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Water T stakes #6193338 03/20/18 10:01 AM 03/20/18 10:01 AM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,678 Wisconsin G Green Bay OP trapper
Green Bay OP trapper G Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,678 Wisconsin	HI all. I just located a pile of 3/8" rebar in 4 foot lengths and was thinking about making them into water T stakes for the bottom end of cable slides. I am going to weld them down about an inch so they could be hit with a hammer if needed. Any thoughts on this? Thanks. Brian Author of The Lure Hunter: A Guide to Finding Fishing Lures

Re: Water T stakes [Re: Green Bay] #6193360 03/20/18 10:20 AM 03/20/18 10:20 AM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 88 Alaska B Big finn trapper
Big finn trapper B Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 88 Alaska	I like to push them in with my foot,the little nob would be hard on my boot and foot.

Re: Water T stakes [Re: Big finn] #6193382 03/20/18 10:45 AM 03/20/18 10:45 AM
Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 793 Norborne MO B BBarnes trapper
BBarnes trapper B Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 793 Norborne MO	Originally Posted By: Big finn I like to push them in with my foot,the little nob would be hard on my boot and foot. X2, Hammering under water gets a man wet and cold. B

Re: Water T stakes [Re: Green Bay] #6193431 03/20/18 11:26 AM 03/20/18 11:26 AM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 8,296 Louisiana Aix sponsa trapper
Aix sponsa trapper Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 8,296 Louisiana	I hammer an annealed nut on the end and weld a 5 or 6 inch handle just below it. Works well for me. On shorter ones, I hammer a nut that’s a size or two larger. The gap lets me add snare support wire to have an all in one top drowner stake and snare support

Re: Water T stakes [Re: Green Bay] #6193519 03/20/18 12:15 PM 03/20/18 12:15 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,825 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,825 Wisconsin	Make a driver. I used a piece of 1 1/4 thin wall conduit about 4' long. I cut a slot In one end so It would go over the cross piece on the T stake. Then you can either just push the stake In or hammer It In. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: Water T stakes [Re: The Beav] #6193627 03/20/18 01:38 PM 03/20/18 01:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 8,296 Louisiana Aix sponsa trapper
Aix sponsa trapper Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 8,296 Louisiana	Originally Posted By: The Beav Make a driver. I used a piece of 1 1/4 thin wall conduit about 4' long. I cut a slot In one end so It would go over the cross piece on the T stake. Then you can either just push the stake In or hammer It In. Now that’s a good idea. I’ll be making one

Re: Water T stakes [Re: Green Bay] #6193636 03/20/18 01:45 PM 03/20/18 01:45 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,825 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,825 Wisconsin	For none T bar stakes Like 1/2" re bar just use the same conduit but just find a piece of cold roll that will fit Inside. Place It so It's about 4" or so up inside the pipe. Then either weld It In place or drill a few holes all the way through so you can bolt It In place. But If you have a welder you can just burn through the pipe and weld the slug In place. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: Water T stakes [Re: Green Bay] #6193638 03/20/18 01:46 PM 03/20/18 01:46 PM
Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 793 Norborne MO B BBarnes trapper
BBarnes trapper B Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 793 Norborne MO	Making a driver is a good idea, could be a very valuable tool. I just don't like carrying all that stuff up and down the bank. I use a Berkshire disposable stake at the end of the drowning cable. It's easier to take may stake setter up and down the bank instead of all the weight of rebar. JMO B

Re: Water T stakes [Re: The Beav] #6193780 03/20/18 04:15 PM 03/20/18 04:15 PM
Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,222 MN Y yukonal trapper
yukonal trapper Y Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,222 MN	Originally Posted By: The Beav Make a driver. I used a piece of 1 1/4 thin wall conduit about 4' long. I cut a slot In one end so It would go over the cross piece on the T stake. Then you can either just push the stake In or hammer It In. Another good idea from The Beav...I'll be making one. Thanks Beav. Oh, and to the OP...mine are 36" long T Stakes. I push them down to under the water, then stomp them in the rest of the way. Last edited by yukonal; 03/20/18 04:17 PM.

Re: Water T stakes [Re: Green Bay] #6194193 03/20/18 10:20 PM 03/20/18 10:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 654 Lakes Region Indiana L loosanarrow trapper
loosanarrow trapper L Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 654 Lakes Region Indiana	My question is how do you pull those t stakes under 3 or more feet of water. Driving is the easy part in my clay muck bottom. If I can’t pull them up by the drowner chain or cable, it can be a real predicament. I built an extended slide hammer puller, but I’m curious how you guys do it. But to the original post, I prefer true T stakes with the cross piece on top of the rod. I welded them myself, and I’m no pro welder, but I drive them with a 3 pound hammer and pull them with the slide hammer all the time, all year long, and so far not a single one has broken. Now tomorrow I will probably break 3... Last edited by loosanarrow; 03/20/18 11:09 PM. Website www.mgnbd.com

Re: Water T stakes [Re: Green Bay] #6194240 03/20/18 11:11 PM 03/20/18 11:11 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,825 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,825 Wisconsin	I have found In my type of bottom that T bar stakes or regular Re bar stakes come out pretty easy. Now wood Is a different game. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: Water T stakes [Re: loosanarrow] #6194242 03/20/18 11:13 PM 03/20/18 11:13 PM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 8,296 Louisiana Aix sponsa trapper
Aix sponsa trapper Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 8,296 Louisiana	Originally Posted By: loosanarrow My question is how do you pull those t stakes under 3 or more feet of water. Driving is the easy part in my clay muck bottom. If I can’t pull them up by the drowner chain or cable, it can be a real predicament. I built an extended slide hammer puller, but I’m curious how you guys do it. But to the original post, I prefer true T stakes with the cross piece on top of the rod. I welded them myself, and I’m no pro welder, but I drive them with a 3 pound hammer and pull them with the slide hammer all the time, all year long, and so far not a single one has broken. Now tomorrow I will probably break 3... I drive them until they’re only a couple inches underwater, and I use the T to twist and pull. I have no reason to drive them to the bottom. I hammer an annealed nut a foot from the bottom of the rebar. This keeps my drowner’s loop from riding up

Re: Water T stakes [Re: Green Bay] #6194248 03/20/18 11:23 PM 03/20/18 11:23 PM
Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 654 Lakes Region Indiana L loosanarrow trapper
loosanarrow trapper L Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 654 Lakes Region Indiana	What’s the total length on those wood duck? I can often use a 16 inch 1/2” rebar in the good bottoms, saving a lot of space and weight in the boat or weight carrying, assuming yours are longer like I imagine. My longest T-stakes are 48 inches. After that I go to wood stakes, and some of the wooden stakes never do come out! MOST of the time I can pull the T stakes by hand, but the ones that won’t pull need the slide hammer. Always trade-offs. Website www.mgnbd.com

Re: Water T stakes [Re: Green Bay] #6194389 03/21/18 06:59 AM 03/21/18 06:59 AM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 8,296 Louisiana Aix sponsa trapper
Aix sponsa trapper Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 8,296 Louisiana	Some are 48” some are 60”. The 60” usually get slipped in at an angle because there’s not enough water to cover it if I go vertically. I anchor 2 drowners per deep T stake at times

Re: Water T stakes [Re: Green Bay] #6194408 03/21/18 07:28 AM 03/21/18 07:28 AM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,678 Wisconsin G Green Bay OP trapper
Green Bay OP trapper G Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,678 Wisconsin	Thanks for all the responses - lots to think about. I guess I don't see the need to drive them underwater. We have a lot of clay bottoms here so in most places two feet in the ground, 1.5 feet in the water would still leave half a foot out of the water for easy pulling. Brian Author of The Lure Hunter: A Guide to Finding Fishing Lures

Re: Water T stakes [Re: Green Bay] #6200513 03/26/18 10:55 PM 03/26/18 10:55 PM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 318 MN Q Quartermastersir trapper
Quartermastersir trapper Q Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 318 MN	I made my driver out of a piece of 1/2 rebar and a welded a gizmo on end to fit over the nut or t-handle on the top of my rebar stakes. It is used as my walking stick to and from the sets and the height/length was set up for that purpose. For pulling take a vise grip remove the short adjusting screw and replace it with a two foot threaded reddy rod. Weld a T to the top of the rod for pulling out the stake. With this rig you can grab a t-stake or a stake with or without a nut welded on give it a twist and pull. Wet or dry sets.

Re: Water T stakes [Re: Green Bay] #6200715 03/27/18 08:51 AM 03/27/18 08:51 AM
Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 3,141 Michigan D Ditchdiver trapper
Ditchdiver trapper D Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 3,141 Michigan	^^^ Could you post a picture of this, Quartermaster? When life gets me down..... you know hunting/trapping season is closed.

Re: Water T stakes [Re: Green Bay] #6200735 03/27/18 09:12 AM 03/27/18 09:12 AM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 8,296 Louisiana Aix sponsa trapper
Aix sponsa trapper Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 8,296 Louisiana	Originally Posted By: Green Bay Thanks for all the responses - lots to think about. I guess I don't see the need to drive them underwater. We have a lot of clay bottoms here so in most places two feet in the ground, 1.5 feet in the water would still leave half a foot out of the water for easy pulling. Brian Yep, you’ll be good as long as you hammer an annealed nut close to the bottom to keep your loop from riding up if you’re planning on using them to anchor the deep end of a drowner. Having a few longer ones comes in handy when anchoring the deep end of beaver cables in deeper water

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