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Re: Now who will buy fur?
[Re: bblwi]
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03/24/18 05:21 AM
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Tweed
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The 4-5 million mink produced in the USA could all be removed from the market and Europe and China could produce enough. The main reason our fur is important is we have the highest quality ranch mink here. What matters most is what type of fur will or does the world want, lower cost average type fur or higher quality? Capitalism will probably find a way to move almost any product through routes that will avoid or limit the tariffs. It has been going on all along and the Chinese and smuggling ranch fur through Hong Kong was just one of the latest examples from just a fur aspect. Tariffs in many ways create a semi- legal black market system. Will our companies and importers be able to find the ways to import without those duties?
Bryce Mongolia
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Re: Now who will buy fur?
[Re: Catpincher]
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03/24/18 09:02 AM
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Todd R
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Don't order off Amazon anymore, tried it once ordered a 400 page book and received a 367 page knockoff. Took my lump and will never order another product from them ever. What was the Dow again when President Trump took office? Way,way way higher than when Obama took office. Trump has not been there long enough to have had an effect, time will tell...
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Re: Now who will buy fur?
[Re: alaska viking]
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03/24/18 10:14 AM
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Gary Benson
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I don't claim to understand the stock market, but I'd guess there's enough heavy hitters in there that the DOW is run similar to Congress, with the good ol boys scratching each others backs.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Now who will buy fur?
[Re: Catpincher]
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03/24/18 10:32 AM
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Don't order off Amazon anymore, tried it once ordered a 400 page book and received a 367 page knockoff. Took my lump and will never order another product from them ever. What was the Dow again when President Trump took office? Did you buy that from Amazon, or did you buy that from a third-party seller on Amazon?
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Re: Now who will buy fur?
[Re: alaska viking]
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03/24/18 10:38 AM
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That is not the only reason stocks dumped. It was the 1.3 trill spending bill that was signed friday along with rising interest rates. That had more to do with it than tariff's.
Last edited by muddyriverdogz; 03/24/18 10:38 AM.
You only live once, so get over it!
Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
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Re: Now who will buy fur?
[Re: Todd R]
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03/24/18 10:38 AM
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Don't order off Amazon anymore, tried it once ordered a 400 page book and received a 367 page knockoff. Took my lump and will never order another product from them ever. What was the Dow again when President Trump took office? Way,way way higher than when Obama took office. Trump has not been there long enough to have had an effect, time will tell... So then this recent drop of the market has nothing to do with the tariffs? Hate to tell ya, but the market jumps even at the talk of something.
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Re: Now who will buy fur?
[Re: alaska viking]
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03/24/18 10:40 AM
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muddyriverdogz
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It had more to do with rising interest rates and the 1.3 trill spending bill. The market new tariff's were coming.
They don't want to talk about that though. That would point the finger at Congress and the Federal Reserve monitary policies.
Last edited by muddyriverdogz; 03/24/18 10:43 AM.
You only live once, so get over it!
Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
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Re: Now who will buy fur?
[Re: alaska viking]
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03/24/18 10:49 AM
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Wall Street was expecting a 1/4 point rate hike. The question was, 3 hikes this year, or 4? The growth in jobs, along with the steel and aluminum tarriffs, as well as inflationary concerns led to the sell-off in February.
Last edited by alaska viking; 03/24/18 10:52 AM.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: Now who will buy fur?
[Re: alaska viking]
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03/24/18 10:52 AM
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The budget, coupled with the possibility of a trade war of global proportions added fuel to the fire.
I fear we have not seen the worst, yet.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: Now who will buy fur?
[Re: alaska viking]
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03/24/18 10:55 AM
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muddyriverdogz
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The Fed in the past has said it was going to raise interest rates many times then backed out of it. They didn't back out this time. Watch the market fall everytime interest rates rise. The Tariff's when implemented will bring it down further.Retail sales has fell the past 3 month's. If prices rise further because of tariff's it will only get worse.
Also add in the 1.3 trill spending bill that was signed Friday by Trump who said he didn't want to sign it but did anyway(and the Repubs were screaming about Obama's spending). This rising debt coupled with rising interest rates is unsustainable witch the new Fed chairmen admitted while being questioned by Congress just a couple weeks ago.
Last edited by muddyriverdogz; 03/24/18 11:30 AM.
You only live once, so get over it!
Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
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Re: Now who will buy fur?
[Re: muddyriverdogz]
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03/24/18 01:46 PM
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The Fed in the past has said it was going to raise interest rates many times then backed out of it. They didn't back out this time. Watch the market fall everytime interest rates rise. The Tariff's when implemented will bring it down further.Retail sales has fell the past 3 month's. If prices rise further because of tariff's it will only get worse.
Also add in the 1.3 trill spending bill that was signed Friday by Trump who said he didn't want to sign it but did anyway(and the Repubs were screaming about Obama's spending). This rising debt coupled with rising interest rates is unsustainable witch the new Fed chairmen admitted while being questioned by Congress just a couple weeks ago. WRONG about the retail market . Americans spent more last quarter of the year than ever before. THE RETAIL SHOPS have lower sales because everyone is using the on-line ordering
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Re: Now who will buy fur?
[Re: jbyrd63]
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03/24/18 03:57 PM
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Hey just stop the whole nonsense they call the stock market. IT IS ALL ON PAPER.. Let them get real jobs . Tell china to blow us and everyone stop whining about what someone else is doing.. !!!!!!!! Yeah, that worthless paper your paycheck is written on, your fur check, your bank statement....It's all imaginary, until you convert it to paper money. Well, and ink, and Wall Street saying the government is good for it.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: Now who will buy fur?
[Re: jbyrd63]
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03/24/18 08:49 PM
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muddyriverdogz
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The Fed in the past has said it was going to raise interest rates many times then backed out of it. They didn't back out this time. Watch the market fall everytime interest rates rise. The Tariff's when implemented will bring it down further.Retail sales has fell the past 3 month's. If prices rise further because of tariff's it will only get worse.
Also add in the 1.3 trill spending bill that was signed Friday by Trump who said he didn't want to sign it but did anyway(and the Repubs were screaming about Obama's spending). This rising debt coupled with rising interest rates is unsustainable witch the new Fed chairmen admitted while being questioned by Congress just a couple weeks ago. WRONG about the retail market . Americans spent more last quarter of the year than ever before. THE RETAIL SHOPS have lower sales because everyone is using the on-line ordering Really ? Online sales is part of retail sales,as of now 9.10 % of it actually. Rising by about 1% from a year ago.  https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/retail-sales
Last edited by muddyriverdogz; 03/24/18 08:59 PM.
You only live once, so get over it!
Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
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Re: Now who will buy fur?
[Re: Tweed]
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03/24/18 09:08 PM
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muddyriverdogz
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There is the guy in the Trap She'd that prefers to trade for silver coin money. Me to.
You only live once, so get over it!
Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
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