline
trapper
Marty  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Originally Posted By: Badgerman50
If Russia was 20% diaper head, there’d have been a civil war by now.


You heard of Chechnya?


E
'Honey Badger Militia'
Sleep, the anti woke adote.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6195427
03/22/18 12:26 AM
03/22/18 12:26 AM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
B
Badgerman50 Offline
trapper
Badgerman50  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
I need to get out more? Huh?

I have heard of Chechnya. That’s my point exactly. A Muslim enclave in Russia. Barely a million people there and they went for it. They got squashed like bugs. Imagine 20 times that amount. Not only would they try, they’d likely do ok. One in five people in Russia being Muslim just isn’t the case.


Badgerman
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6195433
03/22/18 12:31 AM
03/22/18 12:31 AM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Marty Offline
trapper
Marty  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
I could meet ya in the middle between 6 and 20.....13.


E
'Honey Badger Militia'
Sleep, the anti woke adote.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6195447
03/22/18 12:49 AM
03/22/18 12:49 AM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
B
Badgerman50 Offline
trapper
Badgerman50  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,655
Meridian , ID
Ok funny guy wink. Whatever happens, I just hope to God we don’t end up like Europe. If we do, I really hope enough Americans have the stones to actually fight it. I wish that would happen now with the Somalians in MN. They need gone.


Badgerman
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Badgerman50] #6195453
03/22/18 12:57 AM
03/22/18 12:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Marty Offline
trapper
Marty  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 20,914
North East Kansas
Originally Posted By: Badgerman50
Ok funny guy wink. Whatever happens, I just hope to God we don’t end up like Europe. If we do, I really hope enough Americans have the stones to actually fight it. I wish that would happen now with the Somalians in MN. They need gone.


I was not joking...maybe 20 is high, I will give you that one. But I think 6 is low.

Americans have been being programed to no fight.....for a while now. Obama even castrated the military. Islam is a tide and they say worldwide domination thru numbers by 2070.

Americans look at things in a time frame of minutes for gratification but the islamists look at in in a timeframe of generations.


E
'Honey Badger Militia'
Sleep, the anti woke adote.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6195551
03/22/18 07:31 AM
03/22/18 07:31 AM
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 6,190
Kansas
Pawnee Offline
trapper
Pawnee  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 6,190
Kansas
Read these two books by Mark Steyn “America Alone” & “Lights Out” then get back with me. Some of you guys scare the heck out of me!


Everything the left touches it destroys
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6195915
03/22/18 02:06 PM
03/22/18 02:06 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,577
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
T
Trapper7 Offline
trapper
Trapper7  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,577
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
American Pastor Brunson has been recently charged with Christianization in Turkey. The indictment claims the Pastor has been living out his Christian faith through humanitarian aid, education, and training making him guilty of terrorism. If convicted, he faces 35 years in a Turkish prison, essentially a life sentence for the 50 year old pastor.

Pastor Andrew served the people of Turkey as a Christian pastor for 23 years without issue.

Can anybody recall a time a Muslim was put in prison or killed in America for their faith? Muslims are treated far differently in this country than Christians are treated in the middle east. Just another example of Sharia Law and its intolerance toward any other faith. And, it's coming to America, don't be fooled by those who minimize it.

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, be to be dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America and Islam the only accepted religion on earth." Omar Ahmand, co-founder of CAIR. Can you imagine what would happen to a Christian if they made that boast? The main stream media would be all over them. But, the MSM chooses to conveniently disregard Ahmand's statement. You only get half the news from them; the half that fits their twisted agenda.


I don't care how nice the hand soap smells, you should never walk out of the restroom sniffing your fingers.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Trapper7] #6195926
03/22/18 02:13 PM
03/22/18 02:13 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: Trapper7
Muslims are treated far differently in this country than Christians are treated in the middle east.


So what?

Should we do on to others as others do on to us or do on to others as we would have others do on to us?

Pretty much....who's standards to you prefer- theirs or ours?

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6195957
03/22/18 02:29 PM
03/22/18 02:29 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 15,520
Champaign County, Ohio.
K
KeithC Offline
trapper
KeithC  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 15,520
Champaign County, Ohio.
My take from this thread, is that no one here, including James and the other liberals, thinks we should take in the lowest class of Muslim immigrants. It is rare that so many of us agree this much. How do we motivate the United States government to make this so?

Keith

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Tweed] #6195967
03/22/18 02:37 PM
03/22/18 02:37 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,577
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
T
Trapper7 Offline
trapper
Trapper7  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,577
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
Originally Posted By: Tweed
Originally Posted By: Trapper7
Muslims are treated far differently in this country than Christians are treated in the middle east.


So what?

Should we do on to others as others do on to us or do on to others as we would have others do on to us?

Pretty much....who's standards to you prefer- theirs or ours?


I'm just speaking out to those who keep maintaining that Christians are just as bad as Muslims. I prefer our standards to theirs, obviously. But, it's coming here like it has in England. Some are too dumb to see it.


I don't care how nice the hand soap smells, you should never walk out of the restroom sniffing your fingers.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: Tweed] #6196001
03/22/18 03:08 PM
03/22/18 03:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 19,926
SEPA
L
Lugnut Offline
trapper
Lugnut  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 19,926
SEPA
Originally Posted By: Tweed
Originally Posted By: Trapper7
Muslims are treated far differently in this country than Christians are treated in the middle east.


So what?

Should we do on to others as others do on to us or do on to others as we would have others do on to us?

Pretty much....who's standards to you prefer- theirs or ours?


"Turn the other cheek" doesn't really apply when one side is beheading, hanging, burning alive and coming up with many other uniquely horrific methods of torturing and killing simply because the other side belongs to the other side.


Eh...wot?

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6196013
03/22/18 03:23 PM
03/22/18 03:23 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,577
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
T
Trapper7 Offline
trapper
Trapper7  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,577
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
People with the attitude we should turn the other cheek, haven't taken the time to understand how these people think.

We need to understand that not all Muslims are like this. We are only talking about the ones who have no intention of assimilating and becoming Americans. But, instead want to change America.


I don't care how nice the hand soap smells, you should never walk out of the restroom sniffing your fingers.
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: KeithC] #6196080
03/22/18 04:40 PM
03/22/18 04:40 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,381
Perham Minnesota 54
R
racerboy108 Offline
trapper
racerboy108  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,381
Perham Minnesota 54
Originally Posted By: KeithC
My take from this thread, is that no one here, including James and the other liberals, thinks we should take in the lowest class of Muslim immigrants. It is rare that so many of us agree this much. How do we motivate the United States government to make this so?

Keith


They are motivated to Bri g them over for control. They want votes.

Follow the money and you will have your answer on why they won't listen to us

Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6196725
03/23/18 10:29 AM
03/23/18 10:29 AM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 5,895
michigan,USA
S
seniortrap Offline OP
trapper
seniortrap  Offline OP
trapper
S

Joined: May 2012
Posts: 5,895
michigan,USA
The art of copy was well developed by the Japanese as testament to what we see today.

By taking it further than the US auto industry wanted to, they are beating us at our own game.

The retaining of people being kept in the dark (control) is what the Democratic Party is doing/done!

Last edited by seniortrap; 03/23/18 10:30 AM.

Vietnam--1967 46th. Const./Combat Engineers

"Chaotic action is preferable to orderly inaction."
"After the first shot, all plans go out the window!"
Re: Good Bye England! [Re: seniortrap] #6196869
03/23/18 01:01 PM
03/23/18 01:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 199
NH
T
thebeaverguy Offline
trapper
thebeaverguy  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 199
NH
A Marine and Iraq veteran probably answered best when I asked him about the people of Iraq and what the country was like. His observations are from being there. He said that the Iraqis more or less hated the Americans who had delivered them from Saddam, if you left a US base you were armed and didn't go alone. When I asked about so-called moderate muslims he put it this way: A radical muslim wants to chop your head off; a moderate muslim wants a radical muslim to chop your head off.

Page 1 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread