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Re: How high can castor go? [Re: Bogmaster] #6195780
03/22/18 11:29 AM
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Lots of companies already produce synthetic castoreum but it is more expensive than the real thing. Discussion in earlier posts in this thread indicated that the castor market is not far from the price point where synthetic would become a viable alternative to natural castoreum.

I would be surprised if some of the bigger lure manufacturers are not already experimenting with synthetic castoreum.


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Re: How high can castor go? [Re: QuietButDeadly] #6195976
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Originally Posted By: QuietButDeadly
Lots of companies already produce synthetic castoreum but it is more expensive than the real thing. Discussion in earlier posts in this thread indicated that the castor market is not far from the price point where synthetic would become a viable alternative to natural castoreum.

I would be surprised if some of the bigger lure manufacturers are not already experimenting with synthetic castoreum.


Kind of like synthetic oil being more expensive than the real thing.


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Re: How high can castor go? [Re: Bogmaster] #6196111
03/22/18 05:26 PM
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But synthetic oil has better lubricating qualities than the real thing. Not sure the synthetic castor smells more like a beaver than the real thing.


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Re: How high can castor go? [Re: Bogmaster] #6196115
03/22/18 05:35 PM
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If synthetic is like everything else that is trying to recreate animal scents, any luremaker using synthetic castor probably will have to have a new lure line.

Re: How high can castor go? [Re: SNIPERBBB] #6196140
03/22/18 06:18 PM
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So there is already an alternative supply, so now are niche is not that we have a valuable product no one else has it is that we are the low cost provider, but we are natural!! Oh boy that should be worth more, but it is not.

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Re: How high can castor go? [Re: Bogmaster] #6196300
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The main market for castoreum is not trapping lure,lol.


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Re: How high can castor go? [Re: Bogmaster] #6196344
03/22/18 09:37 PM
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Boco beat me to it. Our N. American use of castor (for lures) is minuscule compared to the main market which is overseas.


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Re: How high can castor go? [Re: Bogmaster] #6196430
03/22/18 11:02 PM
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We are familiar with the use in lures but the amount of castor used in the perfume industry and as a food additive would probably surprise all of us. Same with skunk essence in the perfume industry.


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Re: How high can castor go? [Re: Bogmaster] #6196839
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BTW, Don mentioned getting $90/lb for castor back when it boomed (late 80's early 90's?). I remember that I sent off 25 to 35 lbs to Dominion Soudack somewhere in that time frame and got an advance of $100/lb. (US dollars). If I remember right it was moving at around $130/lb. But then it crashed and went down to way low prices and shortly after that Dominion Soudack ceased to exist. (Not sure if I caused that from my advance or not)!

Anybody remember when Dominion Soudack went under? Boco?

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Re: How high can castor go? [Re: Bogmaster] #6196841
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In October 1978, Hudson’s Bay Company acquired the Dominion/Soudack Fur Auction Sales of Winnipeg and its subsidiary, Edmonton Fur Auction Sales. The company contributed Canada’s largest collection of wild fur to the Hudson’s Bay Company offerings.

Re: How high can castor go? [Re: Bogmaster] #6196844
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Well i have large supply in the freezer so find me the best price!!

Re: How high can castor go? [Re: SNIPERBBB] #6196889
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Originally Posted By: SNIPERBBB
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In October 1978, Hudson’s Bay Company acquired the Dominion/Soudack Fur Auction Sales of Winnipeg and its subsidiary, Edmonton Fur Auction Sales. The company contributed Canada’s largest collection of wild fur to the Hudson’s Bay Company offerings.

But they still kept doing business as D. S. didn't they? The castor boom was well after that date. Of that I am certain!


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Re: How high can castor go? [Re: Bogmaster] #6196895
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Might of died when hbc went belly up to become nafa

Re: How high can castor go? [Re: Bogmaster] #6196922
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Yeah, that is the right time frame. When did that occur?


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Re: How high can castor go? [Re: Bogmaster] #6196938
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87 they sold off a lot of businesses and some more in 89 and 92 was when it became nafa

Re: How high can castor go? [Re: Bogmaster] #6196979
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Yeah, that sounds about right.


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Re: How high can castor go? [Re: beaverpeeler] #6212009
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Castor Prices Sucked At The Mannsville, N.Y. Fur Auction Yesterday. frown

Best Any Buyer Offered Was $43.00 A Pound And That Bid Was Rejected by The Trapper.

Other Castor Lots Only Made It Into the High 30's And ALL Were NO SALED !! shocked

What's Currently Happening With Castor Prices Now In Other Northern States ?

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Re: How high can castor go? [Re: Bogmaster] #6212014
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I sent mine to Mr Don Wolf last week.

Re: How high can castor go? [Re: robert.d12] #6212230
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Originally Posted By: robert.d12
The antis' view on trapping won't be very good if people start trapping beaver just for castor.



Ummm, yeah . It's not liable to change if we were donating the meat to starving families.


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