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Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: AJE] #6205118
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the 378 rats will be under ice is what i mean i dont think we should be forced to trap under ice you guys dont want to so why do we have to? and yeah yours should match the northern beaver end of april you can see what im saying if they are gonna have a spring season just have it be useful at least

Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: AJE] #6205119
04/01/18 05:11 PM
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if they are gonna mess with crap just keep the south alone give the north 2 weeks or whatever early start and have the end go till end of march in the south and end of april up north done none of this central crap

Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: AJE] #6205168
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March is the “best” month of the whole season for rattin. imho.....Central WI
October the worst.....followed by February.

PTB, (or other trappers) wanted to trickle this change in. And frankly so do I. Yes it is conservative but a tremendously positive advance. If it passes I hope you all get out a dip a toe...you may just be pleasantly surprised. When you wait for a boat you’re late.

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Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: AJE] #6205172
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And historically waiting to boat in Stillwater in the Winnebago zone ( March 15) put it this way you got a better chance of drawing a cat tag.

Point being I don’t need a boat just more time. March 3, here ain’t enough. It’s usually just starting to heat up. Ya, it could go longer but it’s a start and I’ll certainly take it. Huge gain for my style of trapping.

Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: handitrapper] #6205180
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Originally Posted By: handitrapper
Originally Posted By: The Beav
You can't stack them side by side If It blocks off the water source.


Only if it blocks off the entire navigable water. As long as they are not staggered, is not considered fencing. That is the explanation given by Olson.


I asked Shawn and he told me to ask my warden. Which to me means it’s subject to interpretation. So. Good luck. I backed off, never got ahead arguing with a CO.

Even this type of clarification would be helpful mad

Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: nimzy] #6205240
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Originally Posted By: nimzy
March is the “best” month of the whole season for rattin. imho.....Central WI
October the worst.....followed by February.

PTB, (or other trappers) wanted to trickle this change in. And frankly so do I. Yes it is conservative but a tremendously positive advance. If it passes I hope you all get out a dip a toe...you may just be pleasantly surprised. When you wait for a boat you’re late.


You go boy! I was happy for you guys when I saw a little later finish.

I am a little confused about the boat statement. I thought those ice skipping, water ripping Carstens poke boats were key for late trapping with green poles?

Anyway, I will continue to prepare for our time.

How many rats this year Nimzy?

Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: AJE] #6205289
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It’s March the thaw. March is unpredictable and has a lot of ice, some good some not. Mostly it has awesome rats. The most sensible month for the resource in terms of value. It also offers some excellent opportunities, for those willing to explore. Some of my best catches come in March. Exploit the resource, it’s the duty of a fur trapper. My opinion, for what it’s worth.

This year I started in mid November. Caught about 4K with a helper under ice. The market and I are maturing at different rates lol.

Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: CableAble] #6205318
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Originally Posted By: CableAble
the 378 rats will be under ice is what i mean i dont think we should be forced to trap under ice you guys dont want to so why do we have to? and yeah yours should match the northern beaver end of april you can see what im saying if they are gonna have a spring season just have it be useful at least


Believe me I totally understand but I’ve heard no talk of extension without delaying the start. Leave the start alone and just end it with beaver.


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Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: AJE] #6205322
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If the water source Is 12" wide you can't place 2 6X6 colony traps side by side. Because that Is considered guiding. And It dosen't matter If there Is 12" of water flowing over those traps.


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Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: nimzy] #6205323
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Originally Posted By: nimzy
And historically waiting to boat in Stillwater in the Winnebago zone ( March 15) put it this way you got a better chance of drawing a cat tag.

Point being I don’t need a boat just more time. March 3, here ain’t enough. It’s usually just starting to heat up. Ya, it could go longer but it’s a start and I’ll certainly take it. Huge gain for my style of trapping.


Yeah but how many get to trap in the Horicon anyway?

I agree, we all need more time for the best rats, February onward.


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Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: AJE] #6205338
04/01/18 09:47 PM
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i am in agreement will you nimzy its a step in the right direction but why cant we just get what we want? just kinda silly to lose time off the top end to not really gain that much on the back end but oh well i guess ill have to get a horicon spot next season

Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: Kelly] #6205339
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Originally Posted By: Kelly


Yeah but how many get to trap in the Horicon anyway?
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On the refuge the season doesn’t start till December 1. How many would want to? From most of testimony above it would be a exercise in futility.

Horicon is just another cattail marsh, only bigger and more regulated.

Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: AJE] #6205340
04/01/18 09:48 PM
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There are only two people who are posting on this thread who can't trap the horicon. Me and Jeremy.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: AJE] #6205341
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Chris, I want to. Do you know any one who would teach me how?


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Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: AJE] #6205342
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glad to hear you had a good season to there chris!! was wondering

Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: AJE] #6205350
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CA fellas in the south already were asking for a later start date. Your peers wanted it without change to the back. As I stated earlier I started November 15 or 16 this year, so opening day means nothing to me. Well full disclosure, that 3 of 15 years when rats are $8 or higher I did start on the opener

Kelly the CC seems sympathetic to the early freeze north of 64 and implemented an earlier start. I believe they also wrote April 15 close which IMO has greater opportunity then March 15 and 22 has in the south and central. I only hope more trappers take advantage of the possibilities to make even more informed decisions in the future.

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Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: Steven 49er] #6205351
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Originally Posted By: Steven 49er
Chris, I want to. Do you know any one who would teach me how?


Yea but I think it’s almost as expensive as a polar bear hunt lol

Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: The Beav] #6205372
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
If the water source Is 12" wide you can't place 2 6X6 colony traps side by side. Because that Is considered guiding. And It dosen't matter If there Is 12" of water flowing over those traps.


That would be true. But honestly, how many 12” wide streams do you trap? Place your colony in the likely travel route with a BG alongside it for the occasional stray.

Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: nimzy] #6205408
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Originally Posted By: nimzy
Originally Posted By: Steven 49er
Chris, I want to. Do you know any one who would teach me how?


Yea but I think it’s almost as expensive as a polar bear hunt lol


Or an all inclusive late season ice fishing trip.


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Re: Wi Conservation Congress [Re: handitrapper] #6205413
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Originally Posted By: handitrapper
Originally Posted By: The Beav
If the water source Is 12" wide you can't place 2 6X6 colony traps side by side. Because that Is considered guiding. And It dosen't matter If there Is 12" of water flowing over those traps.


That would be true. But honestly, how many 12” wide streams do you trap? Place your colony in the likely travel route with a BG alongside it for the occasional stray.


Well what about all the pinch points on even wider streams. I can show you all kinds of road side ditches that are choked with weeds and there are tons of narrow pinch points.


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