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HB 105 Buffer Zone #6195936
03/22/18 02:21 PM
03/22/18 02:21 PM
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fairbanks,ak.
isnarewolves Offline OP
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Friday at 3:30 in Senate Resources will be a hearing on HB 105 restricting the taking of wolves.
http://akleg.gov/index.php?tab2=type%3DA...chamber%3D#tab2

It would be nice to have letters not supporting this and even some oral testimony. Call in number for the hearing is 844-586-9085.

Some talking points. 1. Subsistence users/uses have the highest protection. Both in the constitution and by law 2. Wildlife is managed on a sustain yield and there is no biological concern with wolves in this area and have a harvestable surplus. 3. Wolves being taken in this area has not effect park visitation. Visitation to the park has only increased the last decade, to record numbers. 4. Sight ability of wolves in the park is affect to whereas the location of the denning sight is, in relation to where the road is. 5. Federally qualified subsistence users will still be allowed to trap on federal lands with in the area.


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Re: HB 105 Buffer Zone [Re: isnarewolves] #6196027
03/22/18 03:38 PM
03/22/18 03:38 PM
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just got this e-mail back from Senator Giessel.

Sen. Cathy Giessel <Sen.Cathy.Giessel@akleg.gov>
To:
Al Barrette

Mar 22 at 11:32 AM

Yes, I got this on the email you previously sent.

If there are others who oppose the bill, please have them send emails, Al.

I have literally hundreds of support emails…and your one opposition email.

cg


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Re: HB 105 Buffer Zone [Re: isnarewolves] #6196051
03/22/18 04:04 PM
03/22/18 04:04 PM
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So help me understand this do I don't feel like an idiot when I email my senator, this bill wants to make a bunch of areas around Denali Park super regulated on the traps you can use for trapping, correct?

Which would have no effect except to make trappers more hesitant to trap there, allowing the wolf population to grow, which will eventually need to be managed, and because government is in control instead of opening it back up they will hire people to take care of the wolf population.


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John Wayne
Re: HB 105 Buffer Zone [Re: isnarewolves] #6196092
03/22/18 04:54 PM
03/22/18 04:54 PM
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Sponsor Statement
"Denali Wolf Buffer Zone"


To protect wolves for future Alaskans and visitors, HB 105 would prohibit wolf hunting and trapping in two areas adjacent to Denali National Park & Preserve: The Wolf Townships (AKA The Stampede Trail) and the Nenana Canyon.

Visitors consistently tell Park managers that they want to see wild wolves, but few people get to see the iconic predators in Denali these days. Wolf sightings have declined dramatically.

For many years, Denali National Park had been known as one of the best places in the world to view wild wolves—and this pumped money into Alaska’s economy. In 2016, Denali hosted 599,822 visitors who spent approximately $604,800.

The Board of Game established a buffer zone on the park’s eastern boundary in 2000, but they eliminated that buffer in 2010. In 2014, less than 6% of park visitors were able to see wolves, a decrease from 45% from 2010. Wolf population in DNP&P has declined from 116 in spring 2006 to 50 in spring 2014.

House Bill 105 helps to correct these trends. This entire state benefits from Denali National Park & Preserve, our most important tourism asset. Please join me in assuring that Alaskans and visitors for generations to come can be moved by seeing wild wolves there.

[signed]
REPRESENTATIVE ANDREW JOSEPHSON


The sponsor's statement; hope you're wearing tall boot!

"The Wolf Township"….huh??

It's a flat out lie to blame this on trapping near the eastern park boundary:

Wolf population in DNP&P has declined from 116 in spring 2006 to 50 in spring 2014.


But lying is one thing the anti's are so very prone to do!

Last edited by drasselt; 03/22/18 04:56 PM.

you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: HB 105 Buffer Zone [Re: Plum Billy] #6196105
03/22/18 05:07 PM
03/22/18 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: Plum Billy
So help me understand this do I don't feel like an idiot when I email my senator, this bill wants to make a bunch of areas around Denali Park super regulated on the traps you can use for trapping, correct?

Which would have no effect except to make trappers more hesitant to trap there, allowing the wolf population to grow, which will eventually need to be managed, and because government is in control instead of opening it back up they will hire people to take care of the wolf population.

No this bill would not allow the harvest of wolves with in that area. no hunting or trapping of wolves. plus trap restriction. Further it would not allow the ADF&G to take wolves that have lice. There is a out break of lousies wolves in Minto Flats. it is well documented that wolves disperse from Denali to Minto and vis versa. Then there is the whole subsistence issue.


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Re: HB 105 Buffer Zone [Re: isnarewolves] #6196143
03/22/18 06:21 PM
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"No hunting or trapping of wolves. plus trap restriction."
So trap restriction for wolves across all the state, plus no hunting or trapping of wolves in those areas?


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John Wayne
Re: HB 105 Buffer Zone [Re: isnarewolves] #6196176
03/22/18 07:09 PM
03/22/18 07:09 PM
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This bill only pertains to an area outside the park. Most notably call the "buffer zone". the bill is if passed would not allow anyone to trap or hunt a wolf in the area described in the bill. you would not be able to use snares with greater than 3/32" or leg hold traps with jaw spreads greater than 5".
The bill also states: "(b) Nothing in this section may be construed to prevent the department from
19 taking, or authorizing the taking of, wolves that present a danger to the health or safety
20 of local residents."
This language if it were passed, would not allow ADF&G to take wolves that have been infected with dog lice, to help stop the spread of this parasite. Nor could they take wolves if in the future there needed to be a predator control project. Moose and caribou in that area have a positive finding for I.M.


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Re: HB 105 Buffer Zone [Re: isnarewolves] #6200023
03/26/18 12:16 PM
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HB 105 had it's hearing. the Chair of the committee Senator Cathy Giesel held the bill in committee. this should put an end to this ill-willed bill. A thanks should go out to the ATA el-presidentate for his testimony.


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Re: HB 105 Buffer Zone [Re: isnarewolves] #6200028
03/26/18 12:25 PM
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I am all for wild wolves. I am also all for wild moose, wild elk, wild deer, and other wild animals. Humans are no different than wolves and other predators. We also have a role to play in the ecosystem. And I will bet that Denali visitors really like seeing moose, too, which will be far fewer in number, if wolves are not trapped.

Re: HB 105 Buffer Zone [Re: isnarewolves] #6200037
03/26/18 12:39 PM
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Moose density INSIDE the park is lower than it is OUTSIDE the park where hunting is allowed.


Many thanks to el-Presidente !


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Re: HB 105 Buffer Zone [Re: isnarewolves] #6200517
03/26/18 11:00 PM
03/26/18 11:00 PM
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Any time emotion trumps scientific wildlife management, everyone and everything suffers. America's high material success has a down side. It has created a lot of idle time that most people would otherwise spend finding food or shelter. With that idle time, people's minds wander to silly and esoteric things, like wouldn't those wolves enjoy playing Legos with me, more than being trapped by some mean man? And why do people want to eat meat, any how? They should only eat tree bark and free range raisins, just like me, because I am the arbiter of all truth. And so on. When my grandfather died, I pulled an old shovel out of the garage and took it home. My dad made me return it because my uncle wanted it, as it was my Pop Pop's Victory Garden shovel he used during World War 2. It was symbolic of a time when Americans had to cinch down their belts, sacrifice, and put everything extra they had into supporting the anti-fascism war in Europe and Asia. Today's Americans seem to put everything extra they have into trying to control their fellow citizens and damage their lives.
Someone needs to make wolf burgers and sell them cheap on the internet. Just because

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Re: HB 105 Buffer Zone [Re: isnarewolves] #6200588
03/27/18 01:37 AM
03/27/18 01:37 AM
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Thank you Mr. ZARNKE for your work and efforts.

Palltheway, I had some wolf and beaver stew recently, even shared it at a potluck....it was a hit.

Re: HB 105 Buffer Zone [Re: isnarewolves] #6208384
04/04/18 08:49 PM
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I see www.nationalparktraveler.org has new. unfavorable article about this on their website?? Made a big stink about someone shooting 10 wolves with an AR just outside Denali. Left comment saying that leaves 60,000 left in north america yet! Probably won't post it.


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Re: HB 105 Buffer Zone [Re: GROUSEWIT] #6208890
04/05/18 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: GROUSEWIT
I see www.nationalparktraveler.org has new. unfavorable article about this on their website?? Made a big stink about someone shooting 10 wolves with an AR just outside Denali. Left comment saying that leaves 60,000 left in north america yet! Probably won't post it.


The animal rights/anti-trapping folks circulating those pictures forgot (inadvertently I'm sure...) a few insignificant details about the photo of the guy with 10 wolves harvested that they were circulating as evidence of the "slaughter of park [sic] wolves...

The wolves were all legally taken and subsequently sealed at ADFG. They were taken nearly 100 miles away from the park border. I suppose the term "just outside Denali" means different things to different idiots.

Pete

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